The Tribe (NZ kids/teen show)

Fangu

Great Old One
So since revealed in Claymore's Member Spotlight thread that he likes The Tribe, and that thread will be closed at some point, I thought I'd just make a new thread for this.

The Tribe is a Kiwi kids/teen show that ran for 5 seasons. It was very popular in at least NZ, Australia, the UK and Germany. It was supposed to be followed by a season 6, which was scrapped as the creators felt the show was moving too much away from the original concept. Main plotlines was used for the spin-off "The New Tomorrow".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tribe_(TV_series)

The Tribe was my guilty pleasure when I was a student/ pizza restaurant slave. I had web sites and shit and I frequently hang out in the official forums as 'prideoholic' :monster:


...I was typing up my replies to Claymore but then I had to go, so I'll post those later - thought I might just as well post the thread when I'd made it already. But anyway, the list I made was this:

Favourite season
Favourite plotline
Favourite antagonist
Favourite character
Most annoying character
Best written character
Worst written character
Best acted character
Best moment
Hottest male

@Claymore: Wow, we have completely different views on favourite seasons/scenes/characters :lol:
 

CK

buried but breathing
AKA
CK, 2D, wanker
Wiki link doesn't work. I don't even remember this show lol. I've heard the name before though.
 

Keveh Kins

Pun Enthusiast
I remember thinking Zoot's costume and hair was the most badass thing on television at the time :monster: Bummed me out that he died so quickly, so in a way he was the worst written character for me, even though he continued to feature in different ways throughout the show
 

Fangu

Great Old One
Wiki link doesn't work. I don't even remember this show lol. I've heard the name before though.
vB was lame about the ). This should work:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tribe_(TV_series)

Apparently it was commissioned Channel 5 in the UK and produced by a NZ based production team. It ran in the early 2000's.

I remember thinking Zoot's costume and hair was the most badass thing on television at the time :monster:
I had feathered Zoot as my avatar on the official forums :lol: Those white clothes. lol. He was a sight for sure. (I'm glad they kept bringing him back because I was really fond of the actor.)
 

Fangu

Great Old One
Okay let me see how much I remember :lol:
Favourite season: Season 1 was perfect for me. It had really great story arcs that came thick and fast, lots of great characters to love (or hate), and really tackled all angles of the concept.
This one is hard. I have to admit I kind of lost interest in the show with season 4 and 5. I want to say season 2, even for having no Amber in it, because it was all about trying to develop their society, building a democracy etc. I also liked the idea of bringing religion into the mix - although they kind of took it a bit too far with the whole Guardian thing - but this storyline also introduced one of my favourite characters: Lt. Luke.

Favourite plotline: I loved the whole viral mutation storyline and how the group had to try and find an antidote.
Same! It's directly linked with the premise of the show and held the most mystery to me.

Favourite antagonist: No question! Ebony without a doubt. I absolutely loved how scheming and down right ambitious she was. A really awesome character.
Mine's Ram. That disability thing gives him depth, plus his actor is quite good - it's always nice to see really good looking people performing so well you kind of forget they're good looking. (As opposed to *cough* Dwayne Cameron *cough*)

Favourite character: Amber. Loved her determination, drive and need to build something better for the group. She definitely had some serious low points in the latter series though (like the desperate need the writers felt to slap her with the Bray substitute and hurt her best friend at the same time, ugh ... don't even get me started on those developments, lol! It was just so unneeded but they just had to force the two together. But part of that blame does also come from the writers wanting to so desperately make up for the loss of Bray. I mean seriously, Jay jumped from Ebony to Trudy to Amber in what, a few weeks? It was like they were trying to replicate everything Bray had done in a short space of time to just say to the audience: "hey, it's ok, this guys is JUST as good, or bad, as Bray was ... so, don't worry ok, just forget about him". But meh, I'm rambling now. This kind of turned into a hate Jay discussion, lol.) Alice and Jack are close runner-ups.
Agreed on the Jay thing. They seemed to struggle with what to do with him, which made him very uninteresting to me.

My favourites are Lex (because of Caleb Ross, I'll admit that; the man is brilliant), May (when someone is supposed to be in 1 episode and ends up a regular, you know the character/actress is good; I really loved May being that shady survivor type), Pride (I’m a sucker for a jealous character. Man had his issues.) Ebony was a breath of fresh air, but I didn't always agree with her actress. I also really liked Lt. Luke, but his actor helped out with that a lot.

Most annoying character: This is a tough toss up between either Dee or Gel. I just really didn't like either of the two. No wait, add Ned on that list. Erm ... all three?
Hm. I guess I want to name the character that 'did nothing for me' - I think this, to me, is Chloe. She was always just... nice. If they'd written her dumber, she would have been a lot more interesting. With Patsy, they at least had the 'trying to be cool and suck up to Trudy' thing going on during the Guardian storyline.

Best written character: Trudy. Her story was a serious journey and is kinda at the heart of the show. Seeing the character fight through her depression and giving up on Bray, growing into the role of a mother and doing whatever she had to do to protect her daughter, finally seeing her blossom amongst the Gaians, then the remembered heartbreak when she finally finds someone to love - but it is taken away from her again. This slow burn development into a really great character ... that journey was definitely the best to watch over all 5 series.
I need to rewatch this entire thing. Best written... well, I love all the characters they gave depth. I think Salene had a realistic growth to her over the seasons. Ryan was the perfect sidekick to Lex. Bray's democratic save-the-world attitude was pretty nice - too bad the actor was pretty bad. I forgive him though. ;) Jack was well written but unfortunately his actor was too handsome. And of course there's the more shady characters: May, Lt. Luke, who else... the ones that weren't just instantly goody two-shoes.

I'm sure I'm forgetting half the characters I should put in here...

Worst written character: Unfortunately, this has to be Lex. As much as I 'loved to hate' him back in the early days, the latter series kinda didn't know what to do with him. He ended up too much as a caricature, and the whole nonsense of a gambling VR thing in series 5, throwing him with Siva and then some weirdness with the young Gel ... it was just such a degradation of his progress. It just felt that he was flat and didn't really evolve the last two series.
Hm, now I wish I'd paid more attention to season 4 and 5... not too sure what to put in here. I guess I was kind of disappointed with what they did with Amber in season 3 and onward. Putting her in charge of the Eco's was just lame. And the whole pregnancy thing was just meeehh. I wish they'd continue on what they started for s1. I think they kind of messed it up with her.

Best acted character: Trudy. Antonia Prebble was amazing to portray such a range as she did. Like I mentioned in the best written segment, she went through so much, and it was all acted beautifully every step of the way. It's not a surprise at all that she and Beth Allen (Amber) are now the most high profile of the actors from this show. They were awesome.
Ooh good category. Lex, May, Ram, Amber, Lt. Luke, Ellie (yes!), Ryan ... I also really liked Moz and wish they'd made her a regular.

Antonia Prebble was given a lot of stuff to handle, and I think she dealt with it fairly well. She’s not on my top list though.

Best moment: Oh God, so many to choose! Finding out that Bray and Zoot were brothers? The gooey moment where Cloe would not abandon her best friend and made the others realise that they were all in this together, despite the threat of another virus? The shocking moment that Bray saw Amber alive again? The Techno arrival (which we all originally thought was the return of adults)? ... I really can't decide.
I think for me, it's all of those small moments in s1 when they start building their society/ democracy. The votings and stuff.

Hottest male: Er, the guys on the show really didn't do anything for me, lol. At a push, Ryan. Loved his adorable dumb loveable-ness.
10 years ago I had a crush on Bray. Now it's Lex all the way. It's in his playfulness. :joy:

I also want to add in a hottest female, and that's May, hands down. That girl is so ridiculously hot I'd do her. Seriously.


(I'm sure I'd revise this list if I watched the show all over again.)
 

Selphie Tilmitt

Pro Adventurer
AKA
Maidenofwar
Used to watch this all the time with my mum back in the day, she really loved it too, we kind of had a thing for the Guardian, loved him with Tai San :lol:
 

Claymore

3x3 Eyes
Wahoo! A Tribe thread! :excited:

With post-apocalyptic stuff being all the rage nowadays, there are rumblings of a movie reboot complete with a new TV series developed by Legendary Films. This was stated by the original creator, but just waiting for an official press release to confirm it.

Fangu, have you read the official season 6 novel? What did you make of it?

Wow, we have completely different views on favourite seasons/scenes/characters :lol:

Lol. That's the beauty of the show, it did have quite a bit of scope to it.

I also liked the idea of bringing religion into the mix - although they kind of took it a bit too far with the whole Guardian thing...

This so much. I liked the concept, but the execution didn't really work and they took it to extremes with the Guardian, and on top of that, they then dragged it out for far too long. This is why I love series 1 so much. They had lots of mini arcs rather than one long arc, so that things felt fresh and had a beat to it.

(As opposed to *cough* Dwayne Cameron *cough*)

I thought he was a good actor! :offended:

May (when someone is supposed to be in 1 episode and ends up a regular, you know the character/actress is good; I really loved May being that shady survivor type).

Oh, ditto. You reminded me of why I loved May so much! The same thing happened with Alice, she appeared once in series 1, but left such an impression that they had to get her back. I'm glad they did (though I HATED the Ned pairing, seriously, this show did some really weird forced pairings at times).

Hm. I guess I want to name the character that 'did nothing for me' - I think this, to me, is Chloe. She was always just... nice. If they'd written her dumber, she would have been a lot more interesting. With Patsy, they at least had the 'trying to be cool and suck up to Trudy' thing going on during the Guardian storyline.

True, though she did get all whine-y teenage angsty in series 4 when she returned. Then she turned from 'nice little girl who was just there' to 'annoying brat', lol.

Jack was well written but unfortunately his actor was too handsome

Agreed! He got too cute to play the geek, lol.

Hm, now I wish I'd paid more attention to season 4 and 5... not too sure what to put in here. I guess I was kind of disappointed with what they did with Amber in season 3 and onward. Putting her in charge of the Eco's was just lame. And the whole pregnancy thing was just meeehh. I wish they'd continue on what they started for s1. I think they kind of messed it up with her.

You won't find any argument anywhere that Amber's development was pretty much all over the place due to a lot of behind the scenes factors, like leaving the show and schooling. She was originally meant to have the
'my father was the scientist'
storyline, but when she had to leave in series 2, that got shifted to Danni. Her return was a bit weird, though I loved having her back, but I didn't like the rushed pregnancy angle. Then series 4 and 5 just took the concept to a place it really didn't need to go, and she just lost her way a lot as they tried to shift her from Resistance leader to mother to forcing her with Jay and it ultimately just came off weird. Definitely not as good as her earlier self, but still loved her though.

I also want to add in a hottest female, and that's May, hands down. That girl is so ridiculously hot I'd do her. Seriously.

Lol. May did have that hot survival chick thing going on.
 

Ghost X

Moderator
CK, it was once aired on the ABC, iirc. I caught bits and pieces of it, but I didn't get into it much.
 

CK

buried but breathing
AKA
CK, 2D, wanker
It was on channel 4 in NZ I remember it now but only got to see bits and pieces of it as well.
 

Lex

Administrator
I used to loooooooooooove this show! I don't remember it too well because it was pre-internet and being able to re-watch things, but I'm kind of tempted now 0_0
 

Fangu

Great Old One
^ Well, it's good to be someone being cool about copyrighted material :monster:

Edit: Oy, putting Dal into 'best written character'

Also I really like Zandra's actress
 
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Cabaret

Donator
Given how old the series is and the viewing figures there on YouTube I doubt they're making any money off the copyrights these days anyway. :monster:
 
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