Dissidia Duodecim Final Fantasy

Cannon_Fodder

Pro Adventurer
I'd say it still adds up to be pretty baller, even considering. Bad shit happened to him, no doubt, but so does everyone else. It's life, as shitty as it is. You keep on going regardless, and no reason for it to outweigh the good.

I dunno, the bad shit happened after the good, so it probably seems more recent. In sheer quantity though, the good did outweigh the bad. The bad, for what there was, really sucked.

I don't think Laguna looks back on his life and goes 'man, I had an unfortunate life'.

Just look at the guy.
He probably doesn't think that, but he is a little slow sometimes, haha jk
 

Max Payne

Banned
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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
Laguna lived the kind of life people dream about.

Action, Adventure, victory, love, romance, loss, rising above the tribulations of life, ending up on top of the world, and seeing your kid become something great.

Pretty baller if you ask me.
 

Tifabelle

Pro Adventurer
AKA
Tifabelle, Nathan Drake, Locke Cole, Kain Highwind, Yamcha, Arya Stark
Onion Knight runs along a rainy coast.

I thought that said rain coat. I was like, "Why's he wearing a rain coat?". Listen, there has to be stupid people like me to balance out the world.

Appearing in Squall's dreams, Laguna is a key person in FFVIII. Originally a soldier, he became a reporter, an actor, and even the president of a nation throughout is unfortunate life. He has a modest, amiable personality. He is actually Squall's father.

Wasn't Laguna an actor for like 32 seconds :monster:

And I agree with Mog about "unfortunate life". Laguna's had some tragedies and bad times, but overall his life is fine. Not unlike an average real life. Actually a bit better, what with being president and all.


I'm lovin' this world map more and more. It sounds infinitely better than the chessboard. I'm sure it's fairly linear, but still makes for nicer gameplay outside of the battles.

Also, Mino. Did you include all of the exclamation marks in your translation? That's very important.
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
AKA
Smooth Criminal
I can imagine the loss of a loved one while you were away trying to save their daughter, and the missed opportunity of knowing your son, would make all the accomplishments of your life fail in comparison.

It's about perspective and importance.
 

Max Payne

Banned
AKA
Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
I can imagine the loss of a loved one while you were away trying to save their daughter, and the missed opportunity of knowing your son, would make all the accomplishments of your life fail in comparison.

It's about perspective and importance.

Dude lived a full life with friends and people that loved him, not to mention accomplished amazing things.

Loss is a natural part of life, it doesn't demean the GOOD things about that life.
 

Cat Rage Room

Great Old One
AKA
Mog
I can imagine the loss of a loved one while you were away trying to save their daughter, and the missed opportunity of knowing your son, would make all the accomplishments of your life fail in comparison.

It's about perspective and importance.



That's true, but in his own perspective and what we see, it very much seems like Laguna came to terms with it. To some people that would break them, but Laguna seems to have took it as it came and kept on going. He definitely didn't give the impression of being a broken man or anything.

Even the narrative itself through Selphie's entries thing gave the impression that, as Dacon said, Laguna lived the life that most people only can dream about. He touched a lot of lives (even Seifer of all people. Where do you think he got his battle stance from?), and many people who he only met once, decades ago, remember the guy.

The game itself and everyone in it gives the impression that he had a hell of a life. Bad shit happened, but still, it was all right in the end (as the ending seems to show).

Honestly Laguna is one of my, if not my favorite, characters in the series.
 

Makoeyes987

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Smooth Criminal
Yeah, but to not to him. He loved Rain more than anything. You really think him losing the most important person in his life is just gonna be easily sorted as "a part of life?"

He did grieve and regret his loss of seeing her again, right until the end when he was finally able to visit Winhill again.
 

Tifabelle

Pro Adventurer
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Tifabelle, Nathan Drake, Locke Cole, Kain Highwind, Yamcha, Arya Stark
Besides, Laguna doesn't seem the type to get to down about bad things that have happened :monster:

He happily remembered his wife at the end of FFVIII, and you're assuming he had qualms missing time with his son. I don't remember him saying anything like that. Did he?


EDIT: Ok, I'm slow with posting.
 

Cat Rage Room

Great Old One
AKA
Mog
Yeah, but to not to him. He loved Rain more than anything. You really think him losing the most important person in his life is just gonna be easily sorted as "a part of life?"

Eventually, yeah. The ending, at least to me, portayed his visit to his gravesite as something he eventually came to terms with. Like I said before, there's nothing to suggest in the narrative, or his character that he looks back on his life with anything but fuzzy thoughts.

I've had some pretty terrible, shitty things happen to me (as many people have), and yeah, it's a part of life.
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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Smooth Criminal
Didn't he say that he really wishes he could talk to him, and when it was all over, to come back so he could tell him something?

And considering how he talked about her and all, it's only natural that finding out your wife died while you were gone, there'd be regret and sadness.

Eventually, yeah. The ending, at least to me, portayed his visit to his gravesite as something he eventually came to terms with.

I think when he finally got to go back home and see his wife was when he made peace with it and got closure. In terms of the significance of that scene.
 

Cat Rage Room

Great Old One
AKA
Mog
Didn't he say that he really wishes he could talk to him, and when it was all over, to come back so he could tell him something?

Of course. That's just him handling his business, not indicative of him seeing his own life as something sad.

And considering how he talked about her and all, it's only natural that finding out your wife died while you were gone, there'd be regret and sadness.

Of course. I'm not saying he never got sad or down or messed up. He did, and if he didn't, that's not a 'full' life. A 'full' life is good and bad. Someone who goes through life and not ever having anything bad happen to them hasn't really lived. However, going through something bad and coming out on top at the end? Yeah, that's victory right there. Few people can claim that.
 

Tifabelle

Pro Adventurer
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Tifabelle, Nathan Drake, Locke Cole, Kain Highwind, Yamcha, Arya Stark
Didn't he say that he really wishes he could talk to him, and when it was all over, to come back so he could tell him something?

Oh yeah. To tell him that he is his father, I bet.

And considering how he talked about her and all, it's only natural that finding out your wife died while you were gone, there'd be regret and sadness.

I think when he finally got to go back home and see his wife was when he made peace with it and got closure. In terms of the significance of that scene.

It would be tragic, and depressing, but I don't think it would ruin his whole life. Either of these things. Especially someone like Laguna who is quite optimistic and positive. You can be affected by something without it ruining everything else in your life.
 

Max Payne

Banned
AKA
Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
Dude accepted everything bad that happened with his life, good and bad, and didn't let it destroy who he was or how he remembered the good things in his life.

In fact he was stronger for it
 

Strangelove

AI Researcher
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hitoshura
Maybe not so much unfortunate or unhappy (数奇:1 ふしあわせ。不運。また、そのさま。さっき。
) life, as one filled with a lot of [sometimes extreme] changes? (2 運命がさまざまに変化すること。また波乱に満ちているさま。)
 

Max Payne

Banned
AKA
Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
Well his life was full, but it did have regretful things in it.

NO ONE lives a life without regretting something. People who say they have are lying.

No matter what kind of life you live there will be tragedy and loss. That doesn't stop people from living full lives.
 

Cat Rage Room

Great Old One
AKA
Mog
Well his life was full, but it did have regretful things in it.

Yeah, I never said otherwise, bro. Like I said, a life without any loss, sadness, or regret isn't full (in my opinion). The measure of a person is how far they can go even when bad shit happens to them. If anything, bad shit can temper a person and make them better, wiser, stronger, and kinder than they were before (I can certainly attest to that myself, I've seen it and lived it. I'm sure many of you have as well!).

You can't have a full life without the bad. The people who do all the shit that Laguna did despite of the bad shit that happened? Yeah. Baller.
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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Smooth Criminal
....Yeah, okay. It is a bit weird they'd say it was a regretful life. I dunno, lol.
 

Tifabelle

Pro Adventurer
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Tifabelle, Nathan Drake, Locke Cole, Kain Highwind, Yamcha, Arya Stark
March for Japan. Maybe June-ish for NA/EUR? Teehee. I'm so excited. :joy::excited:
 

Makoeyes987

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Smooth Criminal
(has this been said yet?)

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201012/18037067.html

Japanese release date: 3rd March 2011
UMD version price: 6090 yen
Download version price: 4980 yen.

Also going to release a "Chaos&Cosmos Limited" PSP bundle for it.


edit; also, possible Phantom Train stage?

...I hate S-E. They make "limited edition" PSPs/PS3s/etc of ANY game they make. The last damn limited edition PSP for Dissidia was CHAOS AND COSMOS AS WELL. Fucking idiots.

And thank you for all that detail and news :monster:

Btw, why the fuck are you using such a scary avatar?
 

Max Payne

Banned
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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
Pretty much everyone is making limited editions of everything though.
 

Strangelove

AI Researcher
AKA
hitoshura
...I hate S-E. They make "limited edition" PSPs/PS3s/etc of ANY game they make. The last damn limited edition PSP for Dissidia was CHAOS AND COSMOS AS WELL. Fucking idiots.
It's nice for the people who didn't get a chance to buy the past 50 or so limited edition PSPs they've put out to get one, I guess :awesome:

Btw, why the fuck are you using such a scary avatar?
 
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