Nanaki Skywalker
Kate Lord of the Sith
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Whoever thought the suicide battery was a good idea at all should be stripped of all educational degrees.
Report: PS3, Vita, And PSP Stores To Be Permanently Closed In A Few Months
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Strangelove
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i miss the pre-internet consoles tbh. where you had no dlc and if you wanted to put out additional content you had to make it at least feel substantial to justify it since it had to be a physical release.
maybe this is because i am trying to think of all the ps3/vita/psp stuff i want to try in the future, but can't use the website now to look it up because they removed that functionality months ago. so i have to
on the shelf across from me i have the 'digital contents collection' for ffxiii-2, which was a copy of the game with an extra disc including most of the dlc (collaboration dlc and some items from preorders/merchandise bonuses are missing) and updates/patches. i wish more games would have done that, just a separate disc with all the dlc on it. i know you get that sometimes with goty editions but not every game gets those, and i don't think they even include everything all the time.
that is going to add more manufacturing costs and i am not going to get that for games that came out over 10 years ago now, but i can still be grumpy about it. i have started buying more digital games lately but only if they're substantially discounted, so it tends to be older stuff. but are manufacturing costs a big issue for companies when digital copies tend to cost the same price as the physical releases. maybe i'd be more forgiving if you were selling for the same price but the digital one included extra stuff as an incentive, but when they do that they call it a 'digital deluxe edition' and charge you an extra 30% or something.
plus preserving stuff. i mean i don’t expect the higher ups to care about games as more than a way to make money when they’re like “but how can we make this a live service and have loot boxes” for everything, but surely someone must want to see it live on
idk man i am just feeling sad rn
maybe this is because i am trying to think of all the ps3/vita/psp stuff i want to try in the future, but can't use the website now to look it up because they removed that functionality months ago. so i have to
on the shelf across from me i have the 'digital contents collection' for ffxiii-2, which was a copy of the game with an extra disc including most of the dlc (collaboration dlc and some items from preorders/merchandise bonuses are missing) and updates/patches. i wish more games would have done that, just a separate disc with all the dlc on it. i know you get that sometimes with goty editions but not every game gets those, and i don't think they even include everything all the time.
that is going to add more manufacturing costs and i am not going to get that for games that came out over 10 years ago now, but i can still be grumpy about it. i have started buying more digital games lately but only if they're substantially discounted, so it tends to be older stuff. but are manufacturing costs a big issue for companies when digital copies tend to cost the same price as the physical releases. maybe i'd be more forgiving if you were selling for the same price but the digital one included extra stuff as an incentive, but when they do that they call it a 'digital deluxe edition' and charge you an extra 30% or something.
plus preserving stuff. i mean i don’t expect the higher ups to care about games as more than a way to make money when they’re like “but how can we make this a live service and have loot boxes” for everything, but surely someone must want to see it live on
idk man i am just feeling sad rn
Lulcielid
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Meet The Developers Who Are About To Lose Their PS Vita Games Forever.
A great look at how indie devs get hurt the most by this decisions.
A great look at how indie devs get hurt the most by this decisions.
Lulcielid
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- Lulcy
Makoeyes987
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It's times like these, that if I had been exposed to a large quantity of gamma radiation, I'm positive I'd turn green and destroy my surroundings in a fit of primal super-human rage 
Strangelove
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- hitoshura
Lulcielid
Eyes of the Lord
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Strangelove
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ForceStealer
Double Growth
Sounds like that would be an extremely easy fix on Sony's end. As the article says, they could reduce the number of system functions tied to the check, but even more simply, couldn't they just make it so the system can confirm the date/time with ANY old server? Yes that would still require an internet connection, but only once when you change the battery, right?
Lulcielid
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- Lulcy
ForceStealer
Double Growth
lol, well I hope they enjoyed their artificial sales bump.
Lulcielid
Eyes of the Lord
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- Lulcy
While good news, this is only delaying a bussiness inevitability.
Makoeyes987
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- Smooth Criminal
I mean, yeah it's "inevitable" but I think it's quite a consumer/player victory that Sony fucking backed down and decided not to hakai the PS3 and Vita store.
If this were Nintendo they'd have gleefully flipped the kill switch and then sent a commemorative tweet about it, thanking the players for their support.
If this were Nintendo they'd have gleefully flipped the kill switch and then sent a commemorative tweet about it, thanking the players for their support.
Nanaki Skywalker
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This also encourages people like me to go down the emulation rabbit hole...and keep in mind, I have 8 gaming consoles (plus 3 of the officially released "Classic/Minis" with built in games) dating back 31 years. I have a 31 year old NES that still works, so that should tell you how much playing older games means to me.
Nanaki Skywalker
Kate Lord of the Sith
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- Tarkatan Trash
I'm already considering a Raspberry Pi, mainly for arcade games, and in a travel situation (that way I don't have to take 3 or 4 different consoles with me).Everyone should be emulating anyway. Emulation is a rich digital culture, as is as owning the legitimate hardware.
Also, this is incredibly good news. Seems like the PSP’s not getting spared, though
Roundhouse
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I don't emulate -- at least, not in the shady sense. I don't want to get into trouble just for trying to play a game that I can't conveniently buy, sigh. This means that I still haven't played stuff like Xenogears, Chrono Cross, and Mother 3, as none of them are available in Europe, ugh.
ForceStealer
Double Growth
Video game consumers have made it abundantly clear that they are happy to buy old games if you provide them conveniently. If publishers still don't want to take advantage of that, I think they cede their right to moral indignation.
Nanaki Skywalker
Kate Lord of the Sith
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- Tarkatan Trash
If you know how to dump your own roms, publishers can't do jack shit to you. Plus, it's already to the point where you can play roms on original hardware (flash cartridges such as the Everdrive line for cartridge based consoles, optical drive emulator mods for disc based consoles).
As for Chrono Cross, I highly suggest you play that game on a CRT, as that game is the namesake for a problem on modern displays associated with 240p gameplay and 480i menus where there's a noticable sync delay when the game changes resolutions (this is an inherent problem with modern displays themselves), though I think the upcoming Retrotink 5x (and maybe a few other retro gaming scalers) may have found a solution to this.
Tfw when, out of those three consoles, you only own a PSP. 
Exactly. I feel like there's a good amount of people who will buy old games if given the opportunity, but if a game has seen no modern release (or Western release at all) and is only available for a hefty price used then, yeah, people are going to look for other options. Everyone has a different point where they draw the line morally, but I'm personally not going to fault someone for emulating, like, Baten Kaitos Origins (only ever released on the Gamecube, was never released in Europe) even if they didn't rip the disc themselves. Like, if Nintendo wanted to make money off of Mother 3 in the West they'd release it, but begging for an official release is a meme now and buying an official cart legally at this point isn't getting money to anyone who worked on the game, so I feel like Nintendo can't really complain (figuratively speaking, obviously they could take legal action if they wanted to I suppose lol) about what people do.
Exactly. I feel like there's a good amount of people who will buy old games if given the opportunity, but if a game has seen no modern release (or Western release at all) and is only available for a hefty price used then, yeah, people are going to look for other options. Everyone has a different point where they draw the line morally, but I'm personally not going to fault someone for emulating, like, Baten Kaitos Origins (only ever released on the Gamecube, was never released in Europe) even if they didn't rip the disc themselves. Like, if Nintendo wanted to make money off of Mother 3 in the West they'd release it, but begging for an official release is a meme now and buying an official cart legally at this point isn't getting money to anyone who worked on the game, so I feel like Nintendo can't really complain (figuratively speaking, obviously they could take legal action if they wanted to I suppose lol) about what people do.
Prism
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For some reason, I don’t view emulation as just piracy. Obviously, it is piracy, but it feels like it’s more than that. The novelty of running console software on your PC, the excitement of new developments as the emulators get better, the feeling of having a whole console’s library at your fingertips, the charming UI and design the emulators have, the culture related to making ROM hacks and preservation, etc - it all amounts to something that’s really fun.
A lot of the times, the games that people emulate are games that you can only purchase used copies of anyway, so it’s not like the money is going to the developers. And even if they get a proper rerelease, that rerelease might end up helping the publisher more than the developers themselves.
A lot of the times, the games that people emulate are games that you can only purchase used copies of anyway, so it’s not like the money is going to the developers. And even if they get a proper rerelease, that rerelease might end up helping the publisher more than the developers themselves.
Strangelove
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- hitoshura
oh thank you god