Why did Hojo never tell Sephiroth he was his father?

[jazzflower92]

Yes, I remember that part. One of the assistants said that Hojo's constant cackling gave him a migraine. So it's not just Sephiroth, but everyone on the game hated the guy. And yes, you do have a point about perfectionism and molding their children. I don't think that Hojo would have given a rats ass about Sephiroth had he been born normal. I am not sure if he intentionally got Lucrecia pregnant because he wanted a fetus to experiment on, or he was just being a typical husband and got her preggo and figured that it was a good opportunity to test his hypothesis. Either way, why did he have to use his own child and not just some random fetus? Unless he wanted an attachment to a centra for his own ego or because he thought giving his child the powers of the cetra was the best thing for it. Dirges portrayal of this backstory was different. It was not written by the original FF7 writers and I believe it was a quick game cheap attempt to rake in some cash after Advent Children while people were still in the FF7 mood.

Probably because Lucrecia was the only available woman around who could potentially consent to the project. And then Hojo just throws her away when its all done. To top it all off Hojo and Shinra keep Sephiroth from learning who his true mother ever since he was young. But yes using his own child as an experiment was convenient for himself and a way to boost his ego about having a phenomenal offspring.

 

[Clement Rage]

He doesn't need consent. Turks specialise in kidnapping for the science labs, he could have just ordered a random woman snatched if he wanted to. But he didn't.

His assistants don't like his laugh, that's not 'he's evil!' He quickly gains a bunch of groupies in Costa.

 

[Ozarkas]

He doesn't need consent. Turks specialise in kidnapping for the science labs, he could have just ordered a random woman snatched if he wanted to. But he didn't.

His assistants don't like his laugh, that's not 'he's evil!' He quickly gains a bunch of groupies in Costa.

Those groupies were gold diggers.

 

[Ravynne Nevyrmore]

My headcanon/fanfiction regarding Lucrecia marrying Hojo, etc., is that it was a legal move involving custody. They had the plan to experiment on the kid before hand—or Hojo did, proposed it to Lucrecia, Lucrecia was intrigued by the science of it but repulsed by the rest, and then when shit went down with Vincent and she needed a good excuse to distance herself from him that didn’t involve, you know, actually dealing with her feelings, she goes back to Hojo and is like “Yeah okay let’s do that thing.” Marries Hojo because it’s his project and she wants to retain rights to the child/project; ironically, he ends up using the marriage against her so THAT he has legal custody of the kid and is able to steal Seph away from her and then basically screws her over and writes her out of the picture. Which she didn’t see coming because she didn’t realize what a soulless bastard he was yet. Then he discards her and basically laughs at her uselessness and futility every day until she kills herself. Or, you know, tries, fails, and runs away.

Yeah, sure, they probably didn't NEED "legal custody rights," but then they didn't NEED to use a scientist as their volunteer uterus, they didn't NEED to mix fucking awful creative writing literature and science all the time, and frankly Grimoire definitely did not need to be wearing that cloak as a scientist. That was just weird. There's a lot of weird logic in this universe. I'm okay with "paperwork marriage for legal custody rights" when Shalua dresses for work like it's a Halloween party and her costume is "sexy clown in bondage" and that's considered okay logic.


My thoughts regarding Hojo’s sense of paternity is this:

If he really didn’t care about being Sephiroth’s father, WHY bring it up to Cloud & Co. then? Why mention it at all?

 

[jazzflower92]

My headcanon/fanfiction regarding Lucrecia marrying Hojo, etc., is that it was a legal move involving custody. They had the plan to experiment on the kid before hand—or Hojo did, proposed it to Lucrecia, Lucrecia was intrigued by the science of it but repulsed by the rest, and then when shit went down with Vincent and she needed a good excuse to distance herself from him that didn’t involve, you know, actually dealing with her feelings, she goes back to Hojo and is like “Yeah okay let’s do that thing.” Marries Hojo because it’s his project and she wants to retain rights to the child/project; ironically, he ends up using the marriage against her so THAT he has legal custody of the kid and is able to steal Seph away from her and then basically screws her over and writes her out of the picture. Which she didn’t see coming because she didn’t realize what a soulless bastard he was yet. Then he discards her and basically laughs at her uselessness and futility every day until she kills herself. Or, you know, tries, fails, and runs away.

Yeah, sure, they probably didn't NEED "legal custody rights," but then they didn't NEED to use a scientist as their volunteer uterus, they didn't NEED to mix fucking awful creative writing literature and science all the time, and frankly Grimoire definitely did not need to be wearing that cloak as a scientist. That was just weird. There's a lot of weird logic in this universe. I'm okay with "paperwork marriage for legal custody rights."


My thoughts regarding Hojo’s sense of paternity is this:

If he really didn’t care about being Sephiroth’s father, WHY bring it up to Cloud & Co. then? Why mention it at all?

His son is about to destroy the world and he probably doesn't care who knows about it now because he thinks they will all be dead by tomorrow.

 

[Ravynne Nevyrmore]

His son is about to destroy the world and he probably doesn't care who knows about it now because he thinks they will all be dead by tomorrow.

While likely a true statement, it's not quite the point.

The point is that it's on his mind. And that he feels it's significant enough to share. And he doesn't share it UNTIL the world's about to end. That seems significant.

 

[jazzflower92]

While likely a true statement, it's not quite the point.

The point is that it's on his mind. And that he feels it's significant enough to share. And he doesn't share it UNTIL the world's about to end. That seems significant.

I think its in his nature to blurt out information just at random.

 

[Ravynne Nevyrmore]

I think its in his nature to blurt out information just at random.

If that were the case his typical dialogue would be a lot more random.

"It will probably take 120 years. It's probably impossible to finish in our lifetime. Did you know the cafeteria on the third floor serves the most amazing turkey sandwiches on Thursdays?"