Final Fantasy XIII-2

Celesta

Pro Adventurer
Apparently some did find XIII hard to follow; I initially found it difficult because until I read the datalog to develop a fuller understanding of the mythology behind the game.
Also, have not played the game myself so I would like to keep an open mind until then of course.
 

Strangelove

AI Researcher
AKA
hitoshura
I think the fact that it pretty much throws you in at the deep end story-wise can be confusing. They keep throwing around words like l'Cie and fal'Cie and Pulse and Purge and Focus, which you need to go and read the database about to get a proper understanding.


Going back to a post a while back: when they said that Valhalla was mentioned in the first game, it was talking about the 'Invisible World' references. Apparently that's another name for Valhalla.
 

Arianna

Holy, Personified
AKA
Katie; Seta.
Going back to a post a while back: when they said that Valhalla was mentioned in the first game, it was talking about the 'Invisible World' references. Apparently that's another name for Valhalla.

Well,
Valhalla is actually inbetween the seen and the unseen worlds, but is ever steadily moving towards the unseen
.
 

Strangelove

AI Researcher
AKA
hitoshura
I don't know if that's something from the game itself, I was basing this on the little world-introduction pages of Fragments Before :monster: The Invisible World is said not have any concept of time or physical form, but only Valhalla the city manages to retain a physical shape.
 

Celesta

Pro Adventurer
I think the fact that it pretty much throws you in at the deep end story-wise can be confusing. They keep throwing around words like l'Cie and fal'Cie and Pulse and Purge and Focus, which you need to go and read the database about to get a proper understanding.

Yes, this is the experience I had.

Also a question regarding: Would it be permissible to post scans of the recently released FFXIII-2 novel here?
 
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AvecAloes

Donator
Firstly: that outfit is stupid. Straight stupid. Secondly: I had a difficult time really following the story my first play through, so I'm making a real effort to follow and understand the story this play through.
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
The first time through there was some difficulty, mostly because the terminology. Also, there was a bit of a problem because 1. Dysley's continued trolling and lying to the characters (like he made us believe that Serah's focus was to bring them all together when in reality she just beat her focus) and an ending that did a terrible job of explaining things (like Lightning de-Ciething and then de-crystalizing).

Second time around things made much more sense. TBH, I don't understand how XIII-2 will be easier: Time travel stories rarely seem coherent to me.
 

Arianna

Holy, Personified
AKA
Katie; Seta.
The first time through there was some difficulty, mostly because the terminology. Also, there was a bit of a problem because 1. Dysley's continued trolling and lying to the characters (like he made us believe that Serah's focus was to bring them all together when in reality she just beat her focus) and an ending that did a terrible job of explaining things (like Lightning de-Ciething and then de-crystalizing).

I don't think Barthandelus lied. I get the feeling that there was some truth in that statement that Serah's focus was to bring them all together. Then again, beating a focus makes no sense to me.
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
I'm with the theory that Serah's focus was the same as Lightning and co. Vanille seems to suggest that it was the same (I think she implied it with her convo to her once) but it was never outright stated.

Cid managed to override/beat his focus in front of the party. That's why they wandered around Gran Pulse so long, to see if there's any information about being able to get rid of the l'cie brand. I think it's also implied that Fang beat her focus and changed it to one that centered around save Vanille. During the final battle, all of the party members have their cieth brand burn white after the "we'll never give up speech."

So I dunno. I always took it as humans being able to overcome their focus is they have enough willpower to, it made sense with the theme of the story. At least to me.

EDIT:
It's interesting how Noel's hatebase just transformed into a dedicated fanbase after the game. xD
 

Fangu

Great Old One
Also a question regarding: Would it be permissible to post scans of the recently released FFXIII-2 novel here?
If there are no game plot spoilers in the images, then please go ahead :) (I don't know what timeline that novel is from, so... but please don't post XIII-2 storyline references, that should be posted in the XIII-2 spoiler thread :))
 

Shakarian

dem titans
AKA
Palumpolum, Jack the Ripper, Colonel AI, laurash65, Re-L Mayer
New 'Characters' trailer posted on the SE blog. :monster:
 
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Lumina

a pokémon.
AKA
Bayleef, Jessica
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BRB KILLING MYSELF.
Now all it needs is a Snow face on a Forever Alone cartoon. dafkljdslkfjasdlkfj :awesome:
 

Fangu

Great Old One
Hey hey now, easy with story spoilers :(

I know characters being in it or not or how long they are in it probably isn't a spoiler for everyone... but it is for me :P

Kind regards, shit-scared-of-spoilers-lady
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
Sorry about that, I tried to keep it extremely vague so that it wouldn't be spoiler but yeah, I should know that some people don't like to know things like that. It's my bad.
 

Fangu

Great Old One
No drama :monster: I'm just over sensitive to spoilers. I think it's because I used to be the biggest spoiler whore ever (I always read the last pages of a book first) and I had to carefully teach myself to have patience and enjoy the whole work :P
 

Celesta

Pro Adventurer
Same for me as well. Jumping to the conclusion and/or forming expectations based on the experiences or accounts of others kind of diminishes my ability to have my own unique experience.
 

Fangu

Great Old One
On the one side: Boobies!

On the other side, it feels very, very wrong.
I'm starting to think you were goint to post a link to that article about the Lightning mod rip but forgot to put in the link...

Or is there just always boobies when you do stuff you feel guilty about?

Edit: Ah bikinis. Nevermind.
 

Celesta

Pro Adventurer
Modified from Final Fantasy wiki:
Final Fantasy XIII-2 Fragments Before is a full length novel which takes place immediately before the events of Final Fantasy XIII-2 and contains several stories revolving around characters such as Serah, Snow, Noel, and Rygdea and Bartholomew Estheim. It will be followed by the sequel "Fragments After"

Part 1: Imagnary and Real: Serah AF0
Part 2: Teacher & children: A story of the year AF3.
Part 3: Friend & foe: The story of Snow's departure and journey.
Part 4: Fair & Foul: The creation of a provisional government, and the secret history of the founding of the Academy.
Part 5: Someday & somewhere: The story of Noel's childhood.

Images and link to full document behind cut, no actual spoilers beneath:
PDF Document (either link may be used, same file)

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Zee

wangxian married
AKA
Zee
SE sales have been diminishing for a while now, that's not even news anymore.

But I doubt they'll stop their current projects.
 
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