FFVII Iceberg

[The Twilight Mexican]

ガイアの絶壁- Literally "Gaia cliff", Gaia no zeppeki. So, it isn't necessarily Gaea's cliff; that's probably a mistranslation.

How do you figure? The "no" particle there indicates the cliff(s) belong to/are "of" Gaia (whatever that is meant to be).

 

[Nandemoyasan]

How do you figure? The "no" particle there indicates the cliff(s) belong to/are "of" Gaia (whatever that is meant to be).

 

[Odysseus]

Done, you now have author privileges.

Alrighty, thank you. I'll get to work on that once I'm off work. (so much work.)

 

[AllGoodInMyHood]

How do you figure? The "no" particle there indicates the cliff(s) belong to/are "of" Gaia (whatever that is meant to be).

東京大学 (Tokyo Daigaku / Tokyo University)
東京の大学 (Tokyo no Daigaku / Some university in Tokyo)

So, it might be just "some cliff on Gaia"... BUT! Japanese is know of it's vagueness and Gaia/Gaea comes from greek mythos and the edge of the world there was a cliff with water going down...

You can never be sure

BIG FAT EDIT

I think this is more of "precipice/abyss/edge of Gaia"... Place where almost no one goes and there's nothing beyond - A BIG HECKIN' VOID

XD

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Well, yeah, but the "of Gaia" bit is the relevant part. =P

 

[AllGoodInMyHood]

Well, yeah, but the "of Gaia" bit is the relevant part. =P

Of course it is relevant! That's why I've explored the topic a bit more and I think that they might call it like that in the game cause there's nothing more beyond - people of FF7 Gaia might see that region of the world as a literal "end/edge of the world".


anyways, I'm enjoying this thread! keep it goin' <3

 

[Odysseus]

Anyone have a picture of that advent children pamphlet that calls the planet "Gaia?" I will need it for the article.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Anyone have a picture of that advent children pamphlet that calls the planet "Gaia?" I will need it for the article.

https://thelifestream.net/canon-of-ffvii/what-is-the-name-of-ffviis-planet/

 

[Odysseus]

I'm probably going to link that whole article. Mako mentioned it ALMOST made it into the remake, it was in the script in the leaked version from last January. Where could I find proof of that?

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

I'm probably going to link that whole article. Mako mentioned it ALMOST made it into the remake, it was in the script in the leaked version from last January. Where could I find proof of that?

Ehhh, I wouldn't even say that it almost made it into the remake. A non-capitalized use of "gaia" almost made it into the English localization's script, but that's it as far as we know.

In that datamine, Chadley would say this after the fight with Bahamut:

"Together with the great Bahamut, you can obliterate Shinra and wipe their existence from the face of gaia."

For the final release, they seemingly thought better of it and had Chadley say, "Together with the legendary Bahamut, I have every confidence you can expunge Shinra from existence."

There was a video on YouTube showing the datamined line, but it's gone now for obvious reasons.

 

[Odysseus]

Still thought it was worth mentioning since it's the most recent recurrence of "gaia" being used in a semi official capacity.

 

[AllGoodInMyHood]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_hypothesis

Anyone familar with this hypothesis? It's interesting cause it frames the planet (Earth/Gaia) as a space ship that travels through the universe. Now what happens when the ship starts to sink (planet becomes infected with Jenova)? You escape from the ship and preferably pick a new one (Omega from DoC says hello).

Man, I wish I coulu ask Sakaguchi about his inspirations...

 

[Makoeyes987]

You don't have to, he's been using the Gaia hypothesis since FFVII, Spirits Within, FFIX and FFX. That's like, his M.O. with Final Fantasy

 

[AllGoodInMyHood]

You don't have to, he's been using the Gaia hypothesis since FFVII, Spirits Within, FFIX and FFX. That's like, his M.O. with Final Fantasy

True that, but on one hand wouldn't it be nice to know more details?

 

[Makoeyes987]

I feel like there's an interview out there where he discusses that very concept and why he likes it.

 

[Odysseus]

Okay I've written a few entries now and it's starting to dawn on me how much work this is going to be. "a few days" was probably an understatement lol.

 

[Shademp]

When your first intuition tells you that the project is gonna be this

then it dawns on you that it's more like this

and later still you realize that it's actually Hell House on Hard Mode

 

[Odysseus]

It's already 1700 words long and I'm not even done with the first layer yet. This thing will be my college thesis by the end.

 

[Makoeyes987]

So when does it go up to Bahamut deadass summoning his homeboy Ifrit mid-battle because he thinks you're not giving it your all while he counts down to Mega Flare?

 

[Odysseus]

So when does it go up to Bahamut deadass summoning his homeboy Ifrit mid-battle because he thinks you're not giving it your all while he counts down to Mega Flare?

Probably around layer 8

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

I feel like there's an interview out there where he discusses that very concept and why he likes it.

He discussed it in the introduction to the making-of book for "The Spirit Within."

and later still you realize that it's actually Hell House on Hard Mode

Oh, in that case, just ask @looneymoon to take over and it will be done by tomorrow afternoon.

 

[Nandemoyasan]

Perhaps you could break the article into a series of articles for each Tier?

 

[Odysseus]

Nah. None of the teirs are that interesting on their own, it's just all together that it becomes interesting. I'm doing the top part now which is mostly just boring stuff everyone already knows, it'll get more fun later.

 

[Erotic Materia]

Okay, well I think it's packed enough to call "done" now. Go ahead and use it for whatever you wanted to @Lex

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Je-hee-HEE-sus that was a lot to wade through.

I haven't even heard of like 1/2 of this shit, where do you get this stuff?

 

[Odysseus]

Je-hee-HEE-sus that was a lot to wade through.

I haven't even heard of like 1/2 of this shit, where do you get this stuff?

The version for the article actually has even more things on it lol. I been around the block with FF7, I just learned about this stuff along the way.