The Final Fantasy VII LTD Thread (Round 4)

[Celes Chere]

I just don't see what you gain by arguing with people that will never agree with you, lol. especially when they just want to enjoy their fandoms, and not have to deal with people trying to shove facts in their face all the time. Point is, not everyone gives a fuck about the LTD... or your opinion.

 

[Vendel]

I just don't see what you gain by arguing with people that will never agree with you, lol.

Why would I argue with people that agree with me?

especially when they just want to enjoy their fandoms, and not have to deal with people trying to shove facts in their face all the time.

If that is all it was then I wouldn't care. But you and I both know they don't consider it fanon.

Point is, not everyone gives a fuck about the LTD... or your opinion.

Really? Then why do they and you get so worked up over it? Why my actions have caused you to have a bout of inspiration for a youtube vid.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to someone who creates and edits under the blanket of the very inspiration that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up an Ultimania, and start a debate.

 

[Celes Chere]

Well, isn't the point of arguing with them to make them agree with you? Dude, totally don't be a smart ass. You so knew what I meant. x'D Unless you do it just for fun? Well, whatever floats your boat I guess, I can just say that those kind of comments on videos, fanart, etc, IRRITATE the fuck out of most people. c:

So what if some people think Clerith is canon? Leave them be if they don't want to see YOUR view or argue about it. O_o That's like if I were minding my own business one day, and someone came up to me and tried to make me believe in the bible, when I don't. It's BS, plain and simple. xD If they want to debate with you, if they started it, that's a different story.

I'm not worked up over it, I'm just wondering what the point is, lol. Your actions have done what, now? OwO;; What, the Anti thing ? Raq and Balthea were talking about that, I wasn't thinking about you at all there tbh. xD

Lol yeah, okay Vennie. Thanks for like, nothing, lol.

 

[Vendel]

Well, isn't the point of arguing with them to make them agree with you?

Oh that would be a plus. But sometimes an argument for it's own sake is very fulfilling. Just don't go into the abuse room by mistake.

So what if some people think Clerith is canon? Leave them be if they don't want to see YOUR view or argue about it. O_o That's like if I were minding my own business one day, and someone came up to me and tried to make me believe in the bible, when I don't. It's BS, plain and simple. xD If they want to debate with you, if they started it, that's a different story.

No. For your example to work it would have to be someone spray-painting "The Bible is a lie" in a public place for everyone to see. Then when someone comes along with a different POV they get yelled at by the painter or more likely his/her friends. And they are told that they are being rude while half a dozen people surround the dissenter with their thumbs down.

I'm not worked up over it, I'm just wondering what the point is, lol. Your actions have done what, now? OwO;; What, the Anti thing ? Raq and Balthea were talking about that, I wasn't thinking about you at all there tbh. xD

I am the cause. Ipso facto, I'm your boss.

Thanks

You're welcome.

:jackrape:

 

[Celes Chere]

 

[Madame Mayor]

Well, isn't the point of arguing with them to make them agree with you?

I'm going to say it was Ryu because that's what I remember, but the line was something like "it's not about converting the diehards, it's about giving the facts to the lurkers".

As in, debating the clerii is fun and all, but at the end of the day I'd never expect one of them to actually admit it's fanon. What I want is someone who stumbles across the debate, maybe looking for answers to something they are curious about, maybe not even that, to be able to read the debate and understand the truth.

If you aren't clouded by shipping, Cloti is obviously canon. But when shippers go on and on around the internet yelling "Cloud and Aerith is totally the best couple ever, Cloud doesn't even love that stupid Tifa." well... that's all the lurkers have to go by.

And while I haven't debated outside of this forum in a really long time now... that was the general idea when I was.

 

[Celes Chere]

I agree with you, but when a person is minding their own business, not looking for debate at all? That's just rude.

 

[Ryushikaze]

I'm going to say it was Ryu because that's what I remember, but the line was something like "it's not about converting the diehards, it's about giving the facts to the lurkers".

It was I, yes.

As in, debating the clerii is fun and all, but at the end of the day I'd never expect one of them to actually admit it's fanon. What I want is someone who stumbles across the debate, maybe looking for answers to something they are curious about, maybe not even that, to be able to read the debate and understand the truth.

If you aren't clouded by shipping, Cloti is obviously canon. But when shippers go on and on around the internet yelling "Cloud and Aerith is totally the best couple ever, Cloud doesn't even love that stupid Tifa." well... that's all the lurkers have to go by.

And while I haven't debated outside of this forum in a really long time now... that was the general idea when I was.

There are generally two purposes to a debate, cooperational, and adversarial. Cooperational debate exists to bounce ideas off of one another in an attempt to refine the truth. Adversarial debate exists to expose the truth to a third party, with self and adversary both attempting to sway those third parties- and in rare cases, each other- of what the evidence shows the truth to be.

In all cases, it is evidence first. What does the EVIDENCE tell us. Moreover, what does the majority of the evidence tell us? Must we discard outliers? What results in a more coherent 'truth'

Literary Analysis, while perhaps incredibly weak as such, should be treated like the rest of the sciences.

Also, Fuck Post-modernism.

 

[OneWingedDemon]

Vendel, quit harrassing people with the truth

 

[null]

But sometimes an argument for it's own sake is very fulfilling.

That's my motto. Fuck it, pick a side and rile someone up.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

I leik Cali's name change at TFC. Makes me want to change my name to Stephen Colbert and congratulate her for being able to drop a load in her post's pants.

 

[null]

So, I know not of this Cali. Please tell me all about her. I imagine she's as colorful as all the other famous Cleris characters.

 

[ShuShu]

All you will ever need to know.

Also, who says Aerith can't be in two places at once? She's an all-powerful cetra, we don't know what she's capable of.

 

[crack]

I leik Cali's name change at TFC. Makes me want to change my name to Stephen Colbert and congratulate her for being able to drop a load in her post's pants.

If I changed my name to Jon Stewart maybe we could get her to pull a Palin again.

 

[Madame Mayor]

There's still a little part of me that'll always believe Cali is someone's troll account and they just keep having way too much fun with it. Because she's just too stupid to be real.

 

[Dashell]

BTW apparently Ryu is our leader

 

[Ⓐaron]

I can't speak for anyone else here, but I am no one's follower.

 

[Eerie]

There's still a little part of me that'll always believe Cali is someone's troll account and they just keep having way too much fun with it. Because she's just too stupid to be real.

Problem is that she trolls other fandoms as well. I mean, Bleach One girl has way too much time on her hands. She even whined in LJ that she wasn't her dupe. True story bro'. XD (even though the mods nailed her when she got her stories all mixed up haha).

Who's a flunkie?

 

[OneWingedDemon]

BTW apparently Ryu is our leader

Ja, we change leaders often just to mess with them. Dunno what Ryu did to Jem though, our ONE TRUE LEADER ;__;

 

[Dashell]

Dunno who Jem even is XD

(even though the mods nailed her when she got her stories all mixed up haha).

I always love her excuses when she gets caught like that.
"My sisters ARE my friends, that's why I said we were all friends sharing an apartment."
"I know I said we were in a house and then later called it an apartment. Does it really matter?"
"I didn't want people to know we were related, that's why I called my sister a guy."
"People stalk me all over the net, so I pretended not to know them."

It's like Judge Judy says, if you tell the truth you don't have to have a good memory.

Honestly I gave her the benefit of the doubt for the longest time but I can only be lied to so much before I just say fuck it.

 

[Madame Mayor]

Problem is that she trolls other fandoms as well. I mean, Bleach One girl has way too much time on her hands. She even whined in LJ that she wasn't her dupe. True story bro'. XD (even though the mods nailed her when she got her stories all mixed up haha).

Who's a flunkie?

Ya I know... it's just... I wanna believe it because the truth is just too sad?

Also, Ryu being our leader is so yesterday. Vendel is totally our leader now, it's got to do with how much the other side hates you.

 

[Fairheartstrife]

Wait? We have a leader? Was there a vote? Damn it, did I miss the election speeches? Fuck'n A, man.

Also, yes, Cali= internet loser=real life fail. I mean, if you can'r be awsum on the interwebz where the hell CAN you be?

 

[Vendel]

Also, Ryu being our leader is so yesterday. Vendel is totally our leader now, it's got to do with how much the other side hates you.

I'm so happy right now.

I promise not to abuse my new position.

 

[Dashell]

I think we're screwed

 

[Roger]

I know we're screwed.