Final Fantasy XIII-2
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Blade
That Man
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So, like...does this mean Serah's engagement with him is off for good?
Side note: bizarre as this may sound...if Serah is a time-traveller, and her name is the same as a certain "Princess Serah" (FF1)...how she ended up with a Lute to unlock the Chaos Temple would make more sense...
Side note: bizarre as this may sound...if Serah is a time-traveller, and her name is the same as a certain "Princess Serah" (FF1)...how she ended up with a Lute to unlock the Chaos Temple would make more sense...
Marle
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I'm really curious about this DLC. I hope it answers some things about what he did and why he did it.
Also, this DLC will either seal the deal for Serah/Snow or completely obliterate it. I have my own theories. I mean, the last we left off with them, it was on the rocks. I don't doubt their feelings are still of love but I think it would be sort of pointless to just rehash the fact that they love one another? I think it would be better to see more of Serah's suppressed anger at him for leaving her and Snow's defense on the matter. Also, why he lied to her.
I won't lie; I'm hoping they sink it because I just...don't like that ship at all, especially after how Snow acts in the sequel. Maybe he can redeem himself in this DLC but I can't see it.
I think Zee brought up a good point in regards to their relationship; they seem to be together out of obligation and because she was going to die and maybe they rushed into things. And now...I don't know. Serah did say how leaving someone behind is not something she likes and. That is what Snow did, despite his intentions.
And then the title, "Don't fight for me". It doesn't seem very...romantic? Or like they are going to fix things? But idk, it could go either way I guess. Too early to tell.
Either way, Serah is still dead so I don't see where this is going. I read a neat theory about how she'll be like Yuel and be reborn as a different version of herself. And who knows what that would do to the story.
Anywho, no matter what, I will still prefer Noerah because of reasons. Canon really doesn't bother me much. but it will suck after square dangled it in front of us for an entire game ;-;
I won't lie; I'm hoping they sink it because I just...don't like that ship at all, especially after how Snow acts in the sequel. Maybe he can redeem himself in this DLC but I can't see it.
I think Zee brought up a good point in regards to their relationship; they seem to be together out of obligation and because she was going to die and maybe they rushed into things. And now...I don't know. Serah did say how leaving someone behind is not something she likes and. That is what Snow did, despite his intentions.
And then the title, "Don't fight for me". It doesn't seem very...romantic? Or like they are going to fix things? But idk, it could go either way I guess. Too early to tell.
Either way, Serah is still dead so I don't see where this is going. I read a neat theory about how she'll be like Yuel and be reborn as a different version of herself. And who knows what that would do to the story.
Anywho, no matter what, I will still prefer Noerah because of reasons. Canon really doesn't bother me much.
Splintered
unsavory tart
lol, I'm the exact opposite of you lol, I'm Snow/Serah and I actually don't see that ship ever sinking. I dunno.
I think it'll explore Snow's issues and problems for doing the same shit he did in XIII and putting himself in danger. Although imo, I think "Don't Fight For Me" is less for Serah than Vanille and Fang- he's doing it for Serah yes, but Lightning, Vanille, and Fang are all important people to him. He goes out searching for Lightning, and because he believes in Serah he believes Lightning is alive- and seeing as how they interacted in the first game it would make sense he would go to find her. Also Fang and Vanille because Fang actually says she doesn't want Snow fighting for her.
I don't think Snow/Serah is suppose to eclipse other relationships so even if that's the couple I support, I hope it's also about his relationship with other characters.
But even with my Snow/Serah rant, oh god I hope this doesn't kick up the war and S/S wangst again. I feel like all the fans are finally get sick of nitpicking at each others fans and it's finally dying down.
But I'm really happy he's getting his own episode. His story does seem interesting and if he's also going through time and working to save the world, I want to see what he's doing. We know what's going on with Sazh, even if it doesn't explain everything, and Hope. I just hope it isn't annoying, I like Snow much better in XIII-2, but if I have to play as Snow XIII HEROHEROHERO it's going to bug me.
I think it'll explore Snow's issues and problems for doing the same shit he did in XIII and putting himself in danger. Although imo, I think "Don't Fight For Me" is less for Serah than Vanille and Fang- he's doing it for Serah yes, but Lightning, Vanille, and Fang are all important people to him. He goes out searching for Lightning, and because he believes in Serah he believes Lightning is alive- and seeing as how they interacted in the first game it would make sense he would go to find her. Also Fang and Vanille because Fang actually says she doesn't want Snow fighting for her.
I don't think Snow/Serah is suppose to eclipse other relationships so even if that's the couple I support, I hope it's also about his relationship with other characters.
But even with my Snow/Serah rant, oh god I hope this doesn't kick up the war and S/S wangst again. I feel like all the fans are finally get sick of nitpicking at each others fans and it's finally dying down.
But I'm really happy he's getting his own episode. His story does seem interesting and if he's also going through time and working to save the world, I want to see what he's doing. We know what's going on with Sazh, even if it doesn't explain everything, and Hope. I just hope it isn't annoying, I like Snow much better in XIII-2, but if I have to play as Snow XIII HEROHEROHERO it's going to bug me.
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Marle
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Yeah, I don't know if they will actually sink it. And no worries, I'm not gonna bare my claws because OMG HOW DARE YOU DISAGREE WITH ME WHAT.
I hope they do explore Snow's issues and wtf he was thinking when he did what he did because seriously, it warrants an explanation.
Tbh, if they did focus more on him and his relationships with the others, I'd like it a lot more, too. One of the many things I don't like about Snow is how he doesn't shut up about Serah. @_@ I know that sounds mean but...it got really annoying in FF13. Some people find it endearing and that's fine. But I just didn't. :T
It would be cool to see if he really did venture off on his own for the others, as well.
I actually agree with a lot of what you said, Splintered. Shipping preferences aside.
I hope they do explore Snow's issues and wtf he was thinking when he did what he did because seriously, it warrants an explanation.
Tbh, if they did focus more on him and his relationships with the others, I'd like it a lot more, too. One of the many things I don't like about Snow is how he doesn't shut up about Serah. @_@ I know that sounds mean but...it got really annoying in FF13. Some people find it endearing and that's fine. But I just didn't. :T
It would be cool to see if he really did venture off on his own for the others, as well.
I actually agree with a lot of what you said, Splintered. Shipping preferences aside.
Celesta
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I think Snow/Serah will always be canon. I sincerely believe in leaving Serah to search for Lightning he was doing what he believed in his heart was best for her even though its fair to view it as a questionable decision.
This is only a video game but isn't it the case that in life sometimes relationships experience trials? That is all this is. It's given that they love each other. Maybe there is the matter of miscommunication but I look forward to seeing how this is resolved (if at all). People are all over Noel/Serah because we get to witness their relationship develop through the game and we experience the chemistry they have together. This is contrary to Snow/Serah, a pairing we were just force-fed in the original game without even learning much about how they came to be lovers. Oh. And he happens to be very tall and well built; Serah just looks too small for him. I know not all people feel this way but I keep on reading this excuse over and over again.
Snow isn't a huge jerk. He may come across as such because of his delivery but he's a good natured guy. I mean, this is when I really regret that fact that the Fragment's Before Novel was never made available to english speaking fans. He's really sweet to Serah in the novel, at least in her chapter. I cannot speak much about the chapter which focuses on Snow's decision to leave New Bodhum and encounter with a falcie.
This is only a video game but isn't it the case that in life sometimes relationships experience trials? That is all this is. It's given that they love each other. Maybe there is the matter of miscommunication but I look forward to seeing how this is resolved (if at all). People are all over Noel/Serah because we get to witness their relationship develop through the game and we experience the chemistry they have together. This is contrary to Snow/Serah, a pairing we were just force-fed in the original game without even learning much about how they came to be lovers. Oh. And he happens to be very tall and well built; Serah just looks too small for him. I know not all people feel this way but I keep on reading this excuse over and over again.
Snow isn't a huge jerk. He may come across as such because of his delivery but he's a good natured guy. I mean, this is when I really regret that fact that the Fragment's Before Novel was never made available to english speaking fans. He's really sweet to Serah in the novel, at least in her chapter. I cannot speak much about the chapter which focuses on Snow's decision to leave New Bodhum and encounter with a falcie.
Splintered
unsavory tart
I'm just super excited for story dlc that pertains to the old characters. Hope's one of my favorite characters but at least we get to see him in the game
Sazh
Then Snow
Then Lightning
And in my sweet dreams, Vanille and Fang story- WAR OF TRANSGRESSION why would you not do this.
Because it's shipping, you bastards, shut up and look at the fanart.
Sazh
Then Snow
Then Lightning
And in my sweet dreams, Vanille and Fang story- WAR OF TRANSGRESSION why would you not do this.
Oh god I'm so tired of this from my own fandom, "HOW CAN YOU SUPPORT ADULTERY!?"
Because it's shipping, you bastards, shut up and look at the fanart.
Zee
wangxian married
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- Zee
I think it could go either way tbh. I don't think they'd sink Snow/Serah, but then again, I also thought they'd be married, that their reunion would have been more romantic, and I sure didn't expect Noel and Serah's relationship to be anything like it was. esp with even the npcs going WINK WINK AREN'T YOU TWO A CUTE COUPLE WINK square this is not how you discourage shipping
I hate Snow and the ship but I would appreciate them addressing some of the issues in that relationship -- like Serah being upset at Snow's casual attitude after she worried so much over him but swallowing it down. Giving it some depth outside of the shallow hero complex/hero worship is welcome.
however noel/serah will always be the most kawaii pairing that will never change /blows raspberries
also does anyone else think it's fucking stupid they made him an attacker not a sen??? LIKE WHAT LOGIC IS THIS
I hate Snow and the ship but I would appreciate them addressing some of the issues in that relationship -- like Serah being upset at Snow's casual attitude after she worried so much over him but swallowing it down. Giving it some depth outside of the shallow hero complex/hero worship is welcome.
however noel/serah will always be the most kawaii pairing that will never change /blows raspberries
also does anyone else think it's fucking stupid they made him an attacker not a sen??? LIKE WHAT LOGIC IS THIS
Alex Strife
Ex-SOLDIER
The problem with the Japanese is one that has to be understood. Reunions are never romantic in the same way you'd see here. Hugging and kissing and any stuff you'd do in western places. They have a tought time with that. It's considered rather rude to act like that in front of others. So they'd never have them act like that if there's another character nearby.
And even if there wasn't, WE are nearby, as an audience. So they would probably not want to show them being too effusive, since FF is mainstream. If it was an obscure game that didn't get as much attention, there would be a chance. But it's not the case.
To be honest, this is something of an issue for me. I consider myself to be an emotional person, so when I see people reuniting on videogames, and standing ten feet away from each other and being like "Hey how have you been doing?" even though they have been searching for each other for long periods of time, it bothers me. But I still understand why this is happening.
I mean, c'mon. If FFVII, and especially FFVIII or FFX had been American productions, we would have seen more stuff from their characters, if you know what I mean. Not necessarily on-screen, but things would have been implied.
And even if there wasn't, WE are nearby, as an audience. So they would probably not want to show them being too effusive, since FF is mainstream. If it was an obscure game that didn't get as much attention, there would be a chance. But it's not the case.
To be honest, this is something of an issue for me. I consider myself to be an emotional person, so when I see people reuniting on videogames, and standing ten feet away from each other and being like "Hey how have you been doing?" even though they have been searching for each other for long periods of time, it bothers me. But I still understand why this is happening.
I mean, c'mon. If FFVII, and especially FFVIII or FFX had been American productions, we would have seen more stuff from their characters, if you know what I mean. Not necessarily on-screen, but things would have been implied.
Arianna
Holy, Personified
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I agree.
Zee
wangxian married
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- Zee
serah had no problems glomp hugging snow and holding hands at the end of xiii i don't see what the problem is after not seeing someone for THREE YEARS not even a hug like goddamn???????? that's cold like
hey i didn't know if you were dead or alive
so let's punch flan maybe
hey i didn't know if you were dead or alive
so let's punch flan maybe
Splintered
unsavory tart
Snow/Serah didn't seem to mind pda in the first game- actually no one did, IDK, this game was weird about it.
Didn't even get a Lightning-Serah hug even when it's been years.
Didn't even get a Lightning-Serah hug even when it's been years.
Zee
wangxian married
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- Zee
the guys turned away because it was rude to look at her ass in front of her girlfriend but other than that they had no problem with the physical affection fang and vanille always touched each other
even hope grabs vanille's hand and lightning hugs hope those are friend/maternal things but obv touching was not anything squicky or taboo to anyone on that team
jeez i just realized snow wrapped his arm around noel so basically noel got more physical affection from snow than serah goddamn
even hope grabs vanille's hand and lightning hugs hope those are friend/maternal things but obv touching was not anything squicky or taboo to anyone on that team
jeez i just realized snow wrapped his arm around noel so basically noel got more physical affection from snow than serah goddamn
looneymoon
they/them
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- Rishi
did sora like break down crying when he found riku in kh2
while rubbing his face against his crotch
IDK MAN
while rubbing his face against his crotch
IDK MAN
Celes Chere
Banned
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- Noctis
Then he groped his ass and gave him an arms around the neck hug in dream drop
Sora doesn't fuck around
Alex Strife
Ex-SOLDIER
I think you guys are missing the point, with all that shipping and whatnot 
Strangelove
AI Researcher
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Splintered
unsavory tart
Celes Chere
Banned
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CRY MORE HITO