The rebuild of Nibelheim? (Crisis Core Spoilers)

[Channy]

Those people are too busy getting attacked by the Gi to give two shits.

 

[Ⓐaron]

@ MOG: I'm not familiar with that part of the compilation so someone else will have to answer that

@ Channy: So you're saying it's impossible that anyone in Cosmo Canyon would be concerned about the mysterious death by fire of everyone in Nibelheim? Hell, they could easily be paranoid that the same fate would happen to them, that alone would plausibly provide someone with incentive to want to investigate.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

I agree with V on that point. Besides, the war with the Gi ended decades ago.

But there's also the issue (that V said he doesn't know, so I will wait) that Shinra had no problem bombing a city state to nothing when shit got bad.

 

[Channy]

Yeah but couldn't the same be said about any other nearby city? Why is Cosmo Canyon so concerned about Nibelheim? Why not Gongaga or Kalm? Sure people in the world would be concerned but it's nothing compared to Shinra up and bombing the shits out of Banora. So much so that we don't even know it existed.

 

[Ⓐaron]

@MOG: In that case I'm just going to assume that Shinra had no problem with people knowing that they were responsible for the bombing. It was deliberate and they didn't care who knew about it. In the case of Nibelheim though it was an experiment of theirs that got out of control, which would be disastrous for their image of being in control if anyone found out about it.

But yeah, that's just a guess

@Channy: well the fact that they're geographically close would have something to do with it, but really, there's nothing stopping people from any city from investigating, Cosmo was just brought up as an example because it was closest.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

We're just using Cosmo Canyon because it's the closet city that's easy to get to from Nibelhiem. They'd be the first to know.

In that case I'm just going to assume that Shinra had no problem with people knowing that they were responsible for the bombing. It was deliberate and they didn't care who knew about it. In the case of Nibelheim though it was an experiment of theirs that got out of control, which would be disastrous for their image of being in control if anyone found out about it.

But yeah, that's just a guess

But the same thing happened in Banora, an experiment (Genesis) got out of control and killed everyone. Not to mention the tons of experiments there.

 

[Channy]

oic.

Also, why DID Banora get bombed? I can't remember.

 

[ForceStealer]

Well first, Banora looked much smaller even than Nibelheim. Secondly, what exactly are we theorizing that Shinra wanted to cover up? That their hero went on a murderous rampage or incriminating documents? Because the documents survived and were only destroyed later. And no hero flipped shit in Banora.

No love for my theory though?

EDIT: Genesis killed everyone? I thought it was just his parents.

 

[Ⓐaron]

@M.O.G.: No one knew that though, did they? They just made it look like they randomly decided to destroy the place.

But hell, they could've tried to cover it up and failed and had to execute a ton of people who knew about it before it could become public knowledge, which would make them paranoid about a similar situation recurring in Nibelheim. It's not too hard to think of scenarios that would explain why Shinra would treat the two cases differently.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

Well first, Banora looked much smaller even than Nibelheim. Secondly, what exactly are theorizing that Shinra wanted to cover up? That their hero went on a murderous rampage or incriminating documents? Because the documents survived and were only destroyed later. And no hero flipped shit in Banora.

Banora was definitely more of a big deal than Nibelhiem, being the only known exporters of the Banora Apples, and a juice that Genesis made that won the National Banora contest of sorts.

From what I remember, Genesis and his clones flipped the fuck out and killed everyone there. Not to mention Hollanders massive laboratory with the cells that they kept people in for experimentation under Banora.

 

[Channy]

So Banora was a bigger deal than Nibelheim.. both had experimentation labs.. so why the secrecy Shinra? WHY?!

 

[Ⓐaron]

Like I said, because could have almost been a huge leak that would've threatened Shinra which would make them more paranoid on a repeat of the same accident?

 

[Channy]

Yeah but leak of what? Anybody who knew it was Seph killing people... were killed. How would they leak the Seph info?

 

[Ⓐaron]

it's not the witnesses that would've been a danger, it's the people who came in to investigate. My guess is someone almost spilled the beans on Banora and was only prevented from doing so at the last second, and so Shinra decided to be double secretive about Nibelheim as a result of paranoia about not catching people who are going to leak shit.

 

[Channy]

Hrm... But there wasn't any info leaked on Banora, was there?

 

[Cat Rage Room]

I don't quite remember myself.

 

[Ⓐaron]

There wasn't, as far as we know, but my point is that it's probable that information probably came dangerously close to actually being leaked, which would explain why Shinra would be doubly paranoid about the second accident. This is all just speculation on my part, mind you, but it would explain why Shinra would treat the two cases differently.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

No, that makes sense. I think we all should look up information about Banora to help us in our speculation, by the way. Doubly for V.

 

[Ⓐaron]

Yeah since I don't see myself getting a PSP anytime soon I should probably just stop caring about Crisis Core spoilers at all. Too bad I'm too lazy at the moment to look for anything else beyond what pops up in threads here

 

[Meteo]

Technically, BC and CC are both massive retcon elements so it's a bit unfair to compare Banora to Nibelheim. However, Banora did take place well before the Nibelhiem incident so it's possible that Shinra decided to change their approach to dealing with Nibelheim in light of the past events at Banora.

EDIT: Aaron pretty much said that in his above posts.

 

[Channy]

SPOILER ALERT!

But yeah Banora definitely needs to get analyzed.

edit: See THAT makes sense. ^ I forgot that one took place before the other.. but what info can be leaked?! WHAT?!

 

[Ⓐaron]

Yeah someone should probably put a CC spoiler warning on this thread

 

[Channy]

I would but apparently that only works for Mods.

 

[ForceStealer]

Banora was definitely more of a big deal than Nibelhiem, being the only known exporters of the Banora Apples, and a juice that Genesis made that won the National Banora contest of sorts.

What is national, anyway? There aren't any nations. Except maybe Wutai, and that's not a nation anymore. And while Banora apples only grow in that region, they weren't simply limited to the town. Genesis always had one, and they ate them at the end, so the exports may not have ever stopped. Maybe just interrupted for a bit.

 

[Meteo]

SPOILER ALERT!

But yeah Banora definitely needs to get analyzed.

edit: See THAT makes sense. ^ I forgot that one took place before the other.. but what info can be leaked?! WHAT?!

How about that Shinra lost control and the legendary Shinra war hero slaughtered and torched an entire town? Sephiroth was a household name across the whole of Gaia for his many outstanding achievements. In that time he was far more respected than he was feared. That's pretty defaming and dangerous information to become public for Shinra. Rebuilding the town was part of their effort to take every precaution to ensure that IF there was any existing incriminating information, it would be nullified by the superficial appearance of a perfectly intact village.