Weiss appears in Dirge of Cerberus: Chapter 2

[guisado]

Hi, in this chapter Weiss have a Video that he told this:

The time has come to cleanse this planet. The pure will be "spared" for the cause, while the tainted will be hunted down and exterminated. They shall be slashed, strangled, and slaughtered. Beaten, stabbed, and crushed. Garroted and impaled. Shot and executed without mercy. The time has come to cleanse this world.

How is possible this? if is dead in Dirge of Cerberus yeah? is a recorder video?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NVjYURjKaw

begin in 4:00



anyone know this? thanks

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

The video was most likely recorded before he died, after he was initially possessed by Hojo's fragments. The video was just played later.

 

[guisado]

The video was most likely recorded before he died, after he was initially possessed by Hojo's fragments. The video was just played later.

hmm makes sense, and in that video they talk about yelling or voices that are heard, referred exactly?

 

[S and G]

By the time of Dirge of Cerberus, Weiss has been dead for at least two weeks.

The "voices", to the best of my knowledge, is referring to the screams of the people captured by Deepground to awaken Omega

 

[guisado]

By the time of Dirge of Cerberus, Weiss has been dead for at least two weeks.

The "voices", to the best of my knowledge, is referring to the screams of the people captured by Deepground to awaken Omega

thanks for the info!

 

[guisado]

hello! I have another question, fragments we see Vincent in Lucrecia's cave in the early chapters, are imaginary? or are the Past? or when they happen? I do not find an explanation for this.

And last question: Dirge of Cerberus Lost Episode ,happens between chapter 4 and 5 right? I mean, when you leave the WRO base and reaches the shinra mansion.

 

[ForceStealer]

The answer to your last question is yes.

As to Lucrecia. I'm not positive in those scenes, I assume they're projections from Lucrecia - the same way as she showed Cloud and the rest the flashbacks of Nibelheim.
In Shinra Manor it's that materia projecting the image because...the writers thought they were on Spira I guess (yeah yeah yeah same universe, whatever).

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Was it supposed to be that Lucrecia showed Cloud and co. projections in that scene from the OG? I just assumed it was Vincent flashing back.

 

[guisado]

and what is orange materia that Shelke have? have any significate?

 

[S and G]

Was it supposed to be that Lucrecia showed Cloud and co. projections in that scene from the OG? I just assumed it was Vincent flashing back.

In the OG, Lucrecia appears to Vincent and Cloud. However, my understanding of this (as shown in Dirge of Cerberus) is that it was not the real Lucrecia but a hologram of her 'data'. Before her death, Lucrecia fragmented her neurodata so that she could appear as a hologram with a pre-recorded message in the Shinra Manor Materia, have her memories and knowledge stored in digital form on the Worldwide Network (that Shelke can access), and also so that she could appear as a projection of herself to Vincent from her real body in the Materia cave.

For all intents and purposes, what Vincent sees is a message from the past as Lucrecia is dead.

As for the orange Materia, this is Shelke's Shield Materia. It's what keeps her safe in battle and also in Nero's darkness. As her abilities as a Tsviet lie not in combat but elsewhere, the Shield Materia was a necessary accessory for her.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Wait, now I'm terribly confused. In the OG, Cloud and co. go to Lucrecia's cave, where her actual body is crystallized. She never actually died. She says herself that Jenova made her too resilient to kill herself.

As for the video sphere materia from the Shinra Mansion, that shatters after Vincent watches its pre-recorded message, so that couldn't be Shelke's Shield materia.

 

[S and G]

Sorry, my bad, Tres is correct regarding Lucrecia not being dead. That's actually an important point regarding her existence. Please forgive my oversight. I hadn't had my coffee. In the Materia Cave, it isn't an apparition at all but the real Lucrecia albeit a shadow of herself.

Also, Tres, the question was relating to Shelke's Materia not the one at Shinra Manor

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Ah, somehow I missed guisado's question about the materia.

 

[ForceStealer]

Was it supposed to be that Lucrecia showed Cloud and co. projections in that scene from the OG? I just assumed it was Vincent flashing back.

Um...I'm not sure. I guess I just assumed Cloud sees everything we see. And I know the Kalm flashback is the classic 'viewer sees the narration' thing. But if Tifa can watch Cloud's memories in his subconscious when they're in the Lifestream (and Sephiroth can create illusionary settings), I never thought it outrageous that Lucrecia could do something similar.

But you're right that it's entirely possible that it's just Vincent flashing back for the player's benefit.

 

[guisado]

Hi! i re-played to dirge of cerberus and in the chapter 5 in the cinematic of caith sith i see this!

http://www.subirimagenes.net/i/1310260335543667.jpg

in the final on this video. What is this arm? the arm of Omega? or what¿
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwsYaHosbek

8:35



And what the hell is the green materia that Vincent found in Shinra Manor? Lucrecia holographically? she expected that Vincent arrive in any moment¿

and the last question, how is possible that in the Shinra Manor have Shinra SOLDIER in?

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

1) Yep, that's Omega's arm.

2) The materia with Lucrecia's hologram was apparently left there by her for Vincent to find. How it was never discovered before makes no sense to me either. It's kind of a stupid idea.

3) There are regular SOLDIERs in the mansion because they were trapped in Midgar after Meteorfall. They survived and eventually got free, then joined Deepground.

 

[guisado]

1) Yep, that's Omega's arm.

2) The materia with Lucrecia's hologram was apparently left there by her for Vincent to find. How it was never discovered before makes no sense to me either. It's kind of a stupid idea.

3) There are regular SOLDIERs in the mansion because they were trapped in Midgar after Meteorfall. They survived and eventually got free, then joined Deepground.

the point 3, is your suposition or is canon or put in any Ultimano or guide?

 

[Roger]

You encounter regular SOLDIERs at Shinra Manor? I didn't think they even had a model for them in the game.

 

[guisado]

You encounter regular SOLDIERs at Shinra Manor? I didn't think they even had a model for them in the game.

yeah 6 or 7 Shinra Soldier in Shinra Manor look this Video

3 first soldiers:

1 Deepground soldiers and 2 Soldiers Shinra!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJRStJtjv-c

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

the point 3, is your suposition or is canon or put in any Ultimano or guide?

It's from a book, yes:

http://thelifestream.net/guide-book-translations/dc-official-complete-guide-term-list-pg-318/

 

[ForceStealer]

You encounter regular SOLDIERs at Shinra Manor? I didn't think they even had a model for them in the game.

Spoiler: Their concept art is actually kinda cool

 

[guisado]

Anyone know what is the Official information of the Sierra or Shera? in any Ultimania have information?

Is Shera or Sierra? which is his name?

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Either is fine. Both have been used in official materials. "Sierra" is the name used on the model of the ship designed by Kotobukiya. "Shera" was used in the Reunion Files book and the English releases of Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus.

Ironically, neither is, strictly speaking, more correct than the other. The katakana actually involved in the name is シエラ. This is "Shiera."

 

[S and G]

I was of the opinion that Shera was the mistranslation of 'Sierra' which should have been the character's original name. So as not to mess with consistency, the English versions of Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus continued with Shera. It's been many moons since that was discussed, though, so I have no clue where that info came from so I'll trust yours instead.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

They probably did keep it that way for consistency's sake, but "Shera" is, ironically, closer to the actual romaji involved. That said, シエラ is how Japan spells the "Sierra" in "Sierra Madre" and "Sierra Nevada," so "Sierra" might be considered more correct for that reason.

Who knows where Square got the name, though.