FINAL FANTASY 14

Max Payne

Banned
AKA
Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
SE said that they were satisfied with 11's success a while ago.

And fuck you tards and your remake bullshit. I have a good feeling about this.
 

Max Payne

Banned
AKA
Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
Okay, the PS3 IS fancy equipment, in my case, because I'm behind the times. D: But you know they always get you to spend more and more money on peripherals and nonsense when they can control your means of accessing what it really is you want to pay for! Like the last flight I took, they had satellite radio but charged you $2 for their cheap ass headphones with the special connection that fit into their special headphone jacks. Then they charge you like $3 for a bottle of water, $2 for a bag of chips, next they'll be charging for bathroom use because they know you're in the air and you can't do anything about it anyway. The PS3 could very easily become that airplane!

And Alex Strife, your info says you're 21. Tell your parents to shove it. You're old enough to spend your own money on whatever you want to spend it on, and old enough to have the means to do so. Time to cut the umbilical cord, buddy.

Our guild will be epic, though.

lolwat
 

I Am Not Me

The Mean Clack
AKA
Mei, Koibito, Stalker, Little Dude, Nami
Sorry, I'm just sourgraping because I don't have a PS3 and I'll probably never get one until a PS4 comes out. :awesome:
 

Channy

Bad Habit
AKA
Ruby Rose, Lucy
I'd dispute that.

1. Develop online game.
2. ???? Charge $9001/month for online play.
3. PROFIT!

I rebut your dispute.

The profit only depends on how many gamers they can get to sign up, and for how long gamers continue to play. I've known people to quit XI after two months because it wasn't worth it. The ability online to quit whenever you want makes it easy for people to duck out, and then try and resell it.

I don't have much hope for it tbh. Unless you can full customize the shit out of your character to a T something you can't always do with other MMOs, only then will I be impressed. :monster:
 

ForceStealer

Double Growth
But the thing is, was FFXI even that successful as an online game? I never heard too much about it, so I'm guessing not so much. D:

This won't bode well for FFXIV

It was the number one MMO on the market for the brief period before WoW was released. And it is still one of the top-played MMOs, way behind WoW of course, but still ahead of Eve and all those
 

Geostigma

Pro Adventurer
AKA
gabe
Yeah FFXI is actually a top dog in the P2P (pay to play) MMORPG world, its userbase is still strong. It pales in comparison to WoW but its still mahoosively huge and still at a steady rate of growing members.

The thing about mmorpgs is that even if just 100000 people get the game, thats 10000 people paying 15$+ a month for it ,and people who get addicted tend to play along time , often times starting over on new chars, accounts , ect just to keep playing till the next big update.
I for one have given something like 500$ in subscription fees to a mmorpg called DOFUS, and that one is just 6$ a month , i once interviewed a top dog in the dofus community (the leader of the strongest guild in all the servers) and asked him how much hes paid in subs , lets just say it was well over 1500$ iirc :P
Thats just a 6$ game , theres guys like this who just keep churning out cash for subs in mmoprgs to make them hits. If you want to be a rich developer MMORPGS are the way to go imo.

That said FFXI has an awesome userbase , in 2008 it had like 32 servers with 3000 max char limit per time on a server (that doesnt mean theres only 3000 players on the server it just means only 3000 can log in , then it fills up and doesnt allow others on).
So thats a minimum of 96000 people who pay the sub fees monthly , assuming the sub fees are 15$ (icba to look) 1440000$ a month.
Thats pretty damn great :monster:
 

CK

buried but breathing
AKA
CK, 2D, wanker
Yeah FFXI is actually a top dog in the P2P (pay to play) MMORPG world, its userbase is still strong. It pales in comparison to WoW but its still mahoosively huge and still at a steady rate of growing members.

The thing about mmorpgs is that even if just 100000 people get the game, thats 10000 people paying 15$+ a month for it ,and people who get addicted tend to play along time , often times starting over on new chars, accounts , ect just to keep playing till the next big update.
I for one have given something like 500$ in subscription fees to a mmorpg called DOFUS, and that one is just 6$ a month , i once interviewed a top dog in the dofus community (the leader of the strongest guild in all the servers) and asked him how much hes paid in subs , lets just say it was well over 1500$ iirc :P
Thats just a 6$ game , theres guys like this who just keep churning out cash for subs in mmoprgs to make them hits. If you want to be a rich developer MMORPGS are the way to go imo.

That said FFXI has an awesome userbase , in 2008 it had like 32 servers with 3000 max char limit per time on a server (that doesnt mean theres only 3000 players on the server it just means only 3000 can log in , then it fills up and doesnt allow others on).
So thats a minimum of 96000 people who pay the sub fees monthly , assuming the sub fees are 15$ (icba to look) 1440000$ a month.
Thats pretty damn great :monster:

Get back on dofus. I started playing again. The person I gave my account to tried to turn me into a vuln whore and used my wis scrolls on himself. Fucking cunt.

But yeah i've spent about the same as gabe on dofus.
 

I Am Not Me

The Mean Clack
AKA
Mei, Koibito, Stalker, Little Dude, Nami
Maybe it's just in my country then. :monster: We have all kinds of MMORPGs here, but I never heard FFXI being one of the most played.

In fact, I don't even know anyone here who's ever played this game. DDD;


Demmit, I'm starting to hate this n00b country. I'm moving to America or Japan as soon as possible.

Oh and I'm making it my goal to grow up and work for Square-Enix. :awesome:
 

Geostigma

Pro Adventurer
AKA
gabe
Maybe it's just in my country then. :monster: We have all kinds of MMORPGs here, but I never heard FFXI being one of the most played.

In fact, I don't even know anyone here who's ever played this game. DDD;


Demmit, I'm starting to hate this n00b country. I'm moving to America or Japan as soon as possible.

Oh and I'm making it my goal to grow up and work for Square-Enix. :awesome:

You from korea?The land of infinite F2P games that are miniwows?
@ck thinking of it :P
 

CK

buried but breathing
AKA
CK, 2D, wanker
Ok i'll ask now. Do you have any chance scroll (all types) mats and powerful wis scrolls? Some fucker took 31 of my powerful wis scrolls.
 

Lelouch

--Tamashi no Rufuran
AKA
Emiya Shirou, Oz Vessalius, LPod, Belldandy, L-Phone
^^ she's from Philippines.

Mei, yah.. :O MMORPGs here are great. but n00bish..co'z we don't even have FF onlines to play!! darn..i haven't even played FFXI yet T_T
 

Lelouch

--Tamashi no Rufuran
AKA
Emiya Shirou, Oz Vessalius, LPod, Belldandy, L-Phone
i used to play dofus. :monster: it's a phail :O i can't even go to different places and such..i have to subscribe first :O
 

Geostigma

Pro Adventurer
AKA
gabe
Sorry pal , all my chance scrolls went to falisha and chance equips went to valfreze , i got enough stuff to scroll 50 str though :monster:
 

CK

buried but breathing
AKA
CK, 2D, wanker
I'm not str anymore. And i'm almost set for chance gear til mopy king set. mopy is so badass.
 

CK

buried but breathing
AKA
CK, 2D, wanker
i used to play dofus. :monster: it's a phail :O i can't even go to different places and such..i have to subscribe first :O

its almost impossible to start dofus these days. it's so lameeee. But it gets good once you're 120+
 

Lelouch

--Tamashi no Rufuran
AKA
Emiya Shirou, Oz Vessalius, LPod, Belldandy, L-Phone
lulz..:monster: it's impossible for me to reach 120+, since i don't even play it anymore . I'm happy with my new MMORPG
 

Lelouch

--Tamashi no Rufuran
AKA
Emiya Shirou, Oz Vessalius, LPod, Belldandy, L-Phone
yeah..*cries* even if our MMORPGs are better than other countries' :(
 

Ⓐaron

Factiō Rēpūblicāna dēlenda est.
AKA
The Man, V
I rebut your dispute.

The profit only depends on how many gamers they can get to sign up, and for how long gamers continue to play. I've known people to quit XI after two months because it wasn't worth it. The ability online to quit whenever you want makes it easy for people to duck out, and then try and resell it.
thing is, though, that the ones who do stick with it end up pumping a ton of money into it. So yeah, maybe a lot of them only play for one or two months, but that's probably only half of the players. If everyone plays an average of six months at $10 per month, then that's $60 of subscription fees per user in addition to the probably ~$20 they pocketed from the initial game sale (after you deduct what goes to resellers etc.). And even if they resell the game, whoever buys it ends up paying $10 a month as well. So yeah, they don't have to move nearly as many units to make a hefty profit off the game, so it doesn't really matter if sales pale in comparison to FFXIII and FFXV (when it comes out), since that's not where the real profit is made.

In addition, Gabe's post is a good one.
 

Channy

Bad Habit
AKA
Ruby Rose, Lucy
Yeah, that's true, but I just don't understand why they would use another main installment as just another online game. Why not make a whole new online game? Or create more expansion packs for the pre-existing FF online game?

I was irked enough as it is when they released FF XI, when it simply could have been titled FF Online. And now another Online game? Why? What could they possibly do in a new Online game they couldn't in XI besides give a new name to this world? Anything that could be accessible to an online game they should have made for XI.

bah, ramblings of a McWorker... sleepytime now.
 

Nocturne

Watching Thee From The Moon
AKA
Just Nocturne will do
ugh Im really sick of the online versions in the main series, and just in general. I have no time to MMORPG, so it just means thats another main FF I have to miss out on.
 

Hinata Hyuga

wallflower
AKA
Juniper, Rinali, Legretta
If my siblings buy it then I will play it. I'll be homeschooling when school starts back up, and I will probably finish early(at least way earlier than in public).

I'll have the most time to put into it! :headbang:
 
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Ravynne Nevyrmore

that one Lucrecia fangirl
AKA
Ravynne
Dacon said:
DON'T MAKE FUN OF MY TIN FOIL HAT.


Nocturne said:
ugh Im really sick of the online versions in the main series, and just in general. I have no time to MMORPG, so it just means thats another main FF I have to miss out on.
I wouldn't really consider an MMO to be a "main FF" though. Something worth "missing out on" has main characters and a story that is, at least to some degree, linear. In all the MMOs I've played (read: 4 of them), they try to make every player the "main character" and all story comes from quests that you choose to do or choose not to do. They can try to change that basic formula, try to make it "more immersive," but ultimately there is no character development, no plot twists, no climax, no denouement, no romance, no drama, and no permanent death or loss of any kind. And no permanent change at all, for that matter. It's just a fun game to play while hanging out with your friends online—not that that's necessarily a bad thing.
 
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