Final Fantasy XIII-2 (Spoiler Thread)

[Bex]

GODDAMNIT I MISSED IT

 

[Zee]

Aw, I was hoping multiple endings would actually be multiple endings for doing things differently and not some stupid "do all side missions" thing. :/

Yeah I kinda wish it depended more on your path choices/dialogue options but I can understand why fixing all the timey wimey stuff would lead to a better ending in this case. still tho... ;;

I'm trying to piece it together but Yuel is related to Etro in some way, and I think Etro's corrupt? Or something. I was trying to figure it out because it seemed like Caius was really just trying to protect the timeline from everyone else fucking it up.

 

[Arianna]

What happened to Snow after all? He just disappears?

That ending is like a horror story - seeing Lightning as she is.

I'm confused though: Does this game retcon what they are saying that Barthandelus is not Lindzei? Now he is Lindzei? Someone said they got it wrong when they said yes to this. ?!?!?!?!?!

Anyhow...

So Etro's evil? What is the point of all of this? Anyone figure that one out yet?

The only speculation I have about the game + is that Noel has to go back and do it all over again - this time hopefully with a different result.

How are the multiple endings working out? If you do all the side quests or not? Please explain...

 

[Zee]

I'm gonna assuming it's recording (it says LIVE with the red button flashing a few times so I guess)! Not sure if they are gonna push through to the end tonight or not though (they're on the last chapter).

The only speculation I have about the game + is that Noel has to go back and do it all over again - this time hopefully with a different result.

Well, I think Noel and Caius were to protect Yuel who has some connection to the goddess/some goddess power in their crapsack world. Yuel dies and Noel wants to go back and prevent it from happening. But doing so just causes a paradox so Yuel literally dies every time you see her until Noel can just let it go.

 

[Arianna]

Well, I think Noel and Caius were to protect Yuel who has some connection to the goddess/some goddess power in their crapsack world. Yuel dies and Noel wants to go back and prevent it from happening. But doing so just causes a paradox so Yuel literally dies every time you see her until Noel can just let it go.

This Yuel is the same Yuel as in the analects, right? I guess she left some type of note behind in whatever time that analect (those analects?) were from.

Anyhow...

Someone in the live thread just said that Caius (who is Chaos Bahamut, who is guarding of the timeline - or a guardian) is the one holding Etro back... ??? If this is true, she wants to take everything with her?!

I am interested in Yuel, to get back to her real quick. She doesn't seem human - she walks oddly. Also that crystal in the middle of her upper chest...???

Going back to Etro - Lightning looked only mostly crystalized in that scene. Her upper torso and head looked non-crystal. I wonder if she's trapped that way? Maybe I'm just seeing it wrong.

This game is both weird and has become more intriguing. I can't wait until we get the official English version. I want answers! Which yeah - SE is not very forthcoming with.

What was this about Buniberzei at the end? Where Chaos Bahamut is defeated and Serah and Noel head back through the gateway to the new Cocoon... ???

Oh yeah - all of that trouble just to remake a new Cocoon??? Really. Really? I find that ridiculous and lazy. Seriously.

I. Want. Game. Badly!!!

 

[Splintered]

Yeah I thought Yuel is the same Yuel from the past. But there's definitely some kind of connection because I saw a flashback to Noel and Yuel happily skipping in a field of flowers or something.

I'm confused though: Does this game retcon what they are saying that Barthandelus is not Lindzei? Now he is Lindzei? Someone said they got it wrong when they said yes to this. ?!?!?!?!?!

Anyhow...

So Etro's evil? What is the point of all of this? Anyone figure that one out yet?

I think whoever said that was misinformed, I know some people in the channel said that Lindzei=Bart was confirmed in the ultimania but the opposite happened.

Etros being evil is... unexpected. I dunno.

 

[Zee]

I'm not sure if Etro is truly evil, but gods usually work in their own favor whether or not it benefits mortals.

What I'm more upset about it Lightning basically being a slave for Etro when she fought so hard for her own fate before. Unless it's okay now because she's serving a hot lady goddess idk

 

[Splintered]

It never made sense to me that Lightning would serve under Etros in any way just because she seems to get pissed when someone tells her what to do. My only way to reason with it is that Etros was pro humanity and the reason why they are all not statues right now.

But everyone is suggesting Etros is playing the manipulative bitch when I can see. Or Muin is being manipulative, idk.

 

[Zee]

^ Yeah, it seems she set up/manipulated Lightning to trust her so she could storm into Pulse.

i wish i understood japanese sigh

 

[Arianna]

Alright - I demand a full and uncensored (well, depending on what it is) telling of what the heck is going on in the world of the gods!!!

I want to see Pulse and Lindzei. I want to see why Barthandelus and Lindzei are both credited with Cocoon. I want to know the deal with Muin and Buniberzei. I want all the complete story!!!

Damn it SE - release the secret documents!!! In picture form because I don't know Japanese and Hito's been bugged enough by me.

But everyone is suggesting Etros is playing the manipulative bitch when I can see. Or Muin is being manipulative, idk.

Well, Muin and Buniberzei were fighting... Or Buniberzei killed her.

Maybe Muin wishes revenge? We never did get that part of


...


THE STORY I just begged to be told the details to.

 

[Splintered]

Well, Muin and Buniberzei were fighting... Or Buniberzei killed her.

Maybe Muin wishes revenge? We never did get that part of

Bunsdfklsd;fs didn't kill her, he ran her out to the invisible world. He wants to kill her because he thinks the world is doomed to die as long as she lives or something.

But you're right, no one really knows what Muin wants. It seems like she was a decent god because she was with Etros (who at the time was the good fal'cie) and talks a lot about maintaining balance if I recall correctly. But I think the mythology hints that she's dead. Or not.

 

[Arianna]

Okay, does anyone have a link to wear I can see Fang and Vanille in Serah's dream? Please? Thank you!!!

Bunsdfklsd;fs didn't kill her, he ran her out to the invisible world. He wants to kill her because he thinks the world is doomed to die as long as she lives or something.

But you're right, no one really knows what Muin wants. It seems like she was a decent god because she was with Etros (who at the time was the good fal'cie) and talks a lot about maintaining balance if I recall correctly. But I think the mythology hints that she's dead. Or not.

True. He didn't kill her and I said he did. It doesn't make sense though - one has to die to go to the invisible world. I am very confused. Still, he defeated her which left her for dead or whatever.

 

[Splintered]

Okay, does anyone have a link to wear I can see Fang and Vanille in Serah's dream? Please? Thank you!!!

There are two things on my wish list and that's

1. Fang-Vanille dream sequence and
2. Hope rejecting Alyssa.

Waiting for the youtube :'[

True. He didn't kill her and I said he did. It doesn't make sense though - one has to die to go to the invisible world. I am very confused. Still, he defeated her which left her for dead or whatever.

Oh well that actually makes sense if she can go to the invisible world and he can't because he doesn't want to die. But he is searching for Muin... because. I don't know. She should have spanked him more or something.

Also, who is in that stream chat. I know some of you are D< /is Colorslander

 

[Arianna]

I'm theholysummon.

 

[Splintered]

Has anybody notices that nobody uses synergist or saboteur roles in their game?

 

[Arianna]

Evil giraffes, purple dragons and Hogwarts of the future. Ooooooh my.

 

[Splintered]

That guy was getting absolutely stomped by the giraffes. He brought out syns and sabs once though, but didn't do it again. Maybe the roles were nerfed or something. Or the crystium system doesn't allow for a lot of incentives to grow them, idk. I remember hating never having haste.

I'm really liking this location though, it's gorgeous.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

So, that ending with Serah dying was quite the downer, huh?

Wish that song would have fucked off, though. Would have been a lot heavier with some atmosphere.

Bunsdfklsd;fs didn't kill her, he ran her out to the invisible world. He wants to kill her because he thinks the world is doomed to die as long as she lives or something.

I took the bit about him defeating Muin as meaning he killed her. She was said to have disappeared into the unseen world at that point, and it seems like everyone else who ends up there died to get there (e.g. Etro).

The part about Buniberzei believing the world is doomed to die because of Muin seems to have come up after he defeated her. Seems he initially attacked her because he wanted control of the world, and then wanted to find her in the unseen world because he thought she cursed the visible world when he beat her:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwFlVr6ceXg

If I'm following things correctly.

 

[Shakarian]

Guess who I just saw in Teakdoc's live stream?

It's not part of the ending though, unfortunately. They show up in Serah's dream.

 

[Bex]

unf

 

[Arianna]

Any new endings seen? Tell all, and links.

Guess who I just saw in Teakdoc's live stream?

It's not part of the ending though, unfortunately. They show up in Serah's dream.

Tell me everything!

LINKS!?!?!?

Thank you.

 

[Shakarian]

Any new endings seen? Tell all, and links.

Tell me everything!

LINKS!?!?!?

Thank you.

No new endings yet, all the live streamers seem to have gotten the bad ending. I think one of them is replaying to get a better ending.

I saw it on Teakdoc's channel earlier. IIRC, he was playing through a dream segment with Serah, and Fang and Vanille appear at the end to free her from the dream world. I think he's replaying parts of the game just now, so the videos will probably be divided into parts at some point.

 

[Splintered]

Has anybody seen Rygdea? One of the only NPCs I really liked in XIII D: He was confirmed alive at the end of the game, right?

 

[Alex Strife]

This game's weird.

And I'm going to be pissed if we have to do all the missiosn to get the true ending. It'll be like spending 120+ hours for the true ending. Which sucks.

I know this will sound quite the "b'aaaww-ing", but FFXIII was way too linear, and this is way too non-linear. It's crazy.

I've been ignoring information about this game and now I'm starting to be interested again...

 

[Zee]

And I'm going to be pissed if we have to do all the missiosn to get the true ending.

well....like...what do you expect lol

to get the good ending you gotta put some effort into it!
i hear the order you choose to go into the gates also effects the outcome?

but yeah i'm all for 120+ hours of gameplay and replay value, which the first game seriously lacked.