Posting artwork based on abusing Cloud isn't necessarily based on negativity though, after all there is consensual S&M
I don't really care enough to continue arguing specifics, but in general it seems like people are pretty scared to allow certain things ACF allowed because they were a source of drama on ACF. I just think this is odd, because all of us know that ACF was a horribly inefficiently run forum that often suffered from lax or inconsistent enforcement of rules that didn't make much sense to begin with. I tend to think the drama on ACF resulted not because so many topics of discussion were allowed but because the whole forum was so poorly organised. For example, spam was mostly a problem because people kept doing things to the forum that interfered with spam; sure some spam regulars trolled occasionally outside the section apart from that, but warning them and the occasional ban when merited kept them in line, as long as the bans and warnings were just (which, towards the end, most of them were, and there was coincidentally almost no drama). I'm not saying we should recreate ACF's spam section here since most people don't want it but the argument against threads that could be perceived as negative about a given character seems to be the same thing as the argument against spam - there were problems with it on ACF, therefore we don't want it here. I find this to be a flawed approach - first of all, TLS isn't ACF, a good chunk of the member base never even visited ACF, the staff are completely different, we have a completely different rule set, everyone who did visit ACF is older now, list goes on. I think a lot of times staff here are afraid to go with new ideas because of negative experiences that happened on ACF, and I think that's a shame.
There's a lot more fun in clubs than in social groups, mostly because social groups aren't integrated into vBulletin very well.