FFVII Remake: Intergrade Yuffie DLC Announced

[Tetsujin]

Speaking of skyboxes, it seems the nighttime backgrounds have not been updated at all. Sector 5/6 still has that phantom sun lamp floating in the sky, too:



Speaking of sun lamps, why the fuck are they on at night anyway?
I thought the purpose would be to provide a semblance of natural light to the slums during daytime when the plates block sunlight for most of it. But they're off during the day.
And at night you don't need more than the street lights that are already in place now, do you? People are trying to sleep here, dammit!

 

[Shademp]

No dude Midgar is the city that never sleeps!

It is very important that all the lights are on at night while hot-blooded detective Joe is doing his detective work in New York Midgar.

 

[Odysseus]

Property values must be dirt cheap in front of those giant pointless lamps

 

[ultima786]

Speaking of skyboxes, it seems the nighttime backgrounds have not been updated at all. Sector 5/6 still has that phantom sun lamp floating in the sky, too:

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Speaking of sun lamps, why the fuck are they on at night anyway?
I thought the purpose would be to provide a semblance of natural light to the slums during daytime when the plates block sunlight for most of it. But they're off during the day.
And at night you don't need more than the street lights that are already in place now, do you? People are trying to sleep here, dammit!

Why do you say it’s a phantom lamp? Maybe it’s hanging from a string/wire.

 

[Shademp]

Property values must be dirt cheap in front of those giant pointless lamps

Selling point: You won't need your own lamp for when you read books at night.

 

[ForceStealer]

Speaking of sun lamps, why the fuck are they on at night anyway?
I thought the purpose would be to provide a semblance of natural light to the slums during daytime when the plates block sunlight for most of it. But they're off during the day.

It's clearly bright enough from the real sun during the day, I figure they're to prevent most of the slums from being pitch black at night. That they really make up for the moon and stars, rather than the sun. Only the main slum centers have lights up. The paths in between are pretty dark.

 

[Odysseus]

Selling point: You won't need your own lamp for when you read books at night.

There is no night in front of those things

 

[Tetsujin]

Property values must be dirt cheap in front of those giant pointless lamps

Opening the blinds is like

Why do you say it’s a phantom lamp? Maybe it’s hanging from a string/wire.

It's literally transparent

It's clearly bright enough from the real sun during the day, I figure they're to prevent most of the slums from being pitch black at night. That they really make up for the moon and stars, rather than the sun. Only the main slum centers have lights up. The paths in between are pretty dark.

But it's only bright enough because the devs decided to have the slums lit in the most optimal way during gameplay. Especially in the PS5 version where they changed the background to have the sun explicitly be visible through the gap in the plates. Realistically, it *should* be rather dark there for the majority of the day.

And y'know, they do call them "sun" lamps after all
Seems like the only time you see them on during the day is when you're under Sector 4. But then again, the sun is already setting at that point.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

There is no night in front of those things

I'm precisely the sort of mentally ill person who would appreciate living near those.

 

[ForceStealer]

And y'know, they do call them "sun" lamps after all

Well every star is a sun if we wanna be pedantic

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Tets, I asked that question over a year ago when I said Tifa was getting all worked up over nothing worrying about the Sector 4 sunlamps being turned off, since they didn't need them during the day thanks to all the real sunlight under the plate, and at night they had plenty of lights at ground level to keep them going. People probably have torches and propane lamps and stuff as well. Yet Tifa was acting as if they were forcing some huge sacrifice on the Sector 4 grounders, rather than a minor inconvenience, at worst.

Anyway if Shinra's in charge of them, you can be damn sure their primary purpose isn't to make the lives of the people in the slums better. They're probably needed for surveillance or something.

 

[ForceStealer]

I think it's just to provide just the barest modicum of safety to the slums at nighttime. As I say, anywhere outside the actual settlements would be extremely dark without them. Ever been in thick enough of woods that they the canopy blocks the stars? And it would be a fairly easy bone to throw either to the complaints of slum dwellers, or more likely the wealthy plate dwellers that clearly go to the slums for a good time but then have to walk back to the train stations at night. Especially since they clearly didn't bother to provide enough power to leave them lit when maintenance was being performed.

 

[cold_spirit]

It's true that it's bright enough during the day in the slums without the lamps, but I don't think direct sunlight is able to hit every square inch of the undercity. Perhaps that's where the sun lamps come in. I interpreted them as a form of grow light.

 

[Tetsujin]

In chapter 6 Tifa calls the sun lamps "the closest thing we have to the real thing" so I mean

it's clearly meant for daytime

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

So, the daylight we see in the slums isn't really daylight, it's sunlamp substitute daylight?

 

[ForceStealer]

Well I mean they're obviously off during the day, so clearly they're not

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

So, they're off during the day, but Tifa says they're the closest thing they have to a real sun?

 

[ForceStealer]

Look up, in the daytime chapters they're not on, in the nighttime chapters they are.
Maybe, as Tets suggested, since the day chapters are largely timed for dawn and dusk when you can see the real sun, they're off but are turned on in the noontime.
Alternatively, it's for nighttime illumination and the name's a bit of a misnomer and they're just called sun lamps because it's a giant fricken lamp. Would hardly be the first time that's ever happened.

 

[Tetsujin]

Crisis Core seems to have lamps on during the day at least

The daylight seeping in on the edges of the plate being so overexposed also suggests the slums being much darker compared to the brightness levels beyond the plates

idk I guess my headcanon will just be "sun lights turn on and off dynamically depending on brightness levels during the day and nighttime illumination is less bright than daytime sun substitution mode"

 

[cold_spirit]

One thing that kind of bothers me is that my Play Log crown disappeared.

I had the crown on PS4, transfered my save to PS5 and bought the DLC, the crown disappeared presumably due to the addition of Weiss, defeated (and assessed) Weiss but the crown hasn't returned.

Perhaps the function to "crown" the Play Log is only executed when it's first completed, then some flag disables any further "crowning." If the devs forgot to reset that flag when saves are transferred or when the DLC is installed, then that crown will never reappear.

Has anyone completed the Play Log on a fresh PS5 playthrough? Did the crown appear or is it gone entirely? Furthermore, is Weiss part of the enemy intel before buying the Intermission DLC? Trying to determine if transferring saves or installing the DLC is the true culprit. So many questions but testing requires a whole new playthrough...

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PS5: