Should AC have been a game and DoC an Movie?

[Ryushikaze]

The problem Cthulu, is that PS2 is a dying system and the PS3 and 360 aren't quite settled in their dominance factor (or rather, the dominant for one country is not for another for their two biggest markets and barring a dual release which I don't think they wanted to do at the time they'd be hosing themselves either way) while the PSP IS doing strong enough to warrant a major release for the system, and is also cheap enough that it might be considered 'worth it' for fans not already owning the system.

DoC got developed while the PS2 was still king of the castle, so to speak.

 

[Max Payne]

Ps2's not really dying imo. It's still pretty popular, and STILL selling way too many systems for it's current status. Hell some people are still porting their games to it.

 

[Restless]

Yeah, the PS2 really is doing too well, for what it is. Now that it's cheaper and more people can afford it compared to the PS3 (and that there are still a wide variety of games available for it), people have been buying it.

Personally, I don't think AC would have made a good game. It didn't have the amount of substance needed to make a longer game. At the time, the PS2 was what DoC was good for, and I think it's fine being on that console. However, I wish that more time and effort had been put into it. More characer depth, better gameplay, more thought put into the storyline. It would've been a much better game

While still selling well, the PS2 will eventually fade away, and PS3 will be left. CC helped boost sales for the PSP, and the PSP already had a pretty solid market. It had no real competition, as all the other handheld gaming consoles were either totally different or old.

 

[Cthulhu]

There's still a large market in PS2's, and if not for us rich people, there'd sure be a market in developing countries for the console. Although the PS3's sales did exceed that of the PS2 a while ago.

@ topic though, I'm very well able to imagine an action/platform/fighting-style, third-person game made out of AC. Although not exactly AC itself, but more like a movie game thereof - only then done right.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Let me be clear, my explanation was an attempt to explain the logic behind their placing the systems where they did. "Dying system" just means "Oh look, we've got a new system, the old system is entirely unworthy of our new software now" in dev-speak. I don't really think the PS2 is dying (though it will do so eventually), but it is largely getting disfavored by developers, like the PS1 did after the PS2 came out, even though there were new games for the PS1 later.

 

[Masamune]

[quote author=Blazing782 link=topic=566.msg23638#msg23638 date=1235673579]
I think AC was exactly where it needed to be, and that's in the form of a movie. There is simply not enough going on for a full game.[/quote]

I think had AC been a full-blown game, they would have included some of the novellas in the form of flashbacks or whatever to add more content.

 

[Mitch Connor]

I dunno, i just don't think that a story that spans just about 2 days is enough for a full compilation game

 

[Cthulhu]

[quote author=Blazing782 link=topic=566.msg25414#msg25414 date=1235965020]
I dunno, i just don't think that a story that spans just about 2 days is enough for a full compilation game
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Majora's Mask spans just three, but it's an epic game and whatnot, . I don't think the 'timeline' of a game should determine whether it'd be a 'full' game. And besides, lengthening it shouldn't be too difficult.

 

[Makoeyes987]

But Majora's Mask required time to be rewound several times in order to accomplish all of the massive adventuring and plot development in the story.

I doubt a game version of AC would feature such a concept. It'd be very linear and short.

Like Dirge of Cerberus.

 

[Cthulhu]

Linearity isn't a bad thing per sé, as in, almost all shooters work. They're also short, often less than ten hours, but very intense and awesome and whatnot.

 

[Max Payne]

Almost all FFs are very linear, how is that an issue?

As long as it was full of bass set pieces, great action, good system design, I'd be cool.

 

[Makoeyes987]

No, linearity isn't a problem but it's also the length and breadth of the story. There's not much divergence at all from the plot that's already accelerated and short as is.

The whole story is essentially just a build up to the confrontation with Sephiroth. I mean you really wouldn't get that much of a quest out of it.

 

[Max Payne]

[quote author=Makoeyes987 link=topic=566.msg25808#msg25808 date=1236027842]
No, linearity isn't a problem but it's also the length and breadth of the story. There's not much divergence at all from the plot that's already accelerated and short as is.

The whole story is essentially just a build up to the confrontation with Sephiroth. I mean you really wouldn't get that much of a quest out of it.
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Well they could easily extend the plot so it would branch out on several fronts, make it a worldwide chase for the SHM or some shit.

But AC as it is wouldn't work as a game.

 

[Cthulhu]

Wolfenstein was essentially just a build up to the confrontation with Hitler, your point being? DMC's a buildup to some uber final boss, and so are all other games in the kinda game I think would be awesome for AC.

In fact, there's a lot of potential for such a game - they could add a load of stuff on the side, switch characters (and with that the complete gameplay) around, add loads of replay value, RPG system, collectibles, make Edge and (maybe) parts of Midgar fully open and explorable, etc. There's plenty of stuff that I'm sure they could add to the story without breaking it apart too much to increase gameplay to over twenty hours, and improve replay value so people could play it for dozens more.

I think, anyways. They could also make it an arcade fighting game like Dissidia, for great justice.

 

[Max Payne]

Or make it a 4 player co-op action game

 

[Makoeyes987]

Well yeah, I'm sure they could do anything if they added more to the original story.

I was speaking of it as is.

 

[Max Payne]

[quote author=Makoeyes987 link=topic=566.msg25837#msg25837 date=1236029011]
Well yeah, I'm sure they could do anything if they added more to the original story.

I was speaking of it as is.
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Well I think it goes without saying that a strict port of AC to game would be utter stupid wrapped in a retard tortilla.

 

[Cthulhu]

Or not, depending on how long they'd stretch the fights, . They could introduce bullet time, fgj.

 

[Anzu Mazaki]

I can definitely see DoC beinga movie; and a good one at that but to make AC a game is a little harder to say, because since it is already a movie, I feel like its details wouldn't work out if it were a game. Mostly because its not quite complex enough imo.

 

[Suzaku]

Exclusively Japanese mobile game, IMO.

 

[Max Payne]

I hate you.

 

[Geostigma]

CC on PS2 is a great idea and is still possible , i mean they took the time to port KH:Chain of memories to the PS2 and revamped its battle system i dont see why they cant do that for CC.

AC as a game wouldnt work , you can pretend that its vague plot was uber deep all you want mister op but it just wasnt. I mean you got it figured out in one viewing and even without the ultimania everyone was sure of what was going on. AC as a game would remind me of FFx-2 lots filler and not enough plot

 

[OWA-2]

I think they should have "merged" the two stories together. The Tsviets, the SHM, and Avalanche, all in a single and epic game.
And for the grand finale, they could make Sephiroth use the J-cells to return from dead, while being empowered by Omega.

 

[Max Payne]

I had the idea of them including a playable version of AC at the end of the FF7 remake, so it wouldn't have such a shit ending like it did in the original.

 

[Dark and Divine]

Kinda like FFII's Soul of Rebirth? If they wanted to make AC a game, that wouldn't be a bad idea at all.