Toho's Godzilla Films (Shin Godzilla & Minus One)

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I mean seriously this shit is gross and creepy and terrifying:

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Such a cool final shot. It's so short that just when you realize what the hell you're seeing it cuts to black. :wacky:

Seriously.
The implications that it could fully reproduce from a single piece of itself, and that at the end it's attempting to split and replicate into a humanoid form, because that's what it's being defeated by is really interesting. 10/10 Gainax ending.





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Looking at that, I can't help it being reminded of a extremely similar thing in Evangelion.

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If anyone is wondering, it's episode 23 that this thing appears.
 

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Mildly related: My S.H. Monsterarts figures of Shin Godzilla's Second and Third form are supposed to be shipping around the 25th, so it'll be rad to get a good look at the little horrors and see how they match up with the Legendary Godzilla.




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So, my 2nd and 3rd form figures arrived today, and I'm gonna check them out when I get home. Mega stoked to see them along side my 2014 one. (I can poast about that here or elsewhere if anyone's interested in them).

Additionally, I was re-listening to the main theme, and noticed a comment that points out that the lyrics in the theme song, "Who will know" are actually the experience from Godzilla's point of view in a sort of terrifying haunting tragedy.




Gods, I cannot wait to watch this again.




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"That monster... will never forgive us."

That line reminded me a lot of the quote from the original Godzilla director, Ishiro Honda, "Monsters are tragic beings. They are born too tall, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy. They do not attack people because they want to, but because of their size and strength, mankind has no other choice but to defend himself. After several stories such as this, people end up having a kind of affection for the monsters. They end up caring about them." This is something which the Japanese Godzilla films emphasize in a particular balance that's different from how the Legendary films focus on the character. Shin Godzilla had the lament Who Will Know that plays during his night attack on Tokyo, so that the scene of catastrophic destruction ultimately carries more of a tragic inevitability of his situation underscoring everything.

For Godzilla: Minus One now, we've got this new line that really sets the tone of everything, but especially in how the trailer wraps up and the particulars of the imagery and visuals that it uses. While there are a plethora of post-war Japan visuals throughout the trailer and parallels in Godzilla's attack on the population, I think that the most important bits are in the closing of the trailer. There's also a brief shot at 1:00 where it says, "Somebody's got to do it." where immediately after the scene of the guy yelling on the boat, you can see someone else kneeling on the ground and screaming. He's got black spots on his face and it's appears to be raining, which is an extremely notable bit of late-WWII Japanese iconography: Black Rain.

Immediately following the two atomic bombings, all of the soot and ash over Hiroshima & Nagasaki gathered to form huge pyrocumulous storm clouds which then rained down nuclear fallout onto the burn victims after the bombings in the form of jet black rain. What would otherwise have been a soothing relief from the fires was in actuality causing radiation sickness in thousands of survivors as well as impacting those who had otherwise managed to remain unscathed in the attacks, creating stigmas and illnesses that spread invisibly in the wake of the attacks. There's a 1989 Japanese film titled Black Rain that's all about this that's worth watching (notably released the same year as the very different but also Japan-focused film Black Rain by Ridley Scott).

This is one of those things that I ended up digging into because in Remake, during the Jenova Dreamweaver boss fight, the transition to her 4th Phase where the classic JENOVA theme starts begins as she calls down Black Rain out of the sky, which Cloud dodges away from and in-game, it drains your MP if you're caught in, but it and heals Jenova's HP if she's in it. There's a VERY specific theme around the differentiation between how iconographic details like this that tie into nuclear radiation impacts humans that simultaneously has an inverted impacts on the monsters in Japanese media that are connected to them – as it's most often done in a way that allows those things to literally grow out of the tragedy and suffering of the events. This has always been classically true of Godzilla growing in size due to unintended exposure to nuclear radiation from one of various sources leading to his unnaturally enormous growth and his irradiated atomic breath.

With the trailer going from this scene and immediately flowing into all of the surrounding imagery of the naval event with the classic blue atomic Cherenkov radiation followed by the massive explosion and the line, "Everyone's dead." it very clearly draws all of the visual parallels to Castle Bravo Nuclear test in March 1954, which lead to the Lucky Dragon 5 incident – the tragedy that served as the inspiration for the original Godzilla film to be made and released in November that same year. The black and mottled design of Godzilla's skin was made to look like the keloid scars from the nuclear burn victims, and the final shot in this trailer of Godzilla roaring while all of the open wound and burns are visible on his body emphasize that even more.

What's even more telling is that AFTER the line, "That monster... will never forgive us." is spoken, the intercut shows this text:

生きる 、戦え。
SURVIVE AND FIGHT

– which immediately cuts to the penultimate scene which is not of humans, but ONLY of Godzilla stepping up out of the water and onto the beach. Then it cuts to black with the title screen "Godzilla: Minus One" and ends on the final shot showing Godzilla's body covered in open burn wounds as he's roaring through the clouds of smoke around him.

It's details like this where the Toho Godzilla being made by and for a Japanese audience really stands out because there's a way in which the intrinsic relationship of the suffering that creates Godzilla and ravages Japan are identical even as the two are placed into a position of necessary opposition against one another with Japan needing to fight against Godzilla to keep him from spreading further destruction. Shin Godzilla really leaned in on the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear disaster to retell the story of Godzilla set into the events of a modern nuclear tragedy that carried the history of Japan's tense relationship not just with the effects of radiation and other illnesses from the post-WWII-era bureaucracy but also the strained position of its relationships on the global stage.

Godzilla: Minus One really seems to be taking things totally back to the heart of things, and while that much was clear from the initial teaser, it's REALLY hard to overstate just how much more this latest trailer delivers on all of those things. There's a lot of dark history in post-war Japan's strained relationship with the US occupation where the solutions were wrapped up in Japan having no true path to relief but instead being forced to accept circumstances that redirected that pain in on itself as facing the inevitability of tragedy as though it were just a natural disaster. That's very much the purpose of the "Minus One" title that the teaser revealed.

While accepting the impossibility of fighting against a hurricane or an earthquake is something that Japan is culturally extremely resilient towards, given Japan experiencing so many natural disasters as a volcanic island nation, it's that same resilience that makes the levels of suffering capable of reaching such extremes before it hits a breaking point when it came to the nuclear disasters and post-war suffering during the American occupation. That's why Godzilla is embodied as a monster that's trapped in a situation that's unthinkable. In the original 1954 Godzilla film, the Oxygen Destroyer is a weapon that's even WORSE than the atomic bomb, but it's also the only possible way to stop Godzilla, which is why everything about the path to resolution is so intertwined into the suffering of an impossible decision and the consequences meaning that if anything escapes, then the world will be even more ravaged by horrors than it already is.

There is a LOT of that pain in the cultural scar of that situation that still impacts modern Japan, and it's interesting to see a take on Godzilla that isn't taking the Shin Godzilla approach to look at that from the perspective of modern events, but rather is focusing directly on the core of where all of that actually originated even to the point of seeming like a prequel to the 1954 film or even a retelling of that. It's hard to overstate how much I'm looking forward to this – because it looks like it's got the potential to be absolutely phenomenal.



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Godzilla Minus One

It's hard to overstate JUST how good this film is. It absolutely deserves its place at the top of the critically acclaimed Godzilla films, and it's one of those movies that's absolutely worth seeing in the theater if there's a showing you can get to. They've been expanding the number of locations in NA/EU and its unexpected success even as a limited screening is just really exciting to see for a Toho Godzilla film in general, let alone one that absolutely knocked it out of the park as solidly as this one has.



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Yeah, I quite enjoyed the aesthetics of the film. The CGI wasn't a distraction. I particularly found most scenes where Godzilla was on land quite thrilling and engaging. Definitely an enjoyable watch as a whole.

I felt some of the drama was a bit contrived, particularly when it came to when emotions were expressed, and those scenes tended to linger more than necessary. Aside from that, the human characters were written well, particularly in the first half, but my engagement with the human story aspect dipped a bit by the end, like the film was just going through the motions by that stage.

When Godzilla was pursuing in the water with his head and spikes above the water, he appears a bit cartoonish, though I suppose I was amused, so that's not necessarily a bad thing.

The Godzilla laser-charging thing is a bit cheesy, but the payoff was always rewarding (except for the last one where the laser wasn't fired, but I suppose the suspense was a decent substitute :P).

I felt the reveal of the ejection seat and Tachibana's wish for Shikishima to live should have been foreshadowed, given how angry Tachibana was, as well as the survival of Noriko. I was looking forward to a kamikaze attack on Godzilla, damn it, as much as it wasn't a "happy ending", it made narrative sense at that point of the film.

The scenes that had characters referencing Shikishima's line "My war isn't over" irked me a little, like correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure there wasn't an initial scene where the characters involved were all there for it to make sense to them when it is referenced. It was a line that would only make sense for the audience. Like Tachibana's response should have been "Huh, my war isn't over either? What are you talking about?" and at the end when Noriko says "Is your war over yet?" Shikishima should have said "I never said that line to you on camera!" :mon:. Inb4: patronisations. Yes, yes, I know, but it's not how I would have done it, and it is so easily fixed.

The part of the film where Godzilla sinks and suddenly turns off/implodes (?), for lack of better description, got a laugh from the audience. Not a bad thing, but I thought I would mention it :P.

3.6/5 stars.

While I figured it was worth preserving both of these in this thread, I also wanted to address something about the "my war" element with Shikishima since it's part of one of the most impactful moments in the film for me that I didn't mention in my brief comment earlier. This isn't intended to much as a direct response, but I wanted to quote your post as I think you'd find it interesting given what you'd mentioned.

One of the things that's extremely significant about the impact around the end of WWII is that as a nation, Japan largely experienced a collective moral injury which is when an authority from a position of power makes a decision that stands in absolute violation of what the person subject to those consequences believes to be right. While the pro-Imperial Japanese felt this with Hirohito's surrender, the anti-war Japanese felt this just as much from the atomic bombings and subsequent American occupation that didn't truly dismantle those elements. That is one of the core experiences that defines PTSD.

While on top of that, the country was full of veterans who were literally experiencing PTSD, Japanese history as far back as the Genpei War (1180-1185) has been heavily defined by extremely divisive conflict and Civil War that leads to an existential crisis where those who were in combat have no ability to leave the scope of the battlefield that they were defined by. There's an entire form of Noh Theater devoted specifically to the storytelling of the psychological strife of Samurai trapped in the Asura Realm reflecting precise themes of experiences that we now define as PTSD. As such, especially in the late 1940s when Minus One is set, the experience of civilians but especially in soldiers being unable to escape "their war" isn't an individually unique experience at all, but rather it's one that has a depth of collective understanding that just doesn't exist in the same way outside of Japan, because nowhere else has the literal centuries of cultural context and experience that formed those particular themes in the way that Minus One presents them.

(If you want a sense of the real world setting of the late-1940s Japan in which this took place, again I cannot recommend Shohei Imamura's 1989 film Black Rain highly enough, as it's got numerous elements that I would consider foundationally fundamental to fully understanding what this cultural perspective is for Minus One. Even with lots of study & historical knowledge that I personally have on the subject, there's absolutely nothing that stands out to me anywhere even remotely as significantly as my seeing that film did when it comes to impacting how I felt about Minus One. Also, if you do, just make sure you don't mistake it for Ridley Scott's film released the same year with the same name).

What the choice of this setting builds up to is exceptionally pivotal because it's being released after Shin Godzilla, where one of the most famous lines from the film is when they find out that, because of geopolitical relationships and the massive threat that Shin Godzilla poses with Japan's inability to stop him, is that the Americans are going to drop an atomic weapon on Tokyo to destroy the creature and the other nations are going to pitch in financially to assist Japan in rebuilding. They're essentially placed into a position where they don't have any means to protest or object and Yaguchi says,

"Post-war extends forever."

All throughout Minus One, Shikishima is faced with overt PTSD that very closely resembles how it's shown in films like Black Rain and documentaries of events at the time – with the nightmares & inability to tell whether or not his real life is a dream or some horrible torture, his difficulty connecting back into the world and his tense relationship to those around him because EVERYONE had roles that were meaningless. He had failed the Empire of Japan by not dying as a Kamikaze pilot and protecting the citizens who lived there, he had failed to protect his comrades on Odo Island during the initial Godzilla attack, and despite the fact that his parents wanted him to return home alive, with them dead as well neither life nor death offered him relief from the multitude of conflicting things that were meant to define his existence.

This is the same reason that he accepts both Noriko & Akiko and makes sure that he's working in order to care for them, but when they all have dinner together he remains coldly disconnected from acknowledging them emotionally. He has a want to protect things in the ways that he failed to before whilst simultaneously feeling that it's inappropriate for himself to develop a connection to those in his ward because his purpose is ultimately to die in service of their survival, so developing emotions towards either of them is a violation of his existential purpose because it remains traumatically locking into a recursive self-contradictory feedback loop where there is no means to embrace that path without simultaneously being in violation of it. This is why it's that cold emotion that pushes Noriko to get a job in Ginza ...which is why she's placed into the direct path of Godzilla, meaning that his actions have once again put someone in mortal danger facing Godzilla.

Even while Noriko survives the train attack, and Shikishima rushes into town ignoring the danger to rescue her, she ultimately saves him by pushing him into the alleyway whilst being ripped away by the blastwave, once again leaving him buried even deeper in that existential disconnect. He collapses wordless at the emptiness left in the devastation and collapses to his knees, finally screaming as the sky starts pouring down onto him in a torrent of Black Rain – the mixture of heat from the blast mixing with the irradiated ash condensing in the atmosphere in a massive pyrocumulus cloud and essentially raining down liquid fallout onto everything below. The very water that was soothing the horrible burns from radiation merely continued to further poison the bodies of all those who had survived the physical damage from the attack. At the time that this takes place historically, this type of radiation poisoning wasn't yet well-understood, but you can see the rescue crews with geiger counters sweeping the area, but because of the atomic bombings, the Black Rain became an iconic form of how, much like the PTSD, this became an invisible poison that destroyed you from the inside out. No matter what type of actions Shikishima takes, they continue to result in an outcome that runs against the pursuit of the justice that he is attempting to achieve and just brings even greater suffering that emphasize the weight of his past failures even more brutally.

One of the most notable examples of this traumatic change and how it can be totally invisible even to those right next to you is in his neighbor who initially hits & berates him for failing in his duty as a kamikaze pilot and returning back alive to their destroyed hometown, but then at the end of the film those EXACT SAME EMOTIONS & ACTIONS are used when she sees him return and she's angry at him for making her believe that he was going back out to fly to his death and leave Akiko behind – as well as dying before learning that Noriko had survived. Even while you pick up on the slow shift with her giving them food explicitly for Akiko and caring for the child while they're away, you never see her attitude towards him change directly, because her pain at losing her own children in the air raid never fade. What happens is that she's being forced to experience the loss of those who have grown close to her and see parents and children torn apart again because of EMBRACING that duty rather than defying it, and recognize that there is no inherent morality to that choice. This is why there is an intentional mirror and juxtaposition in trauma survival where the emotional conflict that surrounds those experiences are a contradictory mirror before & after because they are fundamentally struggling with the inversion of what their existential definition and moral alignment necessitates as a representation of current justice.

This is central to why Shikishima insists in bringing Tachibana to configure the Shinden for his attack and the moment that Tachibana pauses when touching the pilot's seat, I instantly knew that he was going to ensure that Shikishima survived by ensuring that the ejection seat worked. The moment the two of them meet up and Tachibana knocks Shikishima out, ties him up, and beats him – this is one of the core conflicts with PTSD. Both of them are suffering the EXACT same trauma from the deaths of their comrades and the weight of the responsibility connected with that, but that alignment in experience gives both of them a connection where no one else truly understands the pain and hatred of what Shikishima is experiencing in the way that the two of them do. Neither of them have been able to be free of that conflict and what starts to become apparent is that the hatred you have for the person obfuscates the fact that there is far more in common between the two of them than not. Learning to accept this and overcome that aversion is the only means by which PTSD recovery actually takes place.

This is also where it's worth mentioning that the Shinden is the epitome of the unrealized mastery of the WWII Japanese airforce designed specifically to combat the American B-29 bombers that were likely responsible for the air raid and destruction of Shikishima's hometown and the death of his parents. Only two prototypes were ever created, one being taken by the Americans in 1945 and the other being scrapped, so the fact that this ONE legendary aircraft was repurposed to save Japan in the film rather than being scrapped is a very significant historical element. To reinforce just how significant of a connection this is, the Tachirai Peace Memorial Museum is dedicated to the Kamikaze pilots of WWII and had its first replica of the Shinden installed in July 2022 – which it turns out was specifically the exact one that Toho built for Minus One, a fact that was only revealed after the film's release as the production company who built it had remained a secret. It is nearly impossible to overstate the weight that this carries both for Shikishima's character as well as to the thematic underpinnings of using this aircraft in service of protecting Japan in the way in which it was designed but without the blind driving self-sacrifice that Imperial Japan demanded of its pilots.

Thus, they go forward with the same mission as before, but this time rather than those terms being absolutely dictated by commanding officers and honor that neither of them can contest or object to but which will haunt them should they survive, it's a fear and a realization that they have to forge on their own based in mutual understanding of the circumstances that brought them to that point and give a means and a purpose to that pain, in order to give it a place to die. His kamikaze attack and safe ejection are the culmination of those things. The final attack is brilliantly directed showing an emphasis on the collective camaraderie on all sides that emerged where there were no absolute orders from on high, and some men were allowed to leave and remain with their families rather than face death. The tactic itself was an amazing homage to the visuals of the bubbles from the Oxygen Destroyer from the original 1954 Godzilla film, and the team of fishing boats assisting felt like an acknowledgement to the Lucky Dragon 5 whose tragic exposure to fallout was the inspiration for that film. All leading up to another moment where it feels like tragedy is going to strike and everything is suspended in an extended moment of silence before Shikishima's attack lands, and Godzilla's body slowly crumbles into ash as he parachutes back safely.

This brings everything to the telegram and the discovery that Noriko survives.


I have to state that the ending shots are what I consider to be the most monumental twist I have EVER seen in a film. Bar none.


As soon as Shikishima reads the telegram, it was finally apparent what it was and why it came to their house even before it's revealed. Unlike with the ejection seat, I hadn't figured out what that was the instant it was first introduced. There is an absolutely dizzying rush of emotions as Shikishima carries Akiko and sprints up the stairs to the hospital room, followed by an outpouring of honesty and tearful relief as they see Noriko covered in bandages in her hospital bed. The ramshackle family are finally TRULY together and we see the face of the woman who has devotedly stuck with Shikishima through so many horrible days of the tragedy of their collective survival, having seen his endless PTSD nightmares and numerous other things, and she asks him,

"Is your war finally over?"

...but then as she leans down to soothe him sobbing in her lap, her bandages shift ever so slightly – which reveals that there is a vein of something swollen & black spidering out from her back and pulsing underneath her skin.

Then the shot cuts to show the top half of Godzilla's skull underwater suddenly bubbling up and starting to grow back flesh exactly the way we saw previously when its cheek and jaw were blown out by a landmine and then regenerated near-instantaneously. The reveal and cut make it clear that Noriko is still alive because of Godzilla, and despite all of their best efforts... Godzilla isn't dead. That lingering feeling of haunting dread for what that means mixed with her hesitant reprieve remains throughout the credits as the names of those involved with the film flow by and the story is left lingering on that dizzying note. The questioning is finally punctuated as the music of the credits fades and in the silence as the final names appear, you slowly hear Godzilla's approaching footfalls grow louder, and then it ends on that terrifying iconic roar returning in the darkness.

Despite the momentary happy ending of a family reunited against all odds, this is a reminder that while Shikishima survived the Ginza attack, he was in the open as Black Rain came pouring down onto him. While Noriko was physically ripped away by the pressure wave blast and battered by debris, her exposure to Godzilla mutated her body and allowed her to survive a mortal injury. Neither of them made it through the Ginza attack unscathed, but the true damage of what they suffered there hasn't even had time to fully manifest. This is a moment of joy, a true sigh of relief, but it's a calm voice accepting that moment for someone else who's long needed it – because if Shikishima doesn't get to have this moment of relief he'll never be able to have the strength to face the horrors that the film has made it clear still lie ahead for them. They have friends, family, and the support that they need but this also means that they stand to lose even more than they've ever had.

Minus One commits to always finding the moment where there is what seems like a moment of relief, only to make it clear that the quiet truth is that the pain will continue to descend even deeper. The whole theme of the film being set with Godzilla's assault taking place in a Japan that's just been through the atomic bombings and the title are a direct reminder that just when you think things have reached their lowest possible point, it will take away even more than you ever thought you still had left to lose.

The end of the film wordlessly delivers a harrowing reminder about the fact that, while the scars that type of reality-altering existential trauma leaves may eventually find relief, and while you may survive them to be able to move on and overcome that, even then they never truly heal...

– because "Post-war extends FOREVER."

As its predecessor Shin Godzilla showed, the post-war period is far from any true relief from that suffering, but what it amounts to is scrambling to have the power to contain that harm before it's able to spread and impact the lives of others being a continual vigilance. It is a constant battle to contain that from regenerating, mutating, spreading, and damaging things far beyond that initial pain. The ending of Minus One delivers a flawlessly conflicting mixture of relief, disbelief, catharsis, rejection, consolation, joy, dread, optimism, & helplessness all at once that manage to convey the experience of what it's like to exist with that type of trauma more poignantly than any other film I've ever seen.

Even beyond that, this ending manages to add in even more weight to the exact same sense of what the final lingering, frozen shot of Shin Godzilla's tail from the previous film represented. All of the humanoid Godzillas are attempting to split off and were frozen seconds before they detached where they would have carried on Godzilla's own existential pain which is identical to the PTSD and tragic despair that the survivors of this type of wound feel in their struggle to keep from drowning in that eternally inescapable darkness. The humanoid Godzillas in Shin Godzilla would have been capable of intercontinental flight and would have caused that horror to spread in a way that would have been irrecoverable had even a single one escaped, and the solution to freeze them rather than submit to another re-opening of those same atomic wounds by bombing Tokyo was only achieved because of a desperately devoted emphasis on human relationship and trust in one another even beyond the bounds of official policy.

Both films show how necessary action as that type of disconnected & sterlie democratic bureaucratic process wouldn't have been efficient enough for that solution to have been viable, nor would the authoritarian certainty of the Imperial rule of Japan have been able to save them from this pain. There is no perfect solution because it's impossible to undo the actions of the past that lead to the pains that are currently experienced. There is no choice but to live with them – and doing so requires embracing the humanity in one another in the moments where we can, because the damage extends far, FAR deeper than it's ever possible to truly know in the moment.

Minus One is not only brilliant as a film in its own right, but in the context as a sequel to the themes of Shin Godzilla, it manages to continue the trend of re-examing and elevating both the narrative elements of the original 1954 Godzilla film as well as those of its own immediate predecessor which did the same for a modern Japan. Also its use of the classic musical scores from Godzilla, Godzilla vs. Mothra, & Godzilla vs. King Ghodirah were all utterly spectacular in how and when those were employed to stir up the emotions of life-long Godzilla fans like myself in ways that bring an extra link to the history of the films that you feel more than understand directly in those moments.

I feel comfortable in saying that it is an absolute masterpiece.




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So a few different things, first of which is that the film is getting a black & white release in January (titled in Japanese as Godzilla Minus One Minus Color), and it's not just a simple filter but everything is explicitly recut for this version of the film. There are some direct comments by the director in the Twitter post announcement speaking about what was done for this version.



Insofar as the film itself,

He did a recent interview where he talks about the inspiration for some of the choices of the film like the use of the "G" logo in the titles rather than word Godzilla (like the new one being "G -1.0/C"), Godzilla's extending dorsal fins during his atomic breath attack, as well as the very end of the film intentionally not being a tragic ending but also not being a happy one. He mentions a few other interesting things like how Toho actually has a specific restriction on Godzilla eating people (and makes a bit of a joke about the 1998 Godzilla film when discussing Godzilla's diet), but also mentions that his favourite 3 Godzilla films are Gojira, GMK, & Shin Godzilla which emphasize a lot about how Minus One portrays Godzilla. Related to that point, there's another interview from closer to the film's Japanese release, where he talks about the portrayal of war, but near the very end, he mentions that he sees Godzilla as being very much like a sort of Curse God (祟り神) like in Princess Mononoke, which not only makes for a fairly interesting perspective on the sort of pained retaliatory nature of his behaviour, but also in the way that it leaves a lasting impact on the people who come into contact with him ESPECIALLY in light of how Noriko's wound is visually portrayed in the final scene and tied to her surviving what would otherwise have been a mortal injury as that's exactly the sort of thing we see Prince Ashitaka experiencing as a result of his cursed wound.

Lastly, in poking around at some of the related details to the film I found out that he was the VFX director on Parasite Eve (the film adaptation of the novel that was released in 1997 before Square made the game), and also that the second major film he directed was Returner back in 2002 which has been a long-time favourite sci-fi film of mine ever since I saw it way back in high school. Returner also has a really particular tone to its ending that I absolutely love and had I remembered that he was the director of that before seeing Minus One, I'd definitely have been expecting something that had similar pacing to how the finale of that film plays out, so I'm glad I only caught that connection afterwards.

Either way, it's really interesting to see all the ways that his work crosses into things I've been exceedingly familiar with for a long time similar to Anno being the director of Shin Godzilla bringing in a lot of thematic and visual language that's nearly second nature to me at this point.

Not sure if there'll be a theater here that'll end up getting the black & white cut once that's been released, but I'd definitely want to check it out of there is. I think there's a decent chance that at least NA will get one given that Minus One has now made more money in NA than it has in Japan, which is an absolutely staggering mark of success given how well it did in Japan.



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the director wrote a novelisation himself so i am reading that. i am only like 20 pages in (just past the first appearance of godzilla) but it’s interesting seeing things get expanded on or added (back?) that i didn’t notice or realise just seeing the film once

- when tachibana says they can’t find anything wrong with shikishima’s fighter and shikishima storms off, he’s only feigning offence. he already thought the mechanics looking at him had realised he was abandoning his kamikaze mission

- the deep sea fish that appear before godzilla, the details of which i couldn’t really make out on screen, have thrown up their stomachs. this is apparently happens when they rush up to the surface as godzilla moved, idk if this is a bit of foreshadowing for the plan at the end using rapid changes in water pressure from ascending/descending to defeat Godzilla

- there is a scene where shikishima has dinner with the mechanics which i can’t remember if it was in the film or not. they have cooked a deep sea fish hot pot with the fish shikishima saw earlier, and the mechanics talk about the locals’ tales deep sea fish being a sign of Godzilla approaching
 

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the deep sea fish that appear before godzilla, the details of which i couldn’t really make out on screen, have thrown up their stomachs. this is apparently happens when they rush up to the surface as godzilla moved, idk if this is a bit of foreshadowing for the plan at the end using rapid changes in water pressure from ascending/descending to defeat Godzilla

Ohhhh! That makes a a lot of sense, I couldn't figure out what I was supposed to be seeing with them :lol:

And no I don't think that other scene you described was in the movie
 

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It's awesome that he also wrote the noveliztion!

I followed a Russian deep sea fisherman on Twitter a long while back, so I got really used to recognizing how some fish look different when they've been rapidly depressurized, so it never occurred to me that that was a detail in the film that normal people have absolutely zero reason to be familiar with and wouldn't have made it as clear why it was happening when Godzilla was nearby, so I'm glad things like that are detailed explicitly in the novelization when they're only portrayed visually in the film. (Related: Blobfish look totally different when they're underwater, and the famous pictures of them are only blob-like from what rapid depressurization does to their bodies).

Along those same lines, it's neat how there're other extra details like what characters are thinking that don't really have a way to be explicitly detailed in film, as well as little extra scenes that don't appear to've made it into the film. Hopefully there're some other hidden gems like that!



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