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lithiumkatana17
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Supposedly there are a few spoilers out there for the next GoT episode, but I already the first one for myself, so I'm making a vow to stay away from that stuff unless the temptation is too great.
There IS however, a rampant amount of speculation as to a particular plot line that could start in the third episode tomorrow, so theories abound beneath the cut.
OH AND ONE MOAR THING:
Look at this picture:
Now look at this one:
There IS however, a rampant amount of speculation as to a particular plot line that could start in the third episode tomorrow, so theories abound beneath the cut.
To start off, here's the preview for the third episode:
It may be common knowledge at this point, depending on how much of a fan you are, but this preview left a lot of people wondering what 'gift' the Umbers (yes, it was the Umbers) were giving to Ramsay Bolton.
I'm 99.9% sure the 'gift' is Rickon Stark.
Where's the evidence that could support this? Well, when last we saw Rickon Stark, he, Osha, and Shaggydog were setting off for Last Hearth, the seat of House Umber in the North. In the books, the Umbers are a bit divided since the death of Robb Stark--half of them ally with Stannis and the other grudging swear fealty to the Boltons, because Smalljon is slain at the Red Wedding and Greatjon is still a captive of the Freys (along with Brynden 'The Blackfish' Tully and Edmure Tully, who we will definitely see this season).
So, assuming Rickon and co. made it to Last Hearth safely, it's not entirely implausible that they would offer up Rickon Stark as a hostage to Ramsay. The show may have chosen to simplify the issue of the Umber's loyalty by just making them ally with the Boltons for real.
Sansa took the place of Jeyne Poole in a version of the fake Arya subplot last season, and now that she and Theon have escaped and Ramsay assumes they've headed for Castle Black, he may actually still send Jon Snow a version of the Pink Letter from the books--only instead of claiming that he has Mance Rayder, he'll be claiming that he has Rickon Stark, and Jon will ride south to rescue his brother, as he tried to do in the books to rescue Jeyne Poole before he was assassinated.
I'm not sure how Osha or Shaggydog would fit into all this, because of course the direwolf wouldn't let his young master be taken without a fight, and neither would Osha. But I think it's the most plausible theory, as we are due to see Rickon back on the show this season.
It may be common knowledge at this point, depending on how much of a fan you are, but this preview left a lot of people wondering what 'gift' the Umbers (yes, it was the Umbers) were giving to Ramsay Bolton.
I'm 99.9% sure the 'gift' is Rickon Stark.
Where's the evidence that could support this? Well, when last we saw Rickon Stark, he, Osha, and Shaggydog were setting off for Last Hearth, the seat of House Umber in the North. In the books, the Umbers are a bit divided since the death of Robb Stark--half of them ally with Stannis and the other grudging swear fealty to the Boltons, because Smalljon is slain at the Red Wedding and Greatjon is still a captive of the Freys (along with Brynden 'The Blackfish' Tully and Edmure Tully, who we will definitely see this season).
So, assuming Rickon and co. made it to Last Hearth safely, it's not entirely implausible that they would offer up Rickon Stark as a hostage to Ramsay. The show may have chosen to simplify the issue of the Umber's loyalty by just making them ally with the Boltons for real.
Sansa took the place of Jeyne Poole in a version of the fake Arya subplot last season, and now that she and Theon have escaped and Ramsay assumes they've headed for Castle Black, he may actually still send Jon Snow a version of the Pink Letter from the books--only instead of claiming that he has Mance Rayder, he'll be claiming that he has Rickon Stark, and Jon will ride south to rescue his brother, as he tried to do in the books to rescue Jeyne Poole before he was assassinated.
I'm not sure how Osha or Shaggydog would fit into all this, because of course the direwolf wouldn't let his young master be taken without a fight, and neither would Osha. But I think it's the most plausible theory, as we are due to see Rickon back on the show this season.
OH AND ONE MOAR THING:
Look at this picture:
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Now look at this one:
DOES THE ENVIRONMENT NOT LOOK ODDLY SIMILAR TO YOU?!?!?!
DOES THISMEAN THAT SANSA MAKES IT TO BEAR ISLAND TO GAIN THE MORMONT'S SUPPORT AND SHE RUNS INTO DAVOS?! WTF IS GOING ON HEER?!?!
DOES THISMEAN THAT SANSA MAKES IT TO BEAR ISLAND TO GAIN THE MORMONT'S SUPPORT AND SHE RUNS INTO DAVOS?! WTF IS GOING ON HEER?!?!
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I was so ticked off that they copped out on showing the whole Tower of Joy flashback. 
Like I just had that feeling they were gonna cut it off but I really wanted Bran to keep running up that tower.
Anyways, they'd better finish the sequence later this season. I want to see iiiiiit!
Like I just had that feeling they were gonna cut it off but I really wanted Bran to keep running up that tower. Anyways, they'd better finish the sequence later this season. I want to see iiiiiit!
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Quick reply, because I'm about to start cleaning house:
I loved loved loved the Tower of Joy sequence. I don't care of Gerold Hightower wasn't there, or that we didn't see my new bae Arthur Dayne wielding a version of Dawn (something that show watchers likely wouldn't have recognized the importance of anyway), or that we didn't see Lyanna. It was an awesome fight and I don't care.
That being said, it DID feel like the biggest cock tease in the world. I now have blue balls from the Tower Joy sequence not being shown in it's entirety. I should've known that they probably wouldn't have shown Lyanna or anything related to Jon, but given that the whole episode is 10 lbs of 'mother' references stuffed into 5lb bag, I think we can clearly deduce what D&D have been trying to tell us for the past 5 seasons.
Come on. The only people who don't believe in R+L=J are people who just don't want to hop on the bandwagon. The evidence in the books and in the show is laid bare for everyone to see.
I'll get to the rest of the episode later, but I just have to say 'CALLED IT' on Rickon being the gift to Ramsay. My poor little Stark baby...
That being said, it DID feel like the biggest cock tease in the world. I now have blue balls from the Tower Joy sequence not being shown in it's entirety. I should've known that they probably wouldn't have shown Lyanna or anything related to Jon, but given that the whole episode is 10 lbs of 'mother' references stuffed into 5lb bag, I think we can clearly deduce what D&D have been trying to tell us for the past 5 seasons.
Come on. The only people who don't believe in R+L=J are people who just don't want to hop on the bandwagon. The evidence in the books and in the show is laid bare for everyone to see.
I'll get to the rest of the episode later, but I just have to say 'CALLED IT' on Rickon being the gift to Ramsay. My poor little Stark baby...
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The way that I react to each of the four people being hanged is both an interesting and a frightening insight into the power of fiction.
The first guy Jon speaks to I don't feel much sympathy for. It is a pleasure to see his fear from seeing a dead man walking. There is some satisfaction in karma biting his ass.
The second guy I feel for. Book readers may know more about this character, but my reading of his expressions during episodes 1 and 3 is of a character who is in no way proud of killing Jon Snow. He looks conflicted in my eyes. Though I doubt Jon will honor the man's request to let his mother hear a more honorable tale of his death instead of what really happened, I really wanted Jon to say "I will make it so".
Ser Alliser Thorne... Since his first appearance in the show I have wanted to see this man die or at least get some severe punishment for what a massive dick he is. Yet here we are and I barely feel any satisfaction at all from finally seeing him go. Despite their differences, Jon Snow clearly has an understanding of- and a tiny amount of respect for Alliser Thorne's devotion to the Night's Watch. As a viewer I've also grown some respect for the character despite massively disagreeing with his dickishness. The reason I feel almost nothing here is because the "battle" between Jon Snow and Alliser has ultimately been about leadership and ideologies. Their lack of good chemistry means nothing to me in the end.
Finally... Olly. I have many times said that I hate seeing children get hurt, even in fiction. For the most part this is true. But his betrayal of Jon Snow is so much more emotional than with the rest of the gang of traitors. However vile it may sound, I want to express full honesty and admit that I greatly enjoyed seeing the f*cking twat hang. I understand why Olly did what he did. He was a boy consumed by thoughts of revenge. It is also that rage which makes him stare at Jon Snow with defiance and rage in those last moments before he gets to dangle.
Simultaneously a part of me was hoping that Jon would cut Olly's rope, letting him live. I am so f*cking angry at this boy character for what he did and I enjoyed seeing him die, while at the same time there is the awareness that he is just a lost boy.
This truly displays the power of storytelling: It can make me feel things that goes against my principles and usual gut reactions. I saw a lost, orphaned, vengeful boy hang and I enjoyed it. What more of a reminder does one need that evil is in us all?
The first guy Jon speaks to I don't feel much sympathy for. It is a pleasure to see his fear from seeing a dead man walking. There is some satisfaction in karma biting his ass.
The second guy I feel for. Book readers may know more about this character, but my reading of his expressions during episodes 1 and 3 is of a character who is in no way proud of killing Jon Snow. He looks conflicted in my eyes. Though I doubt Jon will honor the man's request to let his mother hear a more honorable tale of his death instead of what really happened, I really wanted Jon to say "I will make it so".
Ser Alliser Thorne... Since his first appearance in the show I have wanted to see this man die or at least get some severe punishment for what a massive dick he is. Yet here we are and I barely feel any satisfaction at all from finally seeing him go. Despite their differences, Jon Snow clearly has an understanding of- and a tiny amount of respect for Alliser Thorne's devotion to the Night's Watch. As a viewer I've also grown some respect for the character despite massively disagreeing with his dickishness. The reason I feel almost nothing here is because the "battle" between Jon Snow and Alliser has ultimately been about leadership and ideologies. Their lack of good chemistry means nothing to me in the end.
Finally... Olly. I have many times said that I hate seeing children get hurt, even in fiction. For the most part this is true. But his betrayal of Jon Snow is so much more emotional than with the rest of the gang of traitors. However vile it may sound, I want to express full honesty and admit that I greatly enjoyed seeing the f*cking twat hang. I understand why Olly did what he did. He was a boy consumed by thoughts of revenge. It is also that rage which makes him stare at Jon Snow with defiance and rage in those last moments before he gets to dangle.
Simultaneously a part of me was hoping that Jon would cut Olly's rope, letting him live. I am so f*cking angry at this boy character for what he did and I enjoyed seeing him die, while at the same time there is the awareness that he is just a lost boy.
This truly displays the power of storytelling: It can make me feel things that goes against my principles and usual gut reactions. I saw a lost, orphaned, vengeful boy hang and I enjoyed it. What more of a reminder does one need that evil is in us all?
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fake edit: btw I'm up to date again. Reddit is full of spoilers, basically
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Names of the episodes so far:
Episode 1: The Red Woman 4/24
Episode 2: Home 5/1
Episode 3: Oathbreaker 5/8
Episode 4: Book of the Stranger 5/15
Episode 5: The Door 5/22
Episode 6: Blood of My Blood 5/29
Episode 7: The Broken Man 6/6
Episode 6 will likely be a Dothraki centered episode, given that the title of it is a phrase they use often.
It's interesting to note that Episode 7 will only have a run time of only 51 minutes... But with a title like that, can we possibly expect to see a certain Ian McShane as Septon Meribald, and with him, maybe a certain Sandor Clegane? Trying not to get my hopes up about this.
The finale is due to be 69 minutes long.
Episode 2: Home 5/1
Episode 3: Oathbreaker 5/8
Episode 4: Book of the Stranger 5/15
Episode 5: The Door 5/22
Episode 6: Blood of My Blood 5/29
Episode 7: The Broken Man 6/6
Episode 6 will likely be a Dothraki centered episode, given that the title of it is a phrase they use often.
It's interesting to note that Episode 7 will only have a run time of only 51 minutes... But with a title like that, can we possibly expect to see a certain Ian McShane as Septon Meribald, and with him, maybe a certain Sandor Clegane? Trying not to get my hopes up about this.
The finale is due to be 69 minutes long.
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I'm really interested in these titles. The 6th episode is the only one that seems to most certainly refer to Dany's storyline. Is this where Drogon finds her again, based on that preview of him flying over the Dothraki?
And I won't get my hopes up about the Hound, but I would absolutely love to see him return in some fashion.
I'm really stumped by 'The Door' title.
Does it have something to do with Arya?
Edit: Holy smokes, the finale is 69 minutes long? Oh baby
And I won't get my hopes up about the Hound, but I would absolutely love to see him return in some fashion.
I'm really stumped by 'The Door' title.
Does it have something to do with Arya?Edit: Holy smokes, the finale is 69 minutes long? Oh baby
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Some tidbits on the 'Stranger':
The Stranger is one of the seven aspects of the main faith in Westeros, interesting in that aspect in that he is the only aspect bathed in a negative light, and rarely prayed to. While androgynous, the Stranger is typically referred to as male by many of Westeros, and represents death and the unknown, and hides their face under a hooded mantle.
The House of Black and White contains statues of many death gods, including the Stranger.
The Hound's horse was named Stranger.
As for the 'Book of' part, I really can't say. I guess we'll find out this Sunday.
The House of Black and White contains statues of many death gods, including the Stranger.
The Hound's horse was named Stranger.
As for the 'Book of' part, I really can't say. I guess we'll find out this Sunday.
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The quote "What do we say to the god of Death? 'Not today'." springs to mind.
It is interesting how Arya is essentially walking down a path of death by trying to become no one, or at least faking really well to try and achieve just that. Though considering that she went so far as to drink the water that usually kills people, it truly shows that she has gone far in her acceptance of death.
But that can't possibly be where Arya's story ends. If Arya becomes truly noone, then she will no longer have motivation and there won't be a plot to follow. I hope we get a sequence where Arya has discovered the power she desires, then she says to the Stranger/God-of-Death "NOT TODAY". That would be an awesome "FUCK U" to death, with a much more victorious tone in contrast to Jon's resurrection which has more of a tragedy to it.
But that can't possibly be where Arya's story ends. If Arya becomes truly noone, then she will no longer have motivation and there won't be a plot to follow. I hope we get a sequence where Arya has discovered the power she desires, then she says to the Stranger/God-of-Death "NOT TODAY". That would be an awesome "FUCK U" to death, with a much more victorious tone in contrast to Jon's resurrection which has more of a tragedy to it.
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Actually Shad there's a theory that:
once Arya full completes her training as a Faceless Man, that she may in fact be sent to kill Jon. It's all just speculation at this point though.
But I think that she either won't be able to finish the training or that she'll go rogue and leave Essos for Westeros again. Or maybe they send her on a mission to Westeros and she defects.
Either way, I don't think she'll get off easy no matter which direction her story goes in, because they'd surely send Faceless Men to hunt her down.
But I think that she either won't be able to finish the training or that she'll go rogue and leave Essos for Westeros again. Or maybe they send her on a mission to Westeros and she defects.
Either way, I don't think she'll get off easy no matter which direction her story goes in, because they'd surely send Faceless Men to hunt her down.
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Yeah, but the Faceless Men usually only kill only for exorbitant amounts of money, and they don't just go out all willy nilly. Arya kept needle though, so that's what leads me to believe she may never fully become a Faceless Man.
Here's a really good video from Alt Shift X about Arya's story so far and how it could possibly end.
Here's a really good video from Alt Shift X about Arya's story so far and how it could possibly end.
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If the Faceless Men dislike resurrection, it would make sense for them to want to kill those who do the resurrection which would be Melisandre and the Red Wizard. I can easily see Melisandre sensing Arya's importance but not feeling and seeing the future so clearly that she sees the one who will kill her (and if Arya kills Melisandre, Arya may be wearing a different face at the time of the murder anyway).
Not nearly as much drama if Arya is sent to kill Melisandre instead of Jon, but it'd certainly be an interesting way for Arya to cross paths with Jon.
Arya: "Hi Jon. I'm here to kill that lady in red who looks like the lead singer of some Symphonic Metal band."
Jon: "Aw geez, not sure if I'm okay with that. She resurrected me and sticks around as a general lifeline for both me and those I care about."
Arya: "Huh. Yeah, now shit got complicated. Oh well, I'll just go kill the Red Wizard instead and decide later what to do with the Red Bitch."
Not nearly as much drama if Arya is sent to kill Melisandre instead of Jon, but it'd certainly be an interesting way for Arya to cross paths with Jon.
Arya: "Hi Jon. I'm here to kill that lady in red who looks like the lead singer of some Symphonic Metal band."
Jon: "Aw geez, not sure if I'm okay with that. She resurrected me and sticks around as a general lifeline for both me and those I care about."
Arya: "Huh. Yeah, now shit got complicated. Oh well, I'll just go kill the Red Wizard instead and decide later what to do with the Red Bitch."
Arya then leaves to find the Red Wizard and Lady Stoneheart, where Arya ends up having to kill the corrupted remains of her resurrected mother. 
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Just wanted to put this interesting interview with Aidan Gillen (Littlefinger) here. I enjoyed it.
I particularly like the part where he says he feels some remorse for his actions (pairing Sansa up with Ramsay) and that he seems to want to make amends. He's still a creep and a schemer and a bit of a mastermind, but I've noticed how much he's enamored by Sansa. I think he has a lot of... 'feelings' for her, that he rather creepily all combines together (sometimes seeming paternal, other times romantic, and so on 
), but in this way it's like... she's his one weakness, you could say.
I've entertained the idea for a couple years now that she might be the one to 'bring him down' in the end. Or maybe she could tame him. He could be her little mockingbird. And the Hound could be her hound.
), but in this way it's like... she's his one weakness, you could say. I've entertained the idea for a couple years now that she might be the one to 'bring him down' in the end. Or maybe she could tame him. He could be her little mockingbird. And the Hound could be her hound.
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Oh wow, what a great episode. I loooved it!
I mean, first off... thank god, a Stark reunion! Finally finally finally!! Sansa and Jon, oh gosh, I really got tears in my eyes. I loved it. <3 I have been waiting to see something like this for so long.
And also in their storyline, the tv's version of the Pink Letter. They pulled it off quite well I think, having the letter come after Jon's resurrection instead of before, and while Sansa is there with him, but now Rickon has been captured.
Also, Tormund giving Brienne looks. Priceless.
I must admit, every scene with Jon and Sansa was great here, purely in terms of me enjoying them together again. Aw, I enjoyed every moment of those scenes. And her and Jon being convinced to take back Winterfell somehow is awesome.
At Winterfell, a bit sad to see Osha die so quickly. I knew it was coming when she went into Ramnsay's room though.
Also, looks like Littlefinger has managed to neatly grasp control of the entirety of the Vale, and is planning on going after the Boltons. By the next episode's preview, seems he meets up with Sansa again. I presume he'll join up with her and Jon to help them take Winterfell.
Interesting piece in Mereen with Tyrion and the Masters. I think it's an interesting moral question there; when Dany came in, she broke the slave's chains and moved on, declaring they were free, and yet that didn't work. They became slaves again or just turned the Masters into slaves. There was no system put in place to keep them free, and after thousands of years of slavery it couldn't change overnight. Tyrion proposes a different venture, one that still leads the slaves to being demolished, but with enough time to set a proper system to replace it in motion. Yes, morally you don't want them to be slaves any longer at all, but could this be what actually helps things in the long run? He made a good point about Westeros working just fine without slaves.
Anyways, I'm not going to philosophize about it anymore now. Suffice to say I found it interesting.
Looks like Theon is back at Pyke, and wants to help his sister become King (Queen?) of the Iron Islands. I must admit I'm so glad to see him 'unbroken' now.
In King's Landing, looks like Loras is broken and Margery is trying to muster some strength in him and herself, but I don't know if she'll succeed.
However, Cersei has gotten some info out of Tommen, and now she's been able to unify the small council into the collective agreement that the High Sparrow has to be brought down, even if it means civil war.
I dunno, I had the sudden feeling that this might truly be the beginning of the fall of King's Landing. Whatever happens, it won't end well for either side.
And then, Dany's storyline. Some hilarious dialogue between Jorah and Dario (something about Dario being shit whether he kills an old man or the old man kills him) as they clearly don't care much for each other, but yet have a love for Dany in common.
With Dany, I loved her performance in this episode. Very calm, collected, and yet shows a bit of her 'girlish' side while talking with the other young Dosh Khaleen (befriending her, looks like). Then she goes total 'I'm going to rule the Dothraki and it's already set in stone' while talking to the Khal's in the hut. That smile she gives is perfect. Aaaaand then she sets the entire place on fire, kills, the Khal's, and walks out unscathed, her clothes burned off. And now the entire race of the Dothraki just saw that shit and it's no wonder they decided to bow down.
It's an epic 'recreation' of season 1's ending, except this time the entire Dothraki horde have witnessed her walk out of an inferno unscathed, after just killing all the Khal's.
Wow, what a pure badass way to end the episode, I looooved it. That song that played with that scene gave me those awesome chills again. Now she has the Dothraki and the Unsullied and whoever else decides to follow her at her back. Now she can continue to move to Westeros; I think she finally will. No more dilly dallying. She has the army she needed, truly. And some growing dragons (hoping Rhaegal and Viserion get to fly out soon ;-; ).
So yes, I loved the episode. Woooooo!
And also in their storyline, the tv's version of the Pink Letter. They pulled it off quite well I think, having the letter come after Jon's resurrection instead of before, and while Sansa is there with him, but now Rickon has been captured.
Also, Tormund giving Brienne looks. Priceless.
I must admit, every scene with Jon and Sansa was great here, purely in terms of me enjoying them together again. Aw, I enjoyed every moment of those scenes. And her and Jon being convinced to take back Winterfell somehow is awesome.
At Winterfell, a bit sad to see Osha die so quickly. I knew it was coming when she went into Ramnsay's room though.
Also, looks like Littlefinger has managed to neatly grasp control of the entirety of the Vale, and is planning on going after the Boltons. By the next episode's preview, seems he meets up with Sansa again. I presume he'll join up with her and Jon to help them take Winterfell.
Interesting piece in Mereen with Tyrion and the Masters. I think it's an interesting moral question there; when Dany came in, she broke the slave's chains and moved on, declaring they were free, and yet that didn't work. They became slaves again or just turned the Masters into slaves. There was no system put in place to keep them free, and after thousands of years of slavery it couldn't change overnight. Tyrion proposes a different venture, one that still leads the slaves to being demolished, but with enough time to set a proper system to replace it in motion. Yes, morally you don't want them to be slaves any longer at all, but could this be what actually helps things in the long run? He made a good point about Westeros working just fine without slaves.
Anyways, I'm not going to philosophize about it anymore now.
Suffice to say I found it interesting. Looks like Theon is back at Pyke, and wants to help his sister become King (Queen?) of the Iron Islands. I must admit I'm so glad to see him 'unbroken' now.
In King's Landing, looks like Loras is broken and Margery is trying to muster some strength in him and herself, but I don't know if she'll succeed.
However, Cersei has gotten some info out of Tommen, and now she's been able to unify the small council into the collective agreement that the High Sparrow has to be brought down, even if it means civil war.
I dunno, I had the sudden feeling that this might truly be the beginning of the fall of King's Landing. Whatever happens, it won't end well for either side.
And then, Dany's storyline. Some hilarious dialogue between Jorah and Dario (something about Dario being shit whether he kills an old man or the old man kills him
) as they clearly don't care much for each other, but yet have a love for Dany in common. With Dany, I loved her performance in this episode. Very calm, collected, and yet shows a bit of her 'girlish' side while talking with the other young Dosh Khaleen (befriending her, looks like). Then she goes total 'I'm going to rule the Dothraki and it's already set in stone' while talking to the Khal's in the hut. That smile she gives is perfect. Aaaaand then she sets the entire place on fire, kills, the Khal's, and walks out unscathed, her clothes burned off. And now the entire race of the Dothraki just saw that shit and it's no wonder they decided to bow down.
It's an epic 'recreation' of season 1's ending, except this time the entire Dothraki horde have witnessed her walk out of an inferno unscathed, after just killing all the Khal's.
Wow, what a pure badass way to end the episode, I looooved it. That song that played with that scene gave me those awesome chills again. Now she has the Dothraki and the Unsullied and whoever else decides to follow her at her back. Now she can continue to move to Westeros; I think she finally will. No more dilly dallying. She has the army she needed, truly. And some growing dragons (hoping Rhaegal and Viserion get to fly out soon ;-; ).
So yes, I loved the episode. Woooooo!
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So much win for the Stark reunion and Dany burning the joint to the ground. I mean, she has effectively made herself the Khal of Khal's now and I got shivers too because you could kinda tell what was gonna happen but it was so much more satisfying seeing it all unfold. And now she's got... what... thousands upon thousands of warriors to follow her? Will she try go back to Meereen or will she march forward into Westeros (is she currently on Westeros or still Essos?? Couldn't remember). Either way, go Dany go. She is just further and further proving that she is truly the one worthy of the Iron Throne.
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We have a long weekend here and I've spent it catching up on GoT, which I haven't watched since the Red Wedding. So addictive!!! I've just got to the part where Tyrion arrives in Meereen.
Why is Cersei such a fool? If only she'd cultivated and befriended her little brother, the Lannisters would have been unstoppable.
It was really satisfying to see him kill Tywin on the potty
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First off: I maed dis, vis a vis Jorah
Secondly I did not think this show could really surprise me anymore.
Secondly I did not think this show could really surprise me anymore.
Even Jon Snow's revival I had kind of seen coming. But then she fucking BURNED VAES DOTRHAK TO THE GROUND
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Tower of Joy Battle - Star Wars Edition (S06E03)
- Jon Snow and Sansa Stark reunion. 'Nuff said. Poor Jon is so very battle-worn and for very good reason. Usually you die and then there is finally the rest of nothingness, but Jon doesn't get that "pleasure". Instead he is fated to fight on and on until his final death.
Seeing Sansa's resolve to take back Winterfell, with or without Jon's help, is SUCH a satisfying thing to see. Sansa has evolved so much since the first season. To see her current determination and hard-shelled style (reading the final part of Bolton's letter) is a great reward after having seen Sansa in such a weak state for so many seasons.
- Bolton kills another main character. Bye bye Osha. I'm 100% convinced that he will end up killing Rickon Stark as well, but at least now we no longer have the suspense of wondering whether Osha would survive. There's just no way that Jon and Sansa will be able to BOTH take back Winterfell and save their brother. If Rickon survives, I will...do something silly, because Game of Thrones surprises you when somebody DOESN'T die.
- Littlefinger does Littlefinger. Yup.
- Thank you, thank you Tyrion Lannister for continuing to be a diplomatic genius. His practical but still good-hearted mindset, to want to abolish slavery but not in a way that leads to war and chaos, is absolutely what Meereen and the rule of Daenerys Targaryen needs. I just hope his allies don't screw things up before his enemies do. Though Missandei does seem to understand the need of practicality, underneath all her understandable rage, it wouldn't surprise me if she gets out of her passive role and instead takes active action by trying to get Tyrion out of the way. They seem to be setting this up not only with the tension between Tyrion and Missandei (and Grey Worm) but also with the quote "We make peace with our enemies, not our friends". The 'friends' of Tyrion may end up betraying him because peace was not made with his friends.
- Theon Greyjoy and Yara Greyjoy reunion. I have a feeling that after this mental beating Yara did on Theon, they are going to get closer...then both get killed by their uncle, because this is Game of Thrones. Once we see even a hint of Theon becoming happy, he will die. I just know it. Or well, I'm saying it now so I can say "called it" if that is how things turn out.
- Daenerys Unburnt Final Mix+. A Story of Boobies & Fire.
I always disliked the official statement that Daenerys is not fire-proof. To say that the whole Unburnt shebackle is a one-time "magical" thing is too vague, confusing and misleading. I have heard Daenerys gets burned in the books, but honestly I think the TV show should have it as canon that Daenerys can't get burned. That's just my personal taste on the issue. Let all the other Targaryens be without default Fire Immunity, but please let Daenerys be the best addition any fire-fighter squad could have!
Is it just me or did it seem like Daenerys had mental/magical control over the fire and that she made it spread faster by her will alone?
Does anyone know what the choir at the end is supposed to be saying, if anything at all?
Seeing Sansa's resolve to take back Winterfell, with or without Jon's help, is SUCH a satisfying thing to see. Sansa has evolved so much since the first season. To see her current determination and hard-shelled style (reading the final part of Bolton's letter) is a great reward after having seen Sansa in such a weak state for so many seasons.
- Bolton kills another main character. Bye bye Osha. I'm 100% convinced that he will end up killing Rickon Stark as well, but at least now we no longer have the suspense of wondering whether Osha would survive. There's just no way that Jon and Sansa will be able to BOTH take back Winterfell and save their brother. If Rickon survives, I will...do something silly, because Game of Thrones surprises you when somebody DOESN'T die.
- Littlefinger does Littlefinger. Yup.
- Thank you, thank you Tyrion Lannister for continuing to be a diplomatic genius. His practical but still good-hearted mindset, to want to abolish slavery but not in a way that leads to war and chaos, is absolutely what Meereen and the rule of Daenerys Targaryen needs. I just hope his allies don't screw things up before his enemies do. Though Missandei does seem to understand the need of practicality, underneath all her understandable rage, it wouldn't surprise me if she gets out of her passive role and instead takes active action by trying to get Tyrion out of the way. They seem to be setting this up not only with the tension between Tyrion and Missandei (and Grey Worm) but also with the quote "We make peace with our enemies, not our friends". The 'friends' of Tyrion may end up betraying him because peace was not made with his friends.
- Theon Greyjoy and Yara Greyjoy reunion. I have a feeling that after this mental beating Yara did on Theon, they are going to get closer...then both get killed by their uncle, because this is Game of Thrones.
Once we see even a hint of Theon becoming happy, he will die. I just know it. Or well, I'm saying it now so I can say "called it" if that is how things turn out.- Daenerys Unburnt Final Mix+. A Story of Boobies & Fire.
I always disliked the official statement that Daenerys is not fire-proof. To say that the whole Unburnt shebackle is a one-time "magical" thing is too vague, confusing and misleading. I have heard Daenerys gets burned in the books, but honestly I think the TV show should have it as canon that Daenerys can't get burned. That's just my personal taste on the issue. Let all the other Targaryens be without default Fire Immunity, but please let Daenerys be the best addition any fire-fighter squad could have!
Is it just me or did it seem like Daenerys had mental/magical control over the fire and that she made it spread faster by her will alone?
Does anyone know what the choir at the end is supposed to be saying, if anything at all?
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Episode thoughts:
Episode thoughts:
It's been a busy weekend for me, and I realized I never really posted my thoughts on episode 3 except for lamenting the capture of my little Stark baby, but really, I pretty much concur with everyone else's thoughts.
The Stark reunion we've needed since they all went their separate ways!! I teared up, and I've watched it over and over. One of the best parts of the episode. I've read people saying that they don't know why people are freaking out, because we never had any scenes of Sansa and Jon together, but STFU. Kit and Sophie did a fantastic job of acting in this--you can see the emotions in their faces. THAT'S where the tears come from. That, and they're probably just so glad to see a family member alive after all this time.
CALLED IT on a version of the Pink Letter from the books, which actually retains a lot of the same verbage, but with some minor changes. It does a fantastic job of setting up future conflict, as well as being the kick in the ass Jon needs to not go all hippie on us and stop fighting the good fight. Sansa's face when the letter mentions Rickon is heartbreaking.
Nice little scene with Davos, Mel, and Brienne. Much tension. It's too bad that Brienne and Pod will be sent to the Riverlands, so we won't get to see how that conflict of characters turns out just yet. Davos and Mel on the other hand...
I really wonder how this is going to turn out, because they've set up Euron as a villain, and in the trailers Yara is clearly seen making out with a whore in Volantis. Is she just going to leave Theon in the Iron Islands? Is he going to die? Much questions. But it's good to see siblings reuniting all over the place.
The High Sparrow clearly has political goals in mind. He's no mere religious fanatic. You can see the wheels turning in his head whenever he's on screen. Speaking of which, finally, a decent scene with Margaery, and we get to see Loras! It sucks that he's going to get all his lovely hair cut off. Watch the videos behind the episode and you'll seen Finn Jones in costume with his hair shorn. Natalie Dormer is also in a pretty interesting costume.
The scene with Dany at the end was, in a word, epic. There are times when I think she acts overly confident and may be getting too big for her britches, but it totally pays off in this case.
To be honest, I was vaguely reminded of Sephiroth in Nibelheim with Daenerys walking through that fire, naked and unafraid. It was such a powerful image, one that sticks in your mind, almost biblical even. And with the music in the background, I got a complete nerd boner.
No Shad, I don't really know what the chorus is saying, which sucks, because I really wish Ramin Djawadi would release the lyrics when the scores are released. Speaking of which I am totally buying this one when it comes out--too many powerful themes in it not to have.
I don't she was controlling the fire with her will persay--I think Jorah and Daario may have may have had a hand in making the place more flammable, but complete props on Dany for doing this one without Drogon. When set pictures first appeared of the Dosh Khaleen temple in flames, we all thought it was the dragon. Well, it was a dragon, just not a dragon-dragon.
Not much to comment on Littlefinger and his shenanigans, except I totally called it: I had a a feeling before the trailers came out that the Vale was going to rally behind Sansa and the North at some point--glad to see that I was right. So... about 2,000 fighting Wildlings, a couple thousand men from the Vale and the Eyrie, AND the support of House Mormont... Yeah, I'd say Sansa, Jon, and co. have a pretty good fighting chance.
Not to be overly optimistic, but everyone seems to think that because Osha has been killed (rest in peace), that Rickon's death warrant has immediately been signed. Yes, I know it's Game of Thrones, and an episode without at least three deaths is considered a dull affair, but the story is called A Song of Ice and Fire. Not the 'Battle' of Ice and Fire, but a 'Song'. Songs have a harmony. Ice and Fire are opposites, and there's a theme of duality throughout the whole story.
Game of Thrones isn't just a story about death and despair; it's about hope, and overcoming tragedy when you're at your worst. The Starks have been beaten down for five seasons now; it's comeback time. Call me carefully optimistic.
The Stark reunion we've needed since they all went their separate ways!! I teared up, and I've watched it over and over. One of the best parts of the episode. I've read people saying that they don't know why people are freaking out, because we never had any scenes of Sansa and Jon together, but STFU. Kit and Sophie did a fantastic job of acting in this--you can see the emotions in their faces. THAT'S where the tears come from. That, and they're probably just so glad to see a family member alive after all this time.
CALLED IT on a version of the Pink Letter from the books, which actually retains a lot of the same verbage, but with some minor changes. It does a fantastic job of setting up future conflict, as well as being the kick in the ass Jon needs to not go all hippie on us and stop fighting the good fight. Sansa's face when the letter mentions Rickon is heartbreaking.
Nice little scene with Davos, Mel, and Brienne. Much tension. It's too bad that Brienne and Pod will be sent to the Riverlands, so we won't get to see how that conflict of characters turns out just yet. Davos and Mel on the other hand...
I really wonder how this is going to turn out, because they've set up Euron as a villain, and in the trailers Yara is clearly seen making out with a whore in Volantis. Is she just going to leave Theon in the Iron Islands? Is he going to die? Much questions. But it's good to see siblings reuniting all over the place.
The High Sparrow clearly has political goals in mind. He's no mere religious fanatic. You can see the wheels turning in his head whenever he's on screen. Speaking of which, finally, a decent scene with Margaery, and we get to see Loras! It sucks that he's going to get all his lovely hair cut off. Watch the videos behind the episode and you'll seen Finn Jones in costume with his hair shorn. Natalie Dormer is also in a pretty interesting costume.
The scene with Dany at the end was, in a word, epic. There are times when I think she acts overly confident and may be getting too big for her britches, but it totally pays off in this case.
To be honest, I was vaguely reminded of Sephiroth in Nibelheim with Daenerys walking through that fire, naked and unafraid. It was such a powerful image, one that sticks in your mind, almost biblical even. And with the music in the background, I got a complete nerd boner.
No Shad, I don't really know what the chorus is saying, which sucks, because I really wish Ramin Djawadi would release the lyrics when the scores are released. Speaking of which I am totally buying this one when it comes out--too many powerful themes in it not to have.
I don't she was controlling the fire with her will persay--I think Jorah and Daario may have may have had a hand in making the place more flammable, but complete props on Dany for doing this one without Drogon. When set pictures first appeared of the Dosh Khaleen temple in flames, we all thought it was the dragon. Well, it was a dragon, just not a dragon-dragon.
Not much to comment on Littlefinger and his shenanigans, except I totally called it: I had a a feeling before the trailers came out that the Vale was going to rally behind Sansa and the North at some point--glad to see that I was right. So... about 2,000 fighting Wildlings, a couple thousand men from the Vale and the Eyrie, AND the support of House Mormont... Yeah, I'd say Sansa, Jon, and co. have a pretty good fighting chance.
Not to be overly optimistic, but everyone seems to think that because Osha has been killed (rest in peace), that Rickon's death warrant has immediately been signed. Yes, I know it's Game of Thrones, and an episode without at least three deaths is considered a dull affair, but the story is called A Song of Ice and Fire. Not the 'Battle' of Ice and Fire, but a 'Song'. Songs have a harmony. Ice and Fire are opposites, and there's a theme of duality throughout the whole story.
Game of Thrones isn't just a story about death and despair; it's about hope, and overcoming tragedy when you're at your worst. The Starks have been beaten down for five seasons now; it's comeback time. Call me carefully optimistic.
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