iamhorde
Pro Adventurer
Oh! Could you share the insights please? Haven't read much about Hollow but judging by internet chatter, it seems like Hollow is the Clerith's community's anthem while Midgar Blues is ours. Haha.
Faith v. 3.0 (Cloti Club)
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Oh! Could you share the insights please? Haven't read much about Hollow but judging by internet chatter, it seems like Hollow is the Clerith's community's anthem while Midgar Blues is ours. Haha.
Graymouse
Pro Adventurer
For me it is that iconic night at the well.
The reason why that is so impactful to me is because I have a real life experience with that growing up and it just brings back a lot of memories of my childhood romance and the time that we spent together under a starry sky those hot summer nights long ago. It was difficult to confess at that time. Looking back now, I find it silly. It is funny when you are a pre-teen the world revolves around only you and the person you hold dear. (I grew up in the 80's).
So, I can relate to Cloud and Tifa in that scene. I know it is just a video game and that they are fictional characters but sometimes video games are so relatable and that is all in part of the Devs bringing life to such beloved characters.
Final_Heaven
Pro Adventurer
I think they meant this:
I believe that the most important thing to consider when writing a song for a game is "Who, in what situation, in what state of mind?" If you factor in too much information, you'll get hung up on this and that detail, and you won't be able to make any real progress. When that happens I try to boil it all down to a single key phrase that encapsulates what I want want to express. Cloud in the rain-lost in thought- that was the image that I settled on in the end.
The struggle of a man trying to escape a destiny- he ultimately cannot-a man standing outside himself looking in, despairing that he is powerless alone, and searching for a way forward, frustrated and desperate.
I chose C11th chord to capture the complexity and insecurity of someone unable to let his guard down- though it was Yosh, with his raw powerful vocals, who gave voice to that Cloud standing quietly in the rain, but howling in his heart.
Final_Heaven
Pro Adventurer
Well, it's called build up. : p
Remake Part 1- Hug
Remake Part 2- Kiss on the cheek
Remake Part 3- Maybe a kiss on the lips or they do that CPR scene between Tifa and Cloud like they planned
Remake Part 4- Sex
How your post looked on my screen when the page loaded:
I was like, "Yo, Final_Heaven, you are all right" -- then I scrolled down. =(
I mean....I'd rather see Aerith and Tifa kiss each other than see anyone else kiss Cloud. It's just that Square isn't brave enough to make it happen
Eerie
Fire and Blood
Well Hollow is the song for when they get out of Midgar and cross paths with Zack’s souvenir. I’m on mobile right now so I can’t link back but I’ve linked the JP interview about Hollow in the Interpreting Hollow song thread, Uematsu talks a lot about very technical stuff that is interesting and that don’t go translated cause it’s nit shippy stuff lmao. You can use DeepL to translate and see by yourself, the translations are pretty good!
Cat on Mars
Actually not a cat
Let's lock them in a chocobo stable and let nature take its couse.
It works for chocobos.
Cat on Mars
Actually not a cat
looneymoon
they/them
- AKA
- Rishi
My OG gold chocobo was a product of a lot of incest.
...Maybe Cloud's biological dad was... oh dear :|
This also reminds me of another ridiculous / fucked up story about a person I know but idk if I should continue crowding the thread with those.
...Maybe Cloud's biological dad was... oh dear :|
This also reminds me of another ridiculous / fucked up story about a person I know but idk if I should continue crowding the thread with those.
Final_Heaven
Pro Adventurer
Well...yeah. The water tower is a known dating spot so she likely thought he was going to ask her out on a date and then was disappointed when it was to tell her that he was leaving just like all her other friends.
In the OG, she even mentions during the Lifestream Sequence that she thought Cloud was cute at the time.
Cat on Mars
Actually not a cat
I think everybody's Golden chocobo in the OG was product of incest. That was what the Devs intended... or at least it was what happened. 
Also don't play coy @looneymoon , we are here to gossip and you know it.
Also don't play coy @looneymoon , we are here to gossip and you know it.
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Eerie
Fire and Blood
https://mora.jp/topics/interview/finalfantasyremake_hollow/ Here is the interview for those who wonder. And DeepL translates it better than Google Translate if you want to try it. There is a lot of technical stuff that made me realise that Uematsu really thinks a lot when he creates music, and this is why Tifa's theme is totally a duet with Cloud. And learning that only now feels like years wasted!
As for the water tower scene, she definitely dressed up, I thought so as soon as I saw her, she even has cute heels! It's something you don't necessarily realise in the OG, but the Remake made this apparent. She dressed up so nicely and that idiot chocobo head didn't even see it!!
As for the water tower scene, she definitely dressed up, I thought so as soon as I saw her, she even has cute heels! It's something you don't necessarily realise in the OG, but the Remake made this apparent. She dressed up so nicely and that idiot chocobo head didn't even see it!!
The Twilight Mexican
Ex-SeeD-ingly good
- AKA
- TresDias
::curiosity piqued::
@Final_Heaven You mind posting a link to those game critic comments? I'm curious to see them!
Eerie
Fire and Blood
While we are at music, we just learned over at the cloti FC that Tifa’s theme in musicology is a man and a woman answering each other - and I mean how cool is that? While I was wondering if this was what Uematsu aimed at, the interview for Hollow just came out and you can see in his hindsight for it that he’s very thoughtful about how he creates music and how he wants to convey it - so it’s definitely intentional.
All these years Tifa’s theme was really about her and Cloud and we never knew i should rewatch ch14 scene with that in mind to see how it plays, I’ve a feeling it’s going to be good.
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Which was shared in the FC (from Reddit I believe).
All these years Tifa’s theme was really about her and Cloud and we never knew
i should rewatch ch14 scene with that in mind to see how it plays, I’ve a feeling it’s going to be good.Edit to add:
Which was shared in the FC (from Reddit I believe).
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Eerie
Fire and Blood
@minami758 here, it comes from the CD release, like Midgar Blues' lyrics: https://i.redd.it/nboduwv0t4151.png
Final_Heaven
Pro Adventurer
This is cute. Didn't notice that Cloud took Tifa away from Aerith. Although I did notice that little Tifa-Aerith moment
You mean this?
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LNK
Pro Adventurer
- AKA
- Nate
Did you watch 4-8 productions video on breeding too? Lol
Final_Heaven
Pro Adventurer
Unless you meant the other game critic and this is what they said:
Final_Heaven
Pro Adventurer
Oh, that last guy that I just quoted also owns and is the founder of RPG Site so he carries a lot more weight than just a game critic.
Yumelinh
Pro Adventurer
Thanks, @Final_Heaven!! I was curious about this too
But gosh, I made the mistake to press to see the comments below and I regret it so freakin' much! It's always the same people rushing in to nitpicking information and throw it at people as the truth ( and we have people like this in our part of the fandom as well). It's just so annoying and wrong. Mostly because these people they confront don't have the ways to check nor do they know where to find the full information, so they take what they say as truth. Probably these types of fans are what made me loath this LTD so much. I just want this to end!
looneymoon
they/them
- AKA
- Rishi
Aight... re: a little story about Pokemon Gold/Silver... and Gold Chocobos
A few years ago I worked at my first "grown up" job, which was this shady call center that seemed to exclusively employ weirdos - not discluding myself from this, mind. I was one of those weirdos, but the girl I sat beside was... something. I'm gonna call her "A" for clarity's sake.
First off, this is Western Canada and this girl looked like a character out of Jersey Shore. In 2014. This is the type of person who would dress up as a sexy Thing # 1 for Halloween, but instead of getting an orange outfit, she was committed to tanning herself to a bright orange for the sake of the costume. "Aren't you afraid of skin cancer?" I would ask. She gave no fucks. "A" was hilarious and very chatty, so I became friends with her quite quickly. We were both on different ends of the spectrum of messes who may or may not have done one too many party drugs. It was great! I had a blast working with her.
Anyway one day I was talking to a different coworker about the latest Pokemon game, as we would bring our 3DSes to work every so often. "A" kinda scooched on over and asked if we were talking about Pokemon. She never really expressed any interest in video games, but everyone likes Pokemon, so I asked her if she was playing it as well. She said no, but she really liked Gold/Silver for the Gameboy colour. I said cool, that one was my favourite as a kid, and inquired as to whether she had any particular favourites that stood out. She then casually launches into a story about her favourite Pokemon, Ditto.
A: Remember how you could put anything in the daycare with ditto, and it would make a baby?
Me: yeah! that was always so funny cuz Ditto can turn into anything!
A: Yeah, right! When I was a kid I tried to do that with my cats!
Me: Hahaha yeah, the weird shit we think we can pull off when we're kids hey
A: Oh no, it worked
Me: ...wha?
A: Yeah I locked them in my closet... they scratched at the door for a bit, but I left them in there until I heard thumping
Me: ................................
A: It was a brother and sister cat though, so the entire litter turned out r*t*rded. They were so cute though! We kept one that had 3 legs. Wanna see!?
Me: -laughing nervously- h-how old were you when this happened?
A: I was 10! My mom was so mad at me about it.
She then laughed and proceeded to clack her fake-nails away on her keyboard, as if that was a totally normal thing to drop on someone. The guy on the other side of me was speechless. "A" wasn't really the type to fuck with people for a joke. She did have a cat with three legs, as there were photos to corroborate. If it was real... that is some serial killer shit if I ever heard it.
A few years ago I worked at my first "grown up" job, which was this shady call center that seemed to exclusively employ weirdos - not discluding myself from this, mind. I was one of those weirdos, but the girl I sat beside was... something. I'm gonna call her "A" for clarity's sake.
First off, this is Western Canada and this girl looked like a character out of Jersey Shore. In 2014. This is the type of person who would dress up as a sexy Thing # 1 for Halloween, but instead of getting an orange outfit, she was committed to tanning herself to a bright orange for the sake of the costume. "Aren't you afraid of skin cancer?" I would ask. She gave no fucks. "A" was hilarious and very chatty, so I became friends with her quite quickly. We were both on different ends of the spectrum of messes who may or may not have done one too many party drugs. It was great! I had a blast working with her.
Anyway one day I was talking to a different coworker about the latest Pokemon game, as we would bring our 3DSes to work every so often. "A" kinda scooched on over and asked if we were talking about Pokemon. She never really expressed any interest in video games, but everyone likes Pokemon, so I asked her if she was playing it as well. She said no, but she really liked Gold/Silver for the Gameboy colour. I said cool, that one was my favourite as a kid, and inquired as to whether she had any particular favourites that stood out. She then casually launches into a story about her favourite Pokemon, Ditto.
A: Remember how you could put anything in the daycare with ditto, and it would make a baby?
Me: yeah! that was always so funny cuz Ditto can turn into anything!
A: Yeah, right! When I was a kid I tried to do that with my cats!
Me: Hahaha yeah, the weird shit we think we can pull off when we're kids hey
A: Oh no, it worked
Me: ...wha?
A: Yeah I locked them in my closet... they scratched at the door for a bit, but I left them in there until I heard thumping
Me: ................................
A: It was a brother and sister cat though, so the entire litter turned out r*t*rded. They were so cute though! We kept one that had 3 legs. Wanna see!?
Me: -laughing nervously- h-how old were you when this happened?
A: I was 10! My mom was so mad at me about it.
She then laughed and proceeded to clack her fake-nails away on her keyboard, as if that was a totally normal thing to drop on someone. The guy on the other side of me was speechless. "A" wasn't really the type to fuck with people for a joke. She did have a cat with three legs, as there were photos to corroborate. If it was real... that is some serial killer shit if I ever heard it.
Eerie
Fire and Blood
God, how can that girl claim that Aerith and Cloud have a similar personality, HOW? Cloud is so similar to Tifa it hurts, and the fact is they both open up to Aerith because she's easy like that, but that doesn't mean that Cloud is like Aerith - he's so far away from that! And her view about their future is uh... the only problem they had was related to his guilt/depression in AC/C, otherwise they'll be just fine.