There had to be more entrances to Gold Saucer, and other intricacies.

Russell

.. ? ..
AKA
King of the Potato People
When I first played it struck me that:

  • ShinRa has an entire fleet of submarines capable of firing on other submarines, but no-one else in the world has any. So why did ShinRA build so many?

  • How could ShinRa & Wutai been at war when Wutai is tiny and has maybe 12 people in it.

  • How could the train carrying the Huge Materia travel along the tracks given would most of them collapsed when you walked over them and have giant holes in them.
:wacky:
 

Cat Rage Room

Great Old One
AKA
Mog
* ShinRa has an entire fleet of submarines capable of firing on other submarines, but no-one else in the world has any. So why did ShinRA build so many?

Wutai.

* How could ShinRa & Wutai been at war when Wutai is tiny and has maybe 12 people in it.

Japan. Also tiny. Former major military power. World War II. Educate yo'self.

Also, 12 people? What?

* How could the train carrying the Huge Materia travel along the tracks given would most of them collapsed when you walked over them and have giant holes in them.

Alternate route?
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
AKA
Smooth Criminal
Someone's getting a bit too hung up on game mechanics.

Wutai is certainly more than the NPCs you encounter during the game.

And yeah, that would be pretty unrealistic to think that those tracks were the ONLY route available to the train coming from the reactor.
 

Russell

.. ? ..
AKA
King of the Potato People
When I first played it struck me

When I first played I was 14 and had never played an RPG before. I took the world very literately. Wutai only had about 12 people in and it never occurred to me that there was more to the world than you were seeing. :P
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
AKA
Smooth Criminal
When I first played I was 14 and had never played an RPG before. I took the world very literately. Wutai only had about 12 people in and it never occurred to me that there was more to the world than you were seeing. :P

I admit I thought the same thing too and was fucking lost as to how a nation could run with that few people.

I had to carefully think about it, and then look at Midgar (which we only see a small portion of in the game) to finally put together that's its probably just the game and something not to take so literally.

Then I saw Sephiroth's "Supernova" limit break, and yeah. That about summed it up. :monster:
 

Neutron Ronnie

From The Front of Armament
AKA
Powerslave
@powerslave: Yeah, I think they have their weapons actually. They also have their weapons when they're caught in Junon.

I wondered about that... Locking them up with their weapons... :D Not a smooth move. Well, at least they remembered to make up for that in another game further down the series. :D
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
I wondered about that... Locking them up with their weapons... :D Not a smooth move. Well, at least they remembered to make up for that in another game further down the series. :D

I took that as 'keeping their possesions in holding outside the cell' myself, since they don't use them til they are outside the cell.

Chrono Trigger, though, is much worse. Though Dalton remembers to take your junk (Ayla in Party means Metal Gear Chrono is now Half Chrono), the guards in Guardia do not. You can trick one into the cell and hit him WITH YOUR SWORD.
 

Aki

he are sick
Also the Wutai we see in the game, is whats left of Wutai after the war. Most of the forts are proberbly abandoned. And due to limitations with the PS1 they didnt fill the disks with endless amouts of useless NPC's in houses just to make it seem "real"

Wutai is the whole continent, not just the town you can go in on the game. So presumably the whole area was covered with small settlements and forts all with Wutai's control
 

Cat Rage Room

Great Old One
AKA
Mog
There are probably (most likely (certainly is)) other cities and towns throughout the continent as well. It's not like Shinra committed genocide or anything against Wutai.
 

S and G

FFVII books and stuff
AKA
MJ Gallagher
Going back to the original topic...

In DoC Online you get to fight battles in the desert in an area that look suspiciously like a possible construction site for the Gold Saucer.

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Any thoughts?
 

S and G

FFVII books and stuff
AKA
MJ Gallagher
It start shortly before FF7. Sometime between Genesis being taken to/leaving DG and the start of the original game, so there's only a couple of months it could be.
 

Gym Leader Devil

True Master of the Dark-type (suck it Piers)
AKA
So many names
With regards to everyone always having their weapon during those capture scenes, I admit it wouldn't make sense the first time at Shinra HQ. I too came to the conclusion that everyone's weapon was stored right outside the cells and they probably rearmed during the whole "Split into two teams and follow Red XIII" bit. Now a related question, why didn't Shinra at least take whatever materia might have been slotted into those weapons before they stowed it?

The second time the team gets captured by Shinra, this time just Tifa and Barrett, let's see... I can see forgetting to take someone's glove away from them when they've been in a coma for seven days, can't you? Depending on which weapon Tifa has equipped of course, if it was say one of the claw-type gloves it might be hard to miss. As for Barrett, I've noticed around that part of the game he lifts up his real arm and does... something... with his gun-arm while he's talking to Cait Sith and Yuffie, several times. I interpreted the motion as him loading his gun-arm, like they hadn't taken the weapon but they did take the bullets or something (since the unlimited ammo he and Vince seem to have in battles is clearly just a gameplay device it follows he does need ammo, or his gun-arm is just a metal club, and his hands WERE tied until he was rescued). Did anyone else see that?
 

Gym Leader Devil

True Master of the Dark-type (suck it Piers)
AKA
So many names
Oops, almost forgot, with regards to the cellphone/PHS coverage. I have no clue WHY it is so good, but felt I should remark that this is not unique to just the original game. In one or the other of the "On the Way to a Smile" stories (Case of Shinra or Case of Yuffie I think, I forget which but lean toward CoY) it is remarked on that cell coverage somehow survived the downfall of Shinra and Meteor-fall, and still works fine even though its had no maintenence. So yeah, that is some helluva-good cell service indeed.
 

Gym Leader Devil

True Master of the Dark-type (suck it Piers)
AKA
So many names
My cats always had better luck with angled ladders, but I've seen a number of them go right up 90 degree fences with inflexible round wire to go up yes. It might not be the easiest climb for them but its possible. The area around Cosmo Canyon has a fair number of cliffs, bluffs, and so on, I'm sure Nanaki's species is pretty sure footed.
 
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