Effeminate Characters

[Makoeyes987]

But that's intelligent and actually interesting

 

[Channy]

Who said this topic needed to be intelligent? It was perfectly interesting talking about beautiful men.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Is all I have to say to that.

 

[Shademp]

Who said this topic needed to be intelligent? It was perfectly interesting talking about beautiful men.

I agree, beautiful men are beautiful. Like that androgynous piece of good meat in the university *licks lips*

But yes, it is quite an interesting cultural phenomena. It seems to go against the general evolutionary psychology that women should look for masculine males who can protect their young and all that. Just shows how many directions culture can take.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Pretty much. You can't pigeonhole a concept of beauty or attractiveness. Culture, upbringing, and personal taste can make one person look hot to one individual, and a complete smeghead to another.

 

[Tetsujin]

Girls are all just secretly lesbians. That's why they are attracted to effeminate men. Their subconsciousness mistakes them for girls.

They are all lesbians.
And we men always knew it.

 

[Shademp]

Girls are all just secretly lesbians. That's why they are attracted to effeminate men. Their subconsciousness mistakes them for girls.

They are all lesbians.
And we men always knew it.

World-peace bringing truth is true.

 

[Channy]

I'm a lesbian?

 

[Shademp]

I'm a lesbian?

Don't worry, it's ok. I'm a closet bisexual ya know

And yes, the pirate does make sense.

 

[Channy]

Butt pirate?

 

[Shademp]

Butt pirate?

Yarrrrrr, there's this thing they call "gay by necessity" on ye olden ships, yarrr.

*puts on a dress, wink wink*

 

[Munky]

Present on all counts. asl?

Presenting: Older than you, not male and 'l' is clearly stated below my name.

And apparently a latent lesbian.

I thought that rather than an idealised beauty (and/or perceived ethnicity) it was more that the men were feminised to allow women to relate to them better. This seems to be particularly appropriate to shonen-ai, boylove and yaoi presenting, as it does, a relationship where both partners are 'equal' (despite the seme/uke bollocks) rather than the still somewhat chauvenistic side of Japanese culture where women are lesser beings.

Edit: Or maybe that's a bullshit explanation thought up by us chicks to justify our reading of porn. XD

 

[Makoeyes987]

Eh, it's both Munky

 

[Cthulhu]

Girls are all just secretly lesbians. That's why they are attracted to effeminate men. Their subconsciousness mistakes them for girls.

They are all lesbians.
And we men always knew it.

Someone quoted a statement to that effect I made somewhere in his/her sig, what was that again?

 

[Zee]

Girls are all just secretly lesbians. That's why they are attracted to effeminate men. Their subconsciousness mistakes them for girls.

I'm glad someone speaks truth!

Anyway, I really dislike 90% of ~bishy~ men just on the basic principle of they look fucking ridiculous. :3

 

[Max Payne]

Hey Mako, stop generalizing Japanese culture you rabid fanboy shit. There's a huge amount of women over there who like manly looking men too. It's just the audience that FF is geared to loves Hideous girlboys the most. And this is not something that's only ever been introduced through Japan to America. Women have swooned over men who look women over here too. All those boybands with the guys who are effeminate, have we forgotten about those?

I'm getting quite tired of your monkey ass trolloping into a thread and flaunting your undeserved sense of self worth and inadvertently insulting people you horsefaced retard.

Everyone knows you're a little girl wrapped in a nigger, so stfu.

 

[Isabella]

Wow, there's a lot of sexual tension in this thread.

I don't get the effeminate thing either. Not the japanese cultural aspect, but the reason why so many women are drawn to men who look like women. Is it because they're less threatening? Perceived to be more sensitive? What is it?

 

[Makoeyes987]

Way to go at misreading shit, Bacon. I never said ALL OF JAPANESE WOMEN like bishonen. Get your eyes off Ms. Martian and read, motherfucker

And get off my nuts too, while you're at it.

@Isabella

Those are probably some of the reasons. But again, it's just differing tastes, and when it comes to that, whats it matter?

 

[Max Payne]

I don't get the effeminate thing either. Not the japanese cultural aspect, but the reason why so many women are drawn to men who look like women. Is it because they're less threatening? Perceived to be more sensitive? What is it?

I dunno bout you, but gangly men with giant eyes creep me out a bit.

 

[Max Payne]

Way to go at misreading shit, Bacon. I never said ALL OF JAPANESE WOMEN like bishonen. Get your eyes off Ms. Martian and read, motherfucker

You generalized, get over it. You can't deny it now, you never once specified, so shut the fuck up, and get your head out of you ass nancy.

What's to discuss? It's a fact anyone who hasn't been living in a hole in the ground has known, for the last.... over 9000 years.

Okay! Let's make this a discussion about the aesthetics and cultural representation of Japan then, rather than playing Captain Obvious!

You could probably pin the bishounen aesthetic back to the the J-Rock bands of the 70's and 80's and also visual kei. Or scratch that, you could even find instances of it back during the Heian Period. Suffice to say, Japan has always had a fondness for Japanese men who's beauty transcended the social construct of gender. It's just how they are. To quote a cliche phrase, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

entire post generalizes. And you get OFF OF EVERYONE'S NUTS.

 

[Makoeyes987]

CLEARLY SPEAKING OF A JAPANESE CULTURAL ASPECT MEANS EVERYONE IN JAPAN FOLLOWS IT.

Stfu, no one generalized shit. Clearly if I'm referring to the bishonen aesthetic, I'm speaking of the people who follow it. Not every single woman in Japan since 1970. What the fuck are you on?

 

[Max Payne]

I guess you're the one not seeing things "clearly" now.

Because you said "Japan" not some japanese people. You said all of Japan with that. That's a generalization. If you don't see that you're just bullshitting kid.

 

[Makoeyes987]

I referred to the country of origin and how Japan has a fondness for it. Clearly, not every single person in the country. I never spoke to it permeating the tastes of all people there.

 

[Max Payne]

You still implicated all of Japan with your statements. CLEARLY.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Because Japan DOES have a fondness of it, ngr. That's not a generalization, but fact. Bishounen is popular in Japan. Popular with EVERYONE? No. But still popular with a significant portion.