Star Wa- I mean FFXII Love discussion Thread

Did you notice that she's pinching his hand? As in, trying to lift it off her?

LicoriceAllsorts wrote:
But in her mind nobody will ever compare to Rassler, and the longer he's dead, the more she'll idealise him.

Dacon wrote:
You say that like it's gonna be changing any time soon.

With Square Enix, you never know.

Also, Balthier is hot. He's also the only character I know of with an English accent.
 

Arianna

Holy, Personified
AKA
Katie; Seta.
Did you notice that she's pinching his hand? As in, trying to lift it off her?

With Square Enix, you never know.

Also, Balthier is hot. He's also the only character I know of with an English accent.

It looks like he's trying to grope her.
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
Balthier helped me get through Fenris. Sometimes I pretended that rather than a mopey elf, he was actually a bad ass sky pirate that took what he wanted with style, had a line for every occasion, oozed charm, and dealt with his issues without smothering himself in lengthy expository angst.

It kinda helped. I kept imagining Fenris as a pirate and it made me feel better.
 

The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
AKA
TresDias
I would be very surprised if Balthier & Fran hadn't rocked the casbah.

He had to find out what her feelings on being tied up are somehow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5StTUaHV4LI#t=2m

That says, pretty much nothing at all.

He's a decent character and all, but I don't see anything that establishes him as the second coming of Jesus that everyone thinks he is. There's definitely more interesting characters than Balthier in XII.

Philistine.
 

Tifabelle

Pro Adventurer
AKA
Tifabelle, Nathan Drake, Locke Cole, Kain Highwind, Yamcha, Arya Stark
I missed this party :wacky:

Anywho... I only played RW once, but I don't remember anything explicit for either couple. Even the few random comments didn't necessarily make either pair canon. Although I guess it's canon that Balthier tried at some point :awesome:

FFXII had more "romance" in it than RW (at least for these couples). And the only things in FFXII that really hint towards either of these being a potential couple is when Penelo is narrating the end and she says something like "I think Ashe really misses Basch". And that Ashe wrote to him. As for Balthier/Fran, I suppose that exchange in the Bahamut at the end could be considered a bit romantic. But tbh, I don't really see them as a couple.

Ashe/Basch doesn't bother me, but it also doesn't really intrigue me much either (or "meh" in internet-speak). Although I do like both characters (even though certain times I don't like Ashe's attitude. :P) Fran/Balthier is a bromance to me, and I really like them this way. Ashe/Balthier is more appealing to me, although I don't think this was intended to happen. Does anyone know where I can find an English version of the manga?

I think arguments could probably be made for all of these pairings though. Although I do still believe that Ashe/Basch is canon. Not as much to speak of however as Vaanelo which is canon, and I love it. Which is odd because they're two bland characters made more interesting by their pairing. They had a ton more in RW than FFXII, although I think FFXII was enough to realize the canonicity of the couple. But out of all the XII characters, they're really the only ones I actively "ship". The others are just sort of... there.


He had to find out what her feelings on being tied up are somehow:

Friends with benefits? :awesome:
 

The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
AKA
TresDias
Not as much to speak of however as Vaanelo which is canon, and I love it. Which is odd because they're two bland characters made more interesting by their pairing.

Dissidia 012 made Vaan awesome, though. I mean, seriously, I really liked him after that. Which is funny, because his own starring games didn't do much for him in my eyes.

Tifabelle said:
Friends with benefits? :awesome:

That's what I'm thinking. They obviously care for each other a great deal, and I don't know that they're necessarily in love -- but they've definitely found out how the other is in the sack.
 

Tifabelle

Pro Adventurer
AKA
Tifabelle, Nathan Drake, Locke Cole, Kain Highwind, Yamcha, Arya Stark
Dissidia 012 made Vaan awesome, though. I mean, seriously, I really liked him after that. Which is funny, because his own starring games didn't do much for him in my eyes.

That is so true. He was actually really awesome in dissidia. Kind of a pity though that he wasn't that cool in his own game XD
 

Kobato

Pro Adventurer

Penelo x Larsa should be canon. No ifs, no buts.

Sigh, RW destroying a wonderful potential pairing like that..


 

stiles

Call me a TREASURE HUNTER!
AKA
Locke
You guys are so insane over what is and isn't canon. If the game is hinting at it then it's canon, that's what the people who made the game had it hinting at for. Seriously.
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
Sorry, I'm looking for more in a character than hey look I'm cool, WATCH ME BE COOL DO YOU THINK I'M COOL YET.
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Lumina

a pokémon.
AKA
Bayleef, Jessica
The name...Star Wa...does that make Vayne Darth Vader?

Anyway I must say thattt... I LOVE Balthier/Ashe. I found Balthier/Fran...IDK kind of disgusting. I always saw them as partners in crime, really good friends etc. but never as a couple. In fact except for the obvious ones (Ashe/Rasler & Vaan/Penelo) I didn't see any other possible couples.
However in my shipper mind I always loved Balthier/Ashe. Besides the fact that I'm totally biased with her, there was something kind of funny between these two. He always teased her in a way people tend to do when they like someone experience talks. The same with Larsa/Penelo, I really liked them together...but somehow it gave me the feeling with the pairing of Hope/Lightning. Don't ask why.

But other than fantasies, I never saw it as a couple. I think that Ashe was highly in love with her dead husband even after the game ended. And she wasn't seeing with looney eyes anyone in there.

That's just me.
 

Masamune

Fiat Lux
AKA
Masa
That's what I'm thinking. They obviously care for each other a great deal, and I don't know that they're necessarily in love -- but they've definitely found out how the other is in the sack.

Not forgetting the line "Nobody knows men like Fran does..." ;)

All the signs are there that Balthier & Fran have been fuck buddies. Maybe because it's not fairytale enough, some people ignore it (i.e. this thread). That, and they're racist against bunny girls. Shame on you.
 

looneymoon

they/them
AKA
Rishi
I just find it weird because I can't get the Star Wars parallels out of my head.

NO HAN YOU DON'T TOUCH CHEWWIE LIKE THAT STOP PLEASE GOD STOP.... D:

Also I just generally prefer them as best bros forever? I don't find them romantic in the "couple" type way. Though fuck buddies makes total sense to me idk. Best friends who are comfortable enough with each other to fool around I guess.
 

Tina Armstrong

Rockstar
AKA
Fackbito, RedGloves, Eileen Galvin, Saria, Lady Croft
WHY ARE YOU EVEN BRINGING STAR WARS INTO THIS AAAARGGGHHH
But hey, Balthier and Fran are awesome together. Lovers or not.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
Then it makes no sense! :wacky:

How does looking at BalthierxFran make you think of HanxChewie?

One's a 7ft shaggy dog, the other's a scantily-clad bunny girl.

Chewie ain't wearing much either.

Also, Dac, I love 12 and I love SW, but that's never stopped me from snarking them. Especially not SW.
 
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