5 Reasons It's Still Not Cool to Admit You're a Gamer

[Cat Rage Room]

Hate to say it, but generally he's right. Keyword; generally. There are some great exceptions. But for the most part, video game storylines tend to be pretty dumb. I ENJOY them, but I take it for what it is. I sort of want to jump off a bridge when people say 'X game's storylines are better than any movie/book ever'.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

Also watch this video, everyone.


http://www.destructoid.com/rev-rant-sexy-heroines-148022.phtml

 

[Celes Chere]

I love gaming, but I really do hate the vast majority of gamers that I meet.

Really? It's the exact opposite for me. I love most of the gamers I meet, because we have something to talk about right off the bat, and there are so many games that it makes it easy. I met alot of my friends because of this fact. I don't know if that's sad or not, lol.

I'm a gamer girl and I would actually prefer a non-gamer guy. Isn't that sad?

That's not sad at all. c: However, I know from experience that it's kind of awkward with a guy that isn't into games as much or not at all, and you are. You can't nerd it out with him, and plus, you can't play games in front of him without boring the poor guy to death. Even moreso, you can't play games together. D:

Not that this applies to all men who game, but still. There are enough of the bad ones out there to ruin it for everyone.

I think this applies to women also. I know some girls that only play Kingdom Hearts and think it's "THE BEST GAME EVUR!11!" and rant on about it like annoying fangirls. I know I'm an annoying fangirl, but at least I like a variety of games...

@Sheva's Tribal outfit - Aren't Tribal outfits supposed to look like that, though? =/ They should have pointed out her clubbing outfit, because it's hideous and makes her look like a hobag. xD

(some women play Draogn Age just because they really adore Alistair

I personally thought Bayonetta was a pretty bad offender when it came to pandering to gamers sexuality.

I actually first played it not too long ago. While the gameplay is stellar, the oversexualized presentation of the main character was, well...insulting and almost embarrassing. Like, people actually want to see this shit?

Thank GOD someone else feels this way! I seriously was starting to think I was the only one. I can't stand Bayonetta - the story-line or any of the characters. The gameplay is pretty fun, yeah (I don't care how people try to deny it, but it DOES feel like Devil May Cry when I am playing it!), but I can't believe people are eating that crap up.

Loved the video.

 

[Bex]

GAMING IS MY BADGE OF HONOUR AND I WILL NEVER BE ASHAMED
/allcaps

 

[Cat Rage Room]

Really? It's the exact opposite for me. I love most of the gamers I meet, because we have something to talk about right off the bat, and there are so many games that it makes it easy. I met alot of my friends because of this fact. I don't know if that's sad or not, lol.

For me it depends. A lot of my friends in real life are 'gamers', but then again a lot of my real life gamer friends (and me, I'd like to think) are socially adjusted, normal, balanced guys/gals who are also into games. However there are enough Asperger virgin basement dweller gamers with the social adjustment of a 12 year old out there as well.

With the age of the average gamer being 35 years old, I'd say the aforementioned irritating asshole gamer is just the vocal minority, but still.

(some women play Draogn Age just because they really adore Alistair

I'm a hetereosexual man and I adore Alistair.

Thank GOD someone else feels this way! I seriously was starting to think I was the only one. I can't stand Bayonetta - the story-line or any of the characters. The gameplay is pretty fun, yeah (I don't care how people try to deny it, but it DOES feel like Devil May Cry when I am playing it!), but I can't believe people are eating that crap up.

I've heard from some that the oversexualized nature of Bayonetta was a parody of the standard 'oversexualized action heroine' thing, but if that's true, the problem with that is, a lot of gamers just aren't going to get that. If the aim of the game was to poke fun at silly video game stuff, it's going to fly right over everyone's heads when you're dealing with this kind of demographic. No sense in telling a joke if no one gets it.

And yeah, I mean, overall, I don't mind sexuality in games. Sexuality is a natural part of everyone's life, and it can be tastefully represented in books, movies, TV shows, so fundamentally speaking, video games shouldn't be different. But it just seems so pandering.

 

[Max Payne]

No sense in telling a joke if no one gets it.

japan

 

[looneymoon]

God, I thought this article was fantastic.

I don't understand why some of you are saying "oh I don't care what other people think" etc, etc. It's not about that. It's about the fact that no matter what kind of fans we are, we are NOT the fans the industry caters to. The industry has shown repeatedly that it caters to, well, 13 year old boys.

...

So yeah, these are stereotypes. They're also RIDICULOUSLY accurate, in this case. The industry needs a change of pace, and even companies like SE, who want to be original and ~groundbreaking~ manage to make games that fall into these categories (see: obsession with gadgets and pretty. Yeah, I liked FFXIII, but we all know the focus on graphics was a little obscene)

I love video games, and I think there are lots of times when the industry does it right. But for the most part I am consistently embarrassed by the decisions of industry heads and appalled by the way video game fans behave.

Nothing to say but

I personally thought Bayonetta was a pretty bad offender when it came to pandering to gamers sexuality.

I actually first played it not too long ago. While the gameplay is stellar, the oversexualized presentation of the main character was, well...insulting and almost embarrassing. Like, people actually want to see this shit?

I haven't played it but from what I've seen I wasn't too impressed =\

Also watch this video, everyone.


http://www.destructoid.com/rev-rant-sexy-heroines-148022.phtml

I totally agree with what this guy says. But on the issue, video games are not the only things dumb with female representation. Even many films/tv series seem to cater to the male audience, albeit not quite as blatant as video games (refer to this video). The difference is that movies/tv does pay some mind to its female viewership, so it's less problematic. The gaming industry still operates on this "nerdy teenage male" and tends to overlook women completely a lot of the time. Which is pretty much what the autor of the original article was saying on the issue.

The problem is a bit cyclical as well. There probably would be more female gamers if the industry didn't automatically disregard them in the first place.

I can say with certainty that the outlook is changing though. What with increasing outspoken presence online, and rising popularity of things like "The Guild," the gaming industry will probably take a closer look into its female demographic as well.

 

[Max Payne]

I don't understand why Gears of War has so many female fans. I'm not even referring to the two I play with regularly. Gears has a retarded amount of female fans, so much so that their outcry for playable females has been heard for the next game. I wouldn't expect women to be interested in such testosterone fuel action games.

Also, I find it hilarious that Bayonetta was designed by a woman. Especially after reading her design notes. Lolwtf

 

[Strangelove]

Also, I find it hilarious that Bayonetta was designed by a woman. Especially after reading her design notes. Lolwtf

What did she have to say about it?

 

[Max Payne]

She "enjoyed" meeting Kamiya's requested character traits and adding her own.

Some shit like that. It was last year when I read it, you know my memory.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

. I wouldn't expect women to be interested in such testosterone fuel action games.

You'd be surprised, it seems as if the older I get, I notice that women, in one way or another, are attracted to testosterone.

Which now that I think about it, makes...sense, since that's what...heterosexual female attraction...is.

Damn, and here I thought I was smart.

 

[Max Payne]

I know, but the internet has told me different

 

[Strangelove]

She "enjoyed" meeting Kamiya's requested character traits and adding her own.

Some shit like that. It was last year when I read it, you know my memory.

I don't know if I want to know what Kamiya's requests were if a woman came up with the design as it is. Though being a member of a group hardly guarantees you being a good representative for that group. I know she wouldn't be the only one to blame (like whoever directed the cutscenes and decided having glowing lights coming from female character's gentials was such a good idea they had to use it twice in the game), but still.

I haven't thought it over much, but even some minor changes would help. Like giving Bayonetta a proper outfit under the normal, hair one. The hair thing could be an interesting idea, but why she had to be wearing basically nothing under it. oh wait, fapping. Even if it was still a small outfit, making it that tiny little thing just seems like pandering to male gamers.

 

[Max Payne]

I don't know if I want to know what Kamiya's requests were if a woman came up with the design as it is. Though being a member of a group hardly guarantees you being a good representative for that group. I know she wouldn't be the only one to blame (like whoever directed the cutscenes and decided having glowing lights coming from female character's gentials was such a good idea they had to use it twice in the game), but still.

Eh? Ok then.

I know I've seen some japanese women come up with some fucked up designs for female characters, but none of them are going to wind up being as centerfold as Bayonetta did.

Japanese people just seem to be fucked up, whether it's man or woman(not that all humans aren't fucked up to some degree).

 

[Strangelove]

Eh? Ok then.

I know I've seen some japanese women come up with some fucked up designs for female characters, but none of them are going to wind up being as centerfold as Bayonetta did.

Japanese people just seem to be fucked up, whether it's man or woman(not that all humans aren't fucked up to some degree).

I didn't finish writing what I meant to before posting and have been joining this subject with a conversation I had before. I would have thought that, being a woman, she might have tried to tone down the sexualization. And I've seen people try to excuse things or claim they can't be (in this case) sexist because a woman was responsible for it, as if that excuses them for saying or doing something dumb.

To summarise:

 

[Max Payne]

Now, now, let's not get started on the stupidity of women

 

[Hisako]

NEWSFLASH:


Human beings Gamers are stupid and fickle.

=\

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

I'm a hetereosexual man and I adore Alistair.

but do you play the game with dating him? Didn't think so.

Also imo Garrus was totally only made to turn girls into xenophiles, but that's just my opinion.

On Bayonetta being designed by a woman: this sort of explains why she doesn't look like some doe-eyed Precious Moments doll and actually generally has proportional features. Not saying guys can't do that, but take a look at Dead or Alive or Tekken sometime and tell me he girls don't have hugeass eyes and unusually large heads.

 

[Cat Rage Room]

but do you play the game with dating him? Didn't think so.

Yes. I have a philosophy about exploring games that I spend my time on in every opportunity the game has for me. I played a hetereosexual male character my first playthrough, but that's not the only way to play.

 

[Max Payne]

but do you play the game with dating him? Didn't think so.

I fucking hate Alistair, but I had my female character marry him to become Queen just to spite Anora.

Also imo Garrus was totally only made to turn girls into xenophiles, but that's just my opinion.

Fuck you space punisher is more than fangirl bullshit

On Bayonetta being designed by a woman: this sort of explains why she doesn't look like some doe-eyed Precious Moments doll and actually generally has proportional features.

Are you a tard, Bayonetta isn't even remotely proportional. Maybe if you're referring to her facial features, but her proportions are 4 kinds of fucked up. I mean that too, I can find 4 ways her proportions are jacked the fuck up.

Even then, she was still modeled by a dood, and obviously she doesn't look just like the tarded design sketches

 

[Hisako]

but take a look at Dead or Alive or Tekken sometime and tell me he girls don't have hugeass eyes and unusually large heads.

I thought you were going to point out something else but with head size and facial proportions you've lost me on that

I don't know if I've gotten used to it or what, but their heads look fine to me =/

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Mmkay, here is Kasumi's face:

Spoiler

Here's a hoomin girl:

Spoiler

Notice the eyes? ANIMOO eyes vs. plain jane eyes. So that was mostly my point. Also Kasumi's nose seems quite a bit smaller and idk why.

 

[Max Payne]

Tekken don't have eyes like DOA does.

 

[Hisako]

Tru dat.

Although you'll need to find me a Tekken example too, Dead or Alive is generally pants-on-head retarded by nature

EDIT: Also notice how the Kasumi picture has asychronal boob jiggle. Like, wat.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

eh, I suppose not but

Spoiler: Alisa's eyes freak me the fuck out jesus