Okay I'm now playing FFVI

[Danseru-kun]

Sabin's quest is looong, just saying
Gau is cute and handy
Now I'm doing Terra's quest I got lost in the caves I keep on returning to the moogle room I can't find my way into the Esper chamber but I'll try my best

 

[Cat Rage Room]

I can see your point because you can also argue said point about FFVIII, levelling is nowhere near as important as setting your characters up with the correct junctions.

But still, sometimes I'd have good equipment and I'd still not find it worked enough, or maybe I just hadn't done enough, either way for me personally I feel that grinding a few levels doesn't hurt.

As for people who've beaten the game on a low level well good for them, I imagine that took a good few run throughs, knowing the game inside out and how to exploit certain things to make it work or several attempts in battles but that's not what I'm talking about.

I'm not sure if I mentioned this before but I've never beaten FFVI before so I'm talking about after a couple of playthroughs where I've attempted the game and this being my first one to fully complete the game where I'm taking my time with it and I still thought levelling was important, I've known that the Espers were important for their stat boosts rather than what they actually do, I don't think I've really used my Espers apart from stat boost this run through but I still wouldn't have known that equipment plays a major part in fact there's times I haven't noticed it.

The thing I did notice that doing a little bit of extra levelling along the Lethe River and a few later parts of the games before getting the esper stat boost did help me out a bit in parts where I'd struggled before that didn't necessarily have anything to do with what equipment I had. I'm just saying for a more inexperienced player it's not something I would take as much notice of as to someone who is highly familiar with the game.

Case in point again, FFVIII I had no idea my first couple of run throughs just how important Junctioning stats was, it was only after my maybe 4th/5th proper playthrough I completely mastered it and would argue for it the way you're arguing for FFVI.

Oh no, I'm not denouncing leveling or saying those that do grind are like, scum or anything. Nor that gaining a few levels hurts.

I just want to emphasize that in FFVI, its especially notable for not having to grind at all. It's just not necessary, and I feel strongly about that because grinding usually tops the list of "least fun things to do in an RPG". Not universally so, but I don't feel good about recommending something that most people see as a chore when you get stuck. FFVI's boss battles are always able to be conquered through equipment and strategy, and that's what I want to emphasize.

As far as the FFVIII example goes, that's a unique case where grinding should be avoided; enemies gain levels along with you, and their strength curve far outstrips the player, at higher levels enemies outclass you quite a bit.

 

[Sprites]

Nah I know you weren't I was just giving you my opinion on what works for me, to each their own, though, i'll defintely take notice of what you've said for future playthroughs of the game

@Danseru: Have you gone back to speak to Arvis yet, you won't be able to reach that part with the esper until you do

 

[Danseru-kun]

^

Ahhh... no I haven't gonna talk to him now. Thankies

 

[T@ctic]

im starting ffi NES. the only walkthrough is on youtube. : D

 

[Danseru-kun]

BTW the reason I haven't posted in a while is that I'm stuck at fighting with Kefka's troops, there's so many of them I keep on dying.

 

[Farron]

BTW the reason I haven't posted in a while is that I'm stuck at fighting with Kefka's troops, there's so many of them I keep on dying.

During Sabin's story ?

 

[Roger]

At Narche? Just put two groups right up Banon's position, then take a four-man team (I'd recommend Celes, Edgar, Sabin and Locke) to attack Kefka.

 

[Danseru-kun]

Yes I Narshe... ok I'll try your tip. It was frustrating for me hahaha.

 

[Roger]

Use Runic with Kefka (which is why I recommend against Terra) and he's a puss.

 

[Danseru-kun]

I died again I surrounded Banon with two groups but for some weird reasons they troops still reached him. Then I attacked Kefka directly but then before I can initiate a battle my Edgar-Cyan group died and I failed.

THIS IS REALLY FRUSTRATING

 

[Ghost X]

If it is the battle I think you're talking about, indeed it was hell frustrating. I died countless times. Not sure of the tactics I used, which inevitably allowed me to get through in the end, but there is always the internets.

 

[Farron]

I usually split up Celes and Terra and have them be the healers and split up the Figaro brothers and have them be the fighters. The others are just extra attackers, extra healers.

But if you die you can always use this as a chance to level up because I think your EXP points don't go away when you die with this game.

 

[Ⓐaron]

But if you die you can always use this as a chance to level up because I think your EXP points don't go away when you die with this game.

They don't, but you do lose any stat bonuses you get at level-up.

As for strategy, I recommend just surrounding Banon with all three groups of characters and waiting for the soldiers to approach.

 

[Sprites]

Hmm, I usually surround Banon with two smaller groups and then do my best to take the quickest path to Kefka, that usually works for me. I usually take a group of Edgar, Terra and Sabin for that, have a group with Celes and Locke then one with Gau and Cyan staying around Banon. Speaking of Banon, I was always quite excited to have a surname that's a FF character's first name, in my case I have an extra 'n' in the Banon

 

[Danseru-kun]

I finished the Narshe battle, my teams protecting Banon were Terra-Locke, Edgar-Cyan then Terra-Gau-Sabin attacked Kefka head-on. It wasn't really a difficult battle if you used that tactic. Trying to finish all the soldiers kills you and that's what I had been doing so I kept on dying.

My Terra search team was Locke-Celes-Cyan and I was able to cross the mountain and go the west towns. Although I didn't like Cyan at first, he' my hardest hitter right now and I equipped him with the double hand relic (forgot the name.) I went to Zozo and it's incredibly frustrating. The gypsy wiped me with magic at first but then I figured out she's a glass canon. Then after the painful trek to the top of the tower, dark-skinned guy who said he doesn't want to fight killed my team. He kept on throwing Kotetsus and DAMMIT! I've never been so frustrated since I played FFT.

I'll continue tomorrow once I cooled down. No I'm not using any FAQs hahaha, I challenged myself. OOoh also Thief Gloves are awesome :>

 

[Danseru-kun]

Defeated the kung-fu guy, found Terra and the Espers. My team for attacking the facility is Edgar-Locke-Celes-Cyan.

 

[Ⓐaron]

I would recommend changing to Edgar and Sabin because there is a pretty good piece of character development you get in that segment only if you have both of them in your party.

 

[Farron]

I would recommend changing to Edgar and Sabin because there is a pretty good piece of character development you get in that segment only if you have both of them in your party.

Yeah. Try and head back to Figaro Castle. I think from memory you head into the throne room ? Or maybe you have to stay the night in the spare room inn ? Something like that. I know, I fail.

 

[Danseru-kun]

I followed your advice and put Edgar & Sabin in my team, yeah I got the flashback at Figaro castle.

Can I just say that THE OPERA WAS AMAZING! XD It was really dramatic yet fun at the same time. At first I failed to go to the balcony with the bouquet so I ended up repeating, in my next try I wasn't able to wear any Sprint Shoes so I ran out of time, and at the third Ultros FTW.

*Listenes to live versions of Opera again now with full experience*

 

[Ⓐaron]

Yeah, the opera is one of the finest sequences in not just the Final Fantasy series, but any video game ever. So well done.

 

[Danseru-kun]

Okay 12 hours into the game


-Raided the Magitek factory, DAMN Celes' magic is a killer! Edgar's Drill is also very helpful. The factory gives me nostalgic feelings of Dissidia, I love how challenging it was
-I'm not very fond of Setzer's slots, it's just me I don't like random things
-Locke is now my secondary healer after Celes, he does well with a beret now he has loads of MP and he's now my fastest character
- Aww I'll miss Celes for now...
- Okay Esper flashback, the whole War of the Magi is similar to Guilty Gear and LOL Dizzy like Terra
- My team for getting inside the Esper cave is Terra-Locke-Edgar-Setzer, and I kinda regret my last choice but I gotta give him the chance
- The monsters are difficult to kill...
- Now on the lava room with switching floors

 

[Ⓐaron]

There is a possible exploit with Setzer's slots (specifically, Joker Doom) that can make him ridiculously powerful, but it requires split-second timing and probably isn't possible without emulator slowdown. If you watch the TAS of the game they abuse the hell out of Joker Doom.

The music at the Magitek factory is awesome. Same with the Esper cave.

 

[Danseru-kun]

Gawd Terra with Genji Gloves + Hero Ring + Atma Weapon + Thunder Blade = WIN

For Setzer, I often get the chocobo and the diamond slots right.

 

[Ⓐaron]

The Atma Weapon will only continue getting more badass as you progress through the game. It grows exponentially in power with your characters. If memory serves, you can hit max damage with the Atma Weapon before you can hit max damage with any other weapon in the game, and it also penetrates physical defences which is a huge advantage over any other weapon. The only problem is that if you don't keep your character's HP up, it becomes less powerful.

Wait until you get the Master's Scroll (Offering in some versions of the game). Combined with the Genji Glove it just becomes ridiculous. A character gets eight attacks.

Terra can easily become the most powerful character in the game, in no small part because her equipment is better than the equipment of all but a handful of other characters (mainly Locke, Edgar, and Celes, who can all use similar equipment). Combine all that with Morph, and, well...