FINAL FANTASY 14
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Akemmi
Cetra
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- xAkemmix
I'm all for a TLS guild/clan though
Yup, that would be awesome, another way to play Final Fantasy and be on TLS at the same time. yey!
Geostigma
Pro Adventurer
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- gabe
Though i agree with your sentiment on naming i disagree with your idea on why they couldnt add new content to just the old FFXI.
Ill use the MMORPG i play as an example, currently the devs are taking there sweet ass time to revamp the entire game (everymap , class, item ,equip,building) in AS3 not only to make it look better but to also fix some preexisting bugs from AS format(action script), things like certain classes unable to use mounts during a fight , to invisible walls glitching a battle. In order for them to continue to add new content they will have to wait till dofus 2.0 to be released just so they dont encounter new bugs to fix till the new release.
The same could be happening for FFXIV, maybe theres just some stuff the XI engine can not handle and they want to move forward already, its not uncommon for a company to run 2 or more MMORPGs, plus maybe XIV will finally add inovation to the bland and repetitive sea of addictive crack laced shit that is the MMORPG genre.
Raquelborn
"I slice your ass in 4."
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- Raq, Raquel.
If they did what Cabal has done then I'd be interested. (Which was to have it P2P at first but then make it F2P after a couple of years and reap profit off all the hooverboards, epaulettes and cool items you can buy in the 'cash shop').
And also if, like Cabal, they made the levelling up less of a chore so that you have more time doing quests and upgrading your equipment (which always makes me feel good lol) than killing monsters by your lonesome.
As far as I've been told about FFXI, it was an epic fail, it's boring in that it's no better than any other MMO out there and it doesn't live up to the standard you'd expect from a Final Fantasy title. In which case I may skip over FFXIV unless I hear major praise for it.
And also if, like Cabal, they made the levelling up less of a chore so that you have more time doing quests and upgrading your equipment (which always makes me feel good lol) than killing monsters by your lonesome.
As far as I've been told about FFXI, it was an epic fail, it's boring in that it's no better than any other MMO out there and it doesn't live up to the standard you'd expect from a Final Fantasy title. In which case I may skip over FFXIV unless I hear major praise for it.
Geostigma
Pro Adventurer
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- gabe
Gross Cash Shops may be great for a company but there epic fail for players, wheres the fun in leveling up and working for your items when you can just buy them for real life cash , or buy double exp rates for an hour?
I cant stand MMORPG's with cash shops, absolutely no skill is needed if you just throw cash at it.
Leveling up in an MMORPG is supposed to be a chore , thats why its called grinding levels
In DOFUS the first player to hit max level (200) didnt make it untill well into the 2nd (or was it 3rd?) year after the game was released. Thats because the exp needed to go from 199 to 200 is the exact amount needed to go from 1 to 199 (so basically when you hit 200 your more like level 400
)What MMORPG isnt different? Even WoW is exactly the same as any other MMORPG, the genre hasnt changed one bit since ultima online and evercrack.
In MMORPG standards though , it was good and even then multitulds better then all those korean MMORPG's that are f2p with cash shops left and right.
The guys at S-E aren't idiots, you know. If FFXI is an "epic fail" like you said, they wouldn't continue doing MMORPGs. Because they want to gain money, not lose it.
FFXIV's release is just the proof that FFXI IS working, and giving them money.
And in the language of business, money = success, while in the language of MMORPGs, money = lots of people playing and enjoying it.
It isn't an "epic fail" at all.
Ravynne Nevyrmore
that one Lucrecia fangirl
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- Ravynne
QFT.Lunasea said:
Additionally, I'd much rather every person playing the game pay $15 a month than pay nothing a month myself while others pour lots of money into the game to totally wtfpwn my character and have no way to stand on the same ground as them unless I, too, pour paychecks upon paychecks into the game.
A game should reward you for what you put into your character in terms of effort, not in terms of IRL money.
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Max Payne
Banned
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- Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
Raquelborn
"I slice your ass in 4."
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- Raq, Raquel.
Like I said this is what I've been told by other's who regularly play MMOs, "epic fail" are not my words. Obviously it isn't an epic fail in terms of profit for SE, but apparently FFXI is nothing special and considering FF titles are usually expected to be the cream of the crop I guess that's what they were referring to.
Gross Cash Shops may be great for a company but there epic fail for players, wheres the fun in leveling up and working for your items when you can just buy them for real life cash , or buy double exp rates for an hour?
I cant stand MMORPG's with cash shops, absolutely no skill is needed if you just throw cash at it.
Leveling up in an MMORPG is supposed to be a chore , thats why its called grinding levels
In DOFUS the first player to hit max level (200) didnt make it untill well into the 2nd (or was it 3rd?) year after the game was released. Thats because the exp needed to go from 199 to 200 is the exact amount needed to go from 1 to 199 (so basically when you hit 200 your more like level 400
Well maybe we're disagreeing here because I play MMOs for the fun of quests, following the (albeit usually pretty crap) storyline and meeting other players. I don't enjoy grinding for days upon days to go up a level when I'm still under level 50. Once it gets to that stage I get pretty bored, but hey, that's just me. I HATE grinding my ass off.
Besides that's not the only reason I like Cabal, it's also gorgeous to look at - look at dem skillz sequences.
Fair enough, I just wouldn't know, I've just gone by what others have told me. But for the record I found WoW pretty interesting compared to other MMOs I've played because it has a lot of character. Many of them just lack it, like watching paint dry in the hope you'll suddenly find it fun.
Makoeyes987
Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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- Smooth Criminal
That's subjective nonsense, especially considering if FFXI wasn't "epic" there wouldn't be the high member base and acclaim it gets from fans and critics alike. It's highly successful and certainly a Final Fantasy Square is proud of. To say otherwise is denying reality.
Munatik
Beacause I am a puppet
Raquelborn said:
I take issue with this mainly because you ought to reserve the judgments until you can speak for yourself. Your friends may have thought it sucked, but who's to say you wouldn't have found it enjoyable?
And really, the most fun thing about MMO's is having the friends to play it with. Either for leveling together, raiding together, or pvping together. That's when grinding becomes less of a chore, raiding less of an exercise in herding cats, and pvp less of a giant clusterfuck. That's what I'm looking forward to in FFXIV, because lord knows it will be a mind-blowingly gorgeous world to hang out in.
Makoeyes987
Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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- Smooth Criminal
Seriously, most people know fuck all about FFXI and then try to say it sucks or isn't worth it, when they've never played it or even researched it themselves at all. FFXI has been a huge success with a very live fanbase and the sad thing is, is its that ignorance which has caused FFXI fandom to be somewhat ostracized and ignored by the rest of FF fandom as a whole.
FFXI's main flaw is its difficulty in terms of enemies and level up. It's a hard game, no one denies that. But it still has a damn good story, mythos, and gameplay thats kept it alive for seven years. Seven strong years.
FFXI's main flaw is its difficulty in terms of enemies and level up. It's a hard game, no one denies that. But it still has a damn good story, mythos, and gameplay thats kept it alive for seven years. Seven strong years.
Could be wrong. 
NoenGaruth
That Guy With The Midgar Model
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- NoenGaruth, Stolz, Blitzwing, Ryoko Asakura, Judge Magister Gabranth, Col. Hans Landa, Itsuki Koizumi, Treize Khushrenada
Yes it will be online and for the PS3, also probably PC too.
Celes Chere
Banned
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- Noctis
Wow, what a shock. hm.
Yay, I guess.
Yay, I guess.
Ⓐaron
Factiō Rēpūblicāna dēlenda est.
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- The Man, V
I should add that this game isn't really much of a new announcement; they'd announced they were working on an MMO a long time ago, so long I actually lost track. The only real news here besides the trailers is that it's a numbered Final Fantasy title. So it probably won't affect launch date of the next non-online main series FF entry after FFXIII at all.
If enough people on TLS actually get into this, I might actually be arsed with it. I've never bothered with MMOs before.
If enough people on TLS actually get into this, I might actually be arsed with it. I've never bothered with MMOs before.
Channy
Bad Habit
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- Ruby Rose, Lucy
I only ever bothered with one MMO and just because it was free. I'm afraid I'll either get way too addicted way too quickly, or severely pissed because it doesn't meet my expectations right away and I have no patience for things that take a while to show promise.