The Avengers, AoU, Infinity War, & Endgame films

Tennyo

Higher Further Faster
http://www.didthanoskill.me

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Lulcielid

Eyes of the Lord
AKA
Lulcy
A 90% accurate (spoiler) review of how I view some miscellaneous stuff of the movie.
and because I feel lazy to write about that at the moment :monster:

 

JechtShotMK9

The Sublimely Magnificent One
AKA
Kamiccolo9
That entire issue is a trip, man.

I shit you not, at one point, Thanos shouts "Scat, you cat!"
 
Finally watched the movie and barely got spoiled any before doing so!

- The Infinity Gauntlet is too powerful. You can't write a story with it and have it make sense. Not to mention that holding a pen or typing on a keyboard with that glove would be impossible. :monster: I wonder if Thanos has tried holding a "quill" with that. :awesome:

- Thanos's "kill half the population" idea is dumb. Everybody repeats it like the "divide by two" maths are ALWAYS applied. What if a population is four times too great? Then you'd have to kill AT LEAST 3/4ths of the population. No, it's always HALF. The "too many mouths to feed" premise is already nigh-impossible for me to buy, but they have to make it worse by being so specific with the maths.

- Although we all know that a large number of deaths will be undone in later movies, it still means a lot that this movie isn't named "Infinity Wars Part 1". If the movie had been named thusly it would have lessened the impact of the "bad guy wins" ending, because it would have felt more like a prelude to the good guys winning in Part 2 rather than being the movie's ending. Good choice.

- I squee'd at the return of Red Skull. I feel like it ties up a loose end that's been around ever since the Captain America movie.

- For the most part the humor was great. The sheer amount of giggle-worthy moments covers up the numerous cases where it felt like the humor took too much centre-stage.

- Congrats on making me feel for a genocidal maniac. That is a storytelling achievement worthy of praise.

I was spared! :D

A film that wonderfully celebrates the franchise and takes great steps in standing out from Avengers 1 and 2, despite "technically" being more of the same.
 

ForceStealer

Double Growth
- Thanos's "kill half the population" idea is dumb. Everybody repeats it like the "divide by two" maths are ALWAYS applied. What if a population is four times too great? Then you'd have to kill AT LEAST 3/4ths of the population. No, it's always HALF. The "too many mouths to feed" premise is already nigh-impossible for me to buy, but they have to make it worse by being so specific with the maths.

thanos: the universe has a finite amount of resources, so i’ve decided to assemble a reality altering gauntlet and use that to eliminate half of all life forms, thus ensuring the remaining life forms can live in peaceful worlds of plenty.

anyone else: why don’t you just use that gauntlet to create more resources

thanos:
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Tennyo

Higher Further Faster
It's better than what happens in the comics.
Thanos essentially just wants to get into Death's pants.
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X-SOLDIER

Harbinger O Great Justice
AKA
X
- Thanos's "kill half the population" idea is dumb. Everybody repeats it like the "divide by two" maths are ALWAYS applied. What if a population is four times too great? Then you'd have to kill AT LEAST 3/4ths of the population. No, it's always HALF. The "too many mouths to feed" premise is already nigh-impossible for me to buy, but they have to make it worse by being so specific with the maths.

thanos: the universe has a finite amount of resources, so i’ve decided to assemble a reality altering gauntlet and use that to eliminate half of all life forms, thus ensuring the remaining life forms can live in peaceful worlds of plenty.

anyone else: why don’t you just use that gauntlet to create more resources

thanos:
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I feel like the answer to the second part is
that doubling the resources requires specific knowledge of everyone in the universe and what they need. Also, the powers of the gauntlet seem very well suited to doing what Thanos is planning, but less so to very specifically generating real matter.

Still doesn't address the inherent flaws of the plan in the long-term, and adverse effects of societal collapse, though. :awesomonster:



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Joe

I KEEP MY IDEALS
AKA
Joe, Arcana
I like to think that the gauntlet is capable of giving you the means to do near enough anything. But it's not a wish-granting device. The method of solving any problem is at the hands of the wielder.

In this case Thanos neither has the desire or knowledge to go around fixing everybody's issues like an all-powerful god. He aims to bring stability in the quickest, most simple way possible. He even does so without factoring in the individuals he is disintegrating. He could have wiped out all the Avengers who stood against him in that snap but he didn't. He even states there's no prejudice whatsoever in who lives or dies.

It's my headcanon that Thanos knew he too may disappear and he was fine with that.
 

Lulcielid

Eyes of the Lord
AKA
Lulcy
Looking back at the IW teaser, it's interesting where the infinity stones were placed compared to where they end up in the actual movie.

Index Knuckle = Time
Middle Knucle = Space
Ring Nuckle = Reality
Little Nuckle = Power
Thumb = Mind
Center = Soul

This could have made alternative interesting story.
 
- Although Spiderman's death scene is somewhat "meme tainted" by it being a mimickry of Dr. Who, whether intentional or not, I think it transcends the meme thanks to where it differs from the Dr. Who scene: How Parker collects himself, says "sorry", and remembers that he wants to die with dignity. One of the only truly impacting "fade away" death scenes thanks to the progression from panic to acceptance.
"I believe there's a hero in all of us. That keeps us honest. Gives us strength. Makes us noble. And finally allows us to die with pride." -Aunt May, Spider-Man 2
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I am of course biased due to having read a ton of Spiderman comics as a kid, but in my headcanon Spiderman has one of the strongest wills in the Marvel universe. I apply this headcanon as an explanation to why Parker faded away so slowly: His being was just that tenacious.


- The only other fade-away death that impacted me somewhat was Scarlet Witch. I imagined that she felt some relief to die so that she could join Vision in death.


- I am grateful that I watched this movie as an adult. If I'd been a kid, that entire ending would have left me devastated. Although none of the kids in the cinema cried audibly (where I was), I feel sorry for the kids who have no way to handle that ending.


- Only after reading a reddit post did I understand what Thanos might have meant when he said "I ignored my destiny once. I will not do it again." just before killing Gamora. He may be referring to his homeworld and how he did not enact his plan of preemptive killings to save the civilization. Correct me if I'm wrong and Thanos is in fact referring to some tie-in material. :wacky:


- Although not strictly speaking a contradiction to how they ended up writing Thanos for Avengers 3, the post-ending credits scene from Avengers 1 now feels off due to its reference to Thanos's boner for the entity who is the physical representation of Death.

"To challenge them is to court death."
I mean, why else would he smile at the end. Because he likes a challenge? Maybe. But the reference to comic book Thanos dominates this scene.


- Although the ending steals the show, I want to applaud that introduction. It perfectly establishes the tone of the film, who Thanos is, what threat he poses both alone and with his army. Having Hulk so utterly defeated by Thanos both lets the audience in on Thanos's strength and it becomes the start of Hulk's struggle for the rest of the movie (and into the next one). Hulk's ego getting bruised, and perhaps for the first time ever knowing what FEAR is like, is a Hulk storyline that we have not had the pleasure of seeing before in movie format (afaik).


- I will also applaud the middle because it keeps the momentum going at all times. The movie did not bore me through any of the three acts.

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Why was Hulk/Banner beamed straight to Dr. Strange at the beginning of the movie? Simple plot convenience or is there a good explanation for why he ends up at one of the best possible spots rather than the middle of nowhere?
 
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X-SOLDIER

Harbinger O Great Justice
AKA
X
Why was Hulk/Banner beamed straight to Dr. Strange at the beginning of the movie? Simple plot convenience or is there a good explanation for why he ends up at one of the best possible spots rather than the middle of nowhere?

I would assume that
it's because Banner was sent somewhere rather than just falling into the Bifröst, so it stands to reason that he'd've been directed in his destination. Heimdall can see everything and intentionally directed him somewhere he felt was most useful for getting Earth the most significant cosmic help and simultaneously warning someone who had one of the other Infinity Stones – especially after he'd've seen Thor encounter Strange during Ragnarök.




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