Sudden Realizations

[ForceStealer]

Cait Sith is a robot. Case closed.

 

[Tifabelle]

But then with Reeve you've got this guy who can make stuffed animals walk around and talk on their own. And beat up bad guys. And no one else has this ability, it's not explained to any degree whatsoever, we don't even know what the process looks like, etc.

Well, part of this is that the ability is never explained within an installation. Never mentioned in FFVII, never mentioned in DoC. None of the others seem to be surprised by the ability/moving moogle doll. But it's presented that Reeve is a normal human, with an abnormal ability. So yeah, what makes him so special as to have this ability and not anyone else? And why doesn't anyone question it, assuming it really is a unique ability?

Hell, they could have even said he did it with a special materia and that would have been an improvement.

That would have been a much better explanation. Were they trying to make Reeve into something special or what?

Reeve's 10th Anniversary Ultimania profile seems to indicate that he used Inspire on both the moogle and the cat, though: "By utilizing his special ability, 'Inspire', he is able to cause inorganic things to emit life; his 'child', the 'cat'-shaped robot, Cait Sith can be controlled from a great distance." The one idea seems to lead into the other, and they're even in the same sentence.

You are a wonderful gift to the lazy, Tres.

Even were it just the moogle, though, that still leaves us with the unanswered questions about the parameters of this Shit Inspire ability. =(

Yes, "inorganic things" is quite vague. Everything is inorganic. Can he bring a table to life too? Or do these "things" have to be emulations of living things - like Cait Sith has a nose and mouth and shit. Perhaps he can only use this ability on one thing at a time?

It really just seems like they were trying to make Reeve cool or something by giving him some crazy ability. Which wasn't really necessary, because Reeve is a good character without having to be "superhuman" or w/e.

Cait Sith is a robot. Case closed.

I agree. Let's just go with that.

 

[Dana Scully]

Cait Sith is a robot. Case closed.

Seriously, this. I'm all for being canonically correct, but when they come up with fucking retarded abilities that make less sense than the average mpreg fanfic I'm just not going to bother with it. It's an incredibly stupid idea with zero justification and it should crawl back up whoever's ass it was pulled out of.

/rage

 

[ForceStealer]

AND we can't even blame it on the Compilation

You are a wonderful gift to the lazy, Tres.

It takes literally 2 clicks to get to that info on our front page (10th Anniversary UO -> Reeve Tuesti Character Profile). It's not like he looked it up in the book.
Not that I don't appreciate him , but everyone always seems to forget about all the info on this site...

 

[Tifabelle]

It takes literally 2 clicks to get to that info on our front page (10th Anniversary UO -> Reeve Tuesti Character Profile). It's not like he looked it up in the book.

Not that I don't appreciate him , but everyone always seems to forget about all the info on this site...

I don't forget But there are a lot of articles and I don't always know where to look for stuff. Or remember where I read it

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

You are a wonderful gift to the lazy, Tres.

Quoted statement adjusted for accuracy.

It takes literally 2 clicks to get to that info on our front page (10th Anniversary UO -> Reeve Tuesti Character Profile). It's not like he looked it up in the book.
Not that I don't appreciate him , but everyone always seems to forget about all the info on this site...

Quiet you. I'm attempting to bask in praise over here.

Well, part of this is that the ability is never explained within an installation. Never mentioned in FFVII, never mentioned in DoC. None of the others seem to be surprised by the ability/moving moogle doll. But it's presented that Reeve is a normal human, with an abnormal ability. So yeah, what makes him so special as to have this ability and not anyone else? And why doesn't anyone question it, assuming it really is a unique ability?

::clicky "Thanks"::

Yes, "inorganic things" is quite vague. Everything is inorganic. Can he bring a table to life too? Or do these "things" have to be emulations of living things - like Cait Sith has a nose and mouth and shit.

The question about "emulations of living things" is a good one -- and were that the case, that then begs the question of how lifelike something has to be meet the criteria. If he sees a face in his bowl of SpaghettiOs, can he bring it to life?

It really just seems like they were trying to make Reeve cool or something by giving him some crazy ability. Which wasn't really necessary, because Reeve is a good character without having to be "superhuman" or w/e.

::clicks "Thanks" again::

 

[kitikat]

Cait Sith is a robot. Case closed.

As I'm interested in AI, neural networks and other nice'y stuff, I'd be more than happy to run some tests on Cait Sith AI module ....ugh, does sound like a Hojo, doesn't it?

 

[kitikat]

By the way, I just started watching 4th part of Let's play...and another question appeared (and it is really sudden ) - were the Shin-Ra executive and scientists so stupid or/and blind that they didn't notice that Northern Crater is full of Mako energy?

Come on, that Crater wasn't a small hole in the Gaia. They couldn't just miss that when discovering (and even conquering) the world. Wouldn't any regular Shinra scientist explore such an area after discovery? And we know that just after arrival before Reunion, Rufus and co. instantly discovered that Crater is full of Mako, so it wasn't a hard thing. They found their Promised Land.

So, what was the problem to create a Neo-Midgar earlier, without Aerith help? With such amounts of Mako it couldn't be very hard.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Good question. And since Gast apparently found JENOVA there, they should have known about it. At the least, his tapes of conversations with Ifalna (taken by Hojo) mention that tons of Lifestream was being directed there.

Heck, Crisis Core even has it that Shin-Ra had done exploration in there. That's a massive plothole right there.

 

[Ryushikaze]

They also have people getting smacked down in droves trying to explore further into it.

I figure it's a Risk/Reward thing. They could try and mine the crater, but with the creatures and wierdness (And Minerva) they figured it was not cost effective to do so.

As for Rufus discovering it's full of Mako, and it being a plot hole, it might depend on how much he kept up with internal reports.
I forget what Hojo says about it, but I think Hojo's got most of his screws missing and his casing rusted as of FF7.

 

[ForceStealer]

The only explanation that comes to mind is that Neo Midgar couldn't be built there so they wanted Aerith to point them to another one. But Rufus isn't interested in Neo Midgar so he goes straight for the energy and thus, Sephiroth.

But that is a total guess.

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

Rufus does seem to show some interest in the Promised Land when he and the rest of the Shinra jerkasses show up in the Highwind at the Northern Crater, but he doesn't ever mention any plan for a Neo-Midgar. So yeah, a big chunk of the budget could have come up free to rebuild reactors instead, and with the heavy machines we see Shinra using (like the Carry Armor and other such automatons at their disposal I think they could get the construction done much faster than it would seem if they wanted to.