New TLS Front Page

Pixel

The Pixie King
Do you have a mockup of the layout? Sorry if its been posted, i havent really been paying much attention :P
 

Fangu

Great Old One
Yop, this whole thing is WP, what do you expect :monster:
I'll see if I can find something tricky and non-Wordpressly for you. What I need you for the most is to approve of the work and know how you can roll back if you experience major fail. Which you shouldn't as I've taken every precaution in the book but w/e.

Also, can we skip major wooo graphic redisigns or whatever until the first version of the FP is launched? I've been going with Flint's design and it looks perfectly cool to me. Thanks.
 

Flintlock

Pro Adventurer
Also, can we skip major wooo graphic redisigns or whatever until the first version of the FP is launched? I've been going with Flint's design and it looks perfectly cool to me. Thanks.
This is a salient point, one which I didn't think needed repeating, but perhaps I was wrong. My draft wasn't "look how awesome I can make a website look", just "it shouldn't be too hard to implement these changes in a reasonably short period of time and improve on what we currently have".
 

Fangu

Great Old One
This is a salient point, one which I didn't think needed repeating, but perhaps I was wrong. My draft wasn't "look how awesome I can make a website look", just "it shouldn't be too hard to implement these changes in a reasonably short period of time and improve on what we currently have".
I'm not sure if that comment was directed at me, I'm guessing not.

It's like Flint says, we've had a dialogue on IRC and on Skype where Flint has made minor corrections to the basic functional layout I'd already done - just making it look better; sort of accessorizing it. The changes consists of very few graphics. What I like about his suggestions is that he takes web functionality into the picture as well, suggesting how we can use categories and 'related articles', which isn't a designer job, but it still makes the page look a lot better. So the initial layout with the previews was my idea, and it was based on existing graphics to make the redesign job a lot smaller than it would be if we were to redesign the layout.

Yop your comment is actually kinda confusing to me. Because we who were into this project when I started working on it early this year debated whether we should do something with the layouts, but decided not to as Pixel weren't around and didn't seem to be returning. You seemed to be fine with it at this point and you haven't expressed any wish to redo the design. What I'm guessing is you're just throwing in random comments to seem interested, combined with a gratitude to see Pixel back in here, both because he's a cool dude and also because he is an awesome designer and has done a lot for this site. But please pay some respect to the people who have been working on this, mmkay :monster:
 

Pixel

The Pixie King
Just to be clear, i wont be working on any design stuff anymore. You guys have it covered, and it looks pretty nice
 

Cthulhu

Administrator
AKA
Yop
Okay, :monster:. My main concerns at this time, which should be approved upon before we make the switch online, are:

1. Site functionality - all content should remain available.
2. Look and feel - the visitors shouldn't experience the restructuring / design as a step back.

Effort up until now aside, at the moment it still needs work. My list based on the current status on fhtagn:

* Nav & search bar styling and content (I like the dropdown; could be enhanced perhaps with fancy CSS3 thingies like subtle animations and drop shadow for contrast)
* 'Hero Unit' (main content); horizontal sizing (there's unused space to the right of it), typography, font colors, and as indicated, image resizing - although tbh we could just say 'upload a x by y image for that - and the 'related articles' look a bit out of place.
* Similar with the three main stories; need to get equal-sized images, and again with the typography.
* Stuff below that needs some styling too
* Content for the 'doormat' and footer

Sorry if all this is on some list somewhere or is either arbitrary or a dick move; honestly, this feels like it's the first time I'm actually uttering an opinon on the new front page, :monster:
 

Fangu

Great Old One
+1 on all of that.

I'm especially glad you're bringing up point 1., because it's very crucial but is a thing that typically gets lost in all the "no this needs to be 1px more to the left" discussions.

So yeah still a few miles left on this race.

Also regarding 'upload a x by y image' - MAJOR FACEPALM I didn't even think of that :monster: Maybe because it's a very 'manual' solution and I want to be 1337 and make it dynamic and stuff.
 

Pixel

The Pixie King
Heres the banner without the bottom part cut off. It should fit the dimensions you have in the new layout. Wasnt sure if you wanted the menu attached to the banner or as a seperate image

lifestreambanner7copy.gif
 

Cthulhu

Administrator
AKA
Yop
Yeah, I too would like a dynamic solution of sorts, but at the same time I prefer awesome solutions; in this case, I'd go for something like the 'scissors' plugin we used to have, an in-browser cropping and resizing tool, but in that case fixed to a certain size/ratio. Should probably look out for an alternative of that one.

@Pixel: Appreciated, :monster:. If I have any say in it, the menu will be completely done in HTML, i.e. no navigation in the image itself anymore - it's not very semantically correct etc. The new dropdown menu is a definite (and expandable) improvement over the existing navigation structure.

I think I can do some stuff on it this weekend. I suck at layout and colors and stuff though, so pl0x give me hints and suggestions on how to make the menu look, :monster:. I'm not terribly fond of the font color in the current new front page (it looks a bit... hm. Different? :monster: ), but it's probably a small change.
 

Flintlock

Pro Adventurer
Yop: see my menu draft a few pages back for colour ideas. I'm not going to be around mu h this weekend, but I can give you the exact codes if needs be.

I'm not saying that we have to do it my way, but nobody seems to have objected thus far!
 

Flintlock

Pro Adventurer
Haha, didn't spot that one. The C key is right next to the space bar! I'll leave it in, now that you've brought it up.
 

Cthulhu

Administrator
AKA
Yop
I can get color codes if I got the images, there's fancy software out there nowadays that allows you to sample a color from an image and determine the hex codes, :monster:. I'll take a look at it. Thank you mu cly.

And if you want to become a manager, just shout the loudest when it comes to making decisions.

(work rant: I keep telling people 'you should do this' or 'That's not going to work', only to have things blow up despite my advice. I should say 'I told you so' more often, or shout louder)
 

Flintlock

Pro Adventurer
I can get color codes if I got the images, there's fancy software out there nowadays that allows you to sample a color from an image and determine the hex codes, :monster:
Sarcasm noted. Of course I'm aware of that, but I just thought I'd pre-empt any CBA-ness, which you seem more than a little prone to...
 

Kain Strife

Some Kind of Animator
I approve of the ongoing efforts of this project. I would have input, but I'd be more artistic input, and my style doesn't exactly have anything to add. I like the new layout and am anxious for it.
:megamon:
 

Kain Strife

Some Kind of Animator
Well, I dunno. I love the banner, but I've always felt it made the colors of the site very dark. I'm not sure if it should be changed, it is a very nice theme. Just a thought that was always there. Not sure if anyone else feels that way. I think I'll preview the Site again and see if I have any feedback that could be helpful.
 

Cthulhu

Administrator
AKA
Yop
I don't like dark layouts in principle, but everyone insisted on this layout and I've grown attached to it, :monster:.
 

Kain Strife

Some Kind of Animator
The banner was the first thing that struck me about this site. It's gorgeous.

Well, yeah. It is great. It's just that it makes everything else dark and murky by being the same theme. I mean, it's fine. That's just the downside out of it is all.
 

Fangu

Great Old One
Yeah, don't get me wrong, it can be light and gorgeous instead of dark and gorgeous. I just felt like paying respect I guess when Yop wrote 'attached to'. I guess I feel sorta attached to the header. But that doesn't mean it has to stay forever :)
 
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