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REALLY!!!!!!!!
Harry Potter and the deathly hallows
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eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
new shit that I could spot:
SNAPESNAPESNAPESNAPE
Diadem
Lily and Petunia
animated suits of armour fuck yeah
Narcissa in the forbidden forest
lots of epic new battle of hogwarts stuff
Fred's death T__________________T
Remus and Tonks (omg i hope so much they do their death more justice than the books did)
harry and voldy....jump off a bridge? YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
Molly vs Beatrix
oh man so excite
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This is a couple days old now, but Matt Lewis (Neville) said this in an interview:
Yessssss. While I understand that it would have broken the narration style of the books to show anything going on at Hogwarts, I was disappointed we couldn't see any of the resistance in Hogwarts. This makes me super pumped.
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i loved the books and am really hoping part 2 is a lot better than 1. it was good and all but for a harry potter movie? no. i felt like it had no direction at all and i can empathize seeing as it is only 1 part of the movie but still, i think they could have fit more into it than just dobby dying.
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Mr. Ollivander appears to be familiar with the Deathly Hallows, while in the book, he doesn’t understand what the term means- Ollivander would have told Voldemort under torture, and he would have worked to secure the cloak and stone.
Aberforth Dumbledore doesn’t explain his brother’s backstory- this greatly weakens Dumbledore’s character IMO. Without having his flaws exposed by his brother, he’s an amazing, flawless wizard with a beard. There’s also none of Aberforth’s emotion at the way his family was destroyed.
The protective shield the Professors place around the school disintegrates anything that attempt to run through it. During the beginning of the Battle of Hogwarts, it instantly kills 17 Death Eaters- McGonagall and Flitwick simply aren’t that strong.
Harry goes to Ravenclaw Tower alone and does not encounter the Carrows in the common room. Amycus does not spit in McGonagall’s face- one of my favourite moments of the book was when Harry attacked Amycus for being so rude to McGonagall. It also means that the Carrows are basically nothing characters who happen to see Dumbledore’s death.
Aberforth fends off hundreds of Dementors during the Battle of Hogwarts with a tidal wave patronus- Aberforth’s patronus is a goat, not a tidal wave.
Buckbeak, centaurs and house-elves don’t appear during the Battle- so it isn’t really the wizarding world uniting against Voldemort. Well played.
Harry tells Ron and Hermione that he is a Horcrux, and that he must die. Hermione tells him that she suspected so all along- removing the emotion of Harry walking to his death feeling alone, protecting his friends, and so forth. Again, well played.
Hagrid does not place Harry’s dead “corpse” on the ground, he instead leaps out of Hagrid’s arms ready to fight, while Narcissa Malfoy was looking for signs of life but finding none until Harry leaps out of Hagrid’s arms- so no Narcissa protecting her son by lying to Voldemort, no Hagrid accusing Voldemort of having “done something” to Harry… two really good moments, spoiled.
The final battle between Harry and Voldemort will be extended, and while other parts of the second phase of the Battle of Hogwarts will be shown, the primary focus will be centered on Harry and Voldemort.
Once Harry reveals himself, Voldemort locks Harry up asking how he escaped death, after Harry tells him Voldemort lets him out. This causes their chase around many different places in Hogwarts.
On top of the Astronomy Tower, Harry grabs Voldemort and throws them both off it, they nearly reach the bottom when Voldemort Apparates them both away- that’s right, they added loads of pointless action that I can’t see being pulled off in the place of the emotional bits. They’re really doing a good job of destroying JK’s artwork.
different list I am too lazy to sort out:
1.Griphook does not make a deal with the trio, and steals the Sword without warning.
2.When Griphook is killed by Voldemort, the Sword of Gryffindor disappears from his hands.
3.Aberforth Dumbledore doesn't explain his brother's backstory
4.Ron and Hermione are nearly killed in the Chamber of Secrets when they are attacked by a tsumani created by Voldemort, as their "lives flashing before their eyes" they lean and kiss each other.
5.Vincent Crabbe doesn't appear in the film due to the drug charges against actor Jamie Waylett and Gregory Goyle will die in his place
6.Fred duels a Death Eater during the battle, and then gets disarmed, and cornered by many other Death Eaters. This is likely what leads to his death.
7.Lavender Brown is killed during the Battle by Fenrir Greyback
8.Buckbeak, centaurs and house-elves don't appear during the Battle.
9.Snape's death will not take place in the Shrieking Shack, but in "a Crystal House" that can see the boathouse and the castle burning.
10.Voldemort slashes Snape's throat open with the Elder Wand using Sectumsempra, before ordering Nagini to "finish him".
11.Scabior and other Snatchers duel Neville on the Covered Bridge, and they are killed when half of the bridge collapses.
12.There are a number of differences in Snape's flashback
13.Snape and Lily are not shown to be good friends, instead he admires her from afar.
14.A scene shows Lily and James as teenagers dancing.
15.other scene shows Lily telling Harry, still an infant, to be brave and that he is loved.
16.A scene is added where Snape comes to Godric's Hollow, after Lily and James were killed in 1981, to see them dead, even collapsing when seeing Lily dead. He then cradles her in his arms then sees Harry sitting in his crib watching on.
17.Harry tells Ron and Hermione that he is a Horcrux, and that he must die. Hermione tells him that she suspected so all along.
18.Instead of Harry being naked when arriving at King's Cross he is instead fully clothed; he also sees Voldemort in the image of a red, slimy breathing thing.
19.Molly kills Bellatrix with the Avada Kedavra Curse.
20.After being struck with the Killing Curse, Voldemort turns to ash, and crumbles apart in a similar manner to Quirrell in Philosopher's Stone.
21.After the conclusion of the battle. Harry, Ron and Hermione stand on the remains of the Covered Bridge discussing the events of the past year. Harry snaps the Elder Wand in two and throws it over the side.
22.Harry does not go to the Headmaster's Office after the battle.
23.Character ommisions:
* Mundungus Fletcher
* Kreacher
* Grawp
* Buckbeak
* Firenze
* Bane
* Peter Pettigrew.
Aberforth Dumbledore doesn’t explain his brother’s backstory- this greatly weakens Dumbledore’s character IMO. Without having his flaws exposed by his brother, he’s an amazing, flawless wizard with a beard. There’s also none of Aberforth’s emotion at the way his family was destroyed.
The protective shield the Professors place around the school disintegrates anything that attempt to run through it. During the beginning of the Battle of Hogwarts, it instantly kills 17 Death Eaters- McGonagall and Flitwick simply aren’t that strong.
Harry goes to Ravenclaw Tower alone and does not encounter the Carrows in the common room. Amycus does not spit in McGonagall’s face- one of my favourite moments of the book was when Harry attacked Amycus for being so rude to McGonagall. It also means that the Carrows are basically nothing characters who happen to see Dumbledore’s death.
Aberforth fends off hundreds of Dementors during the Battle of Hogwarts with a tidal wave patronus- Aberforth’s patronus is a goat, not a tidal wave.
Buckbeak, centaurs and house-elves don’t appear during the Battle- so it isn’t really the wizarding world uniting against Voldemort. Well played.
Harry tells Ron and Hermione that he is a Horcrux, and that he must die. Hermione tells him that she suspected so all along- removing the emotion of Harry walking to his death feeling alone, protecting his friends, and so forth. Again, well played.
Hagrid does not place Harry’s dead “corpse” on the ground, he instead leaps out of Hagrid’s arms ready to fight, while Narcissa Malfoy was looking for signs of life but finding none until Harry leaps out of Hagrid’s arms- so no Narcissa protecting her son by lying to Voldemort, no Hagrid accusing Voldemort of having “done something” to Harry… two really good moments, spoiled.
The final battle between Harry and Voldemort will be extended, and while other parts of the second phase of the Battle of Hogwarts will be shown, the primary focus will be centered on Harry and Voldemort.
Once Harry reveals himself, Voldemort locks Harry up asking how he escaped death, after Harry tells him Voldemort lets him out. This causes their chase around many different places in Hogwarts.
On top of the Astronomy Tower, Harry grabs Voldemort and throws them both off it, they nearly reach the bottom when Voldemort Apparates them both away- that’s right, they added loads of pointless action that I can’t see being pulled off in the place of the emotional bits. They’re really doing a good job of destroying JK’s artwork.
different list I am too lazy to sort out:
1.Griphook does not make a deal with the trio, and steals the Sword without warning.
2.When Griphook is killed by Voldemort, the Sword of Gryffindor disappears from his hands.
3.Aberforth Dumbledore doesn't explain his brother's backstory
4.Ron and Hermione are nearly killed in the Chamber of Secrets when they are attacked by a tsumani created by Voldemort, as their "lives flashing before their eyes" they lean and kiss each other.
5.Vincent Crabbe doesn't appear in the film due to the drug charges against actor Jamie Waylett and Gregory Goyle will die in his place
6.Fred duels a Death Eater during the battle, and then gets disarmed, and cornered by many other Death Eaters. This is likely what leads to his death.
7.Lavender Brown is killed during the Battle by Fenrir Greyback
8.Buckbeak, centaurs and house-elves don't appear during the Battle.
9.Snape's death will not take place in the Shrieking Shack, but in "a Crystal House" that can see the boathouse and the castle burning.
10.Voldemort slashes Snape's throat open with the Elder Wand using Sectumsempra, before ordering Nagini to "finish him".
11.Scabior and other Snatchers duel Neville on the Covered Bridge, and they are killed when half of the bridge collapses.
12.There are a number of differences in Snape's flashback
13.Snape and Lily are not shown to be good friends, instead he admires her from afar.
14.A scene shows Lily and James as teenagers dancing.
15.other scene shows Lily telling Harry, still an infant, to be brave and that he is loved.
16.A scene is added where Snape comes to Godric's Hollow, after Lily and James were killed in 1981, to see them dead, even collapsing when seeing Lily dead. He then cradles her in his arms then sees Harry sitting in his crib watching on.
17.Harry tells Ron and Hermione that he is a Horcrux, and that he must die. Hermione tells him that she suspected so all along.
18.Instead of Harry being naked when arriving at King's Cross he is instead fully clothed; he also sees Voldemort in the image of a red, slimy breathing thing.
19.Molly kills Bellatrix with the Avada Kedavra Curse.
20.After being struck with the Killing Curse, Voldemort turns to ash, and crumbles apart in a similar manner to Quirrell in Philosopher's Stone.
21.After the conclusion of the battle. Harry, Ron and Hermione stand on the remains of the Covered Bridge discussing the events of the past year. Harry snaps the Elder Wand in two and throws it over the side.
22.Harry does not go to the Headmaster's Office after the battle.
23.Character ommisions:
* Mundungus Fletcher
* Kreacher
* Grawp
* Buckbeak
* Firenze
* Bane
* Peter Pettigrew.
Some of these are REALLY disappointing :/
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...what the fuck.
I mean I can't even understand why they're changing some of these things, and some of those are really vital character moments.
Rage. Just
fuck, i am so disappoint now
I'm sure the movie will still be awesome in its own right but what a stupid thing to sacrifice in exchange for a bit of extra action.
I mean I can't even understand why they're changing some of these things, and some of those are really vital character moments.
Aberforth Dumbledore doesn’t explain his brother’s backstory - I agree, definitely weakens Albus' backstory, though maybe they'll show it through Skeeter's biography instead? :/
Harry goes to Ravenclaw Tower alone and does not encounter the Carrows in the common room. Amycus does not spit in McGonagall’s face - fuckity fuck fuck fuck. McGonagall has already gotten gypped screentime-wise in the other movies, and this was one of my favourite scenes.
Buckbeak, centaurs and house-elves don’t appear during the Battle - WAHT. WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS. It sounds like they're trying to make the movie super action-y, so why on earth would you not include something as awesome as house-elves stabbing people in the kneecaps and Buckbeak mauling things. ffs
Harry tells Ron and Hermione that he is a Horcrux, and that he must die. Hermione tells him that she suspected so all along- I don't even. COMPLETELY DESTROYS THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT ENTIRE CONFRONTATION. FFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Hagrid does not place Harry’s dead “corpse” on the ground, he instead leaps out of Hagrid’s arms ready to fight, while Narcissa Malfoy was looking for signs of life but finding none until Harry leaps out of Hagrid’s arms-Wow. Just. Jesus Christ, what the fuck. :/ Way to take away possibly the most important Malfoy scene in the book, movie.
Snape and Lily are not shown to be good friends, instead he admires her from afar. - great, let's make Snape a creeper rather than a troubled teen and therefore completely change the dynamic of the most important relationship of his entire life. This spoiler possibly makes me the angriest of them all.
Harry goes to Ravenclaw Tower alone and does not encounter the Carrows in the common room. Amycus does not spit in McGonagall’s face - fuckity fuck fuck fuck. McGonagall has already gotten gypped screentime-wise in the other movies, and this was one of my favourite scenes.
Buckbeak, centaurs and house-elves don’t appear during the Battle - WAHT. WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS. It sounds like they're trying to make the movie super action-y, so why on earth would you not include something as awesome as house-elves stabbing people in the kneecaps and Buckbeak mauling things. ffs
Harry tells Ron and Hermione that he is a Horcrux, and that he must die. Hermione tells him that she suspected so all along- I don't even. COMPLETELY DESTROYS THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT ENTIRE CONFRONTATION. FFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Hagrid does not place Harry’s dead “corpse” on the ground, he instead leaps out of Hagrid’s arms ready to fight, while Narcissa Malfoy was looking for signs of life but finding none until Harry leaps out of Hagrid’s arms-Wow. Just. Jesus Christ, what the fuck. :/ Way to take away possibly the most important Malfoy scene in the book, movie.
Snape and Lily are not shown to be good friends, instead he admires her from afar. - great, let's make Snape a creeper rather than a troubled teen and therefore completely change the dynamic of the most important relationship of his entire life. This spoiler possibly makes me the angriest of them all.
Rage. Just
fuck, i am so disappoint now
I'm sure the movie will still be awesome in its own right but what a stupid thing to sacrifice in exchange for a bit of extra action.
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A lot of those omitted characters had huge/lengthy roles in the book. What the fuck, even.
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WHAT IS THIS BITCH DOING.
THIS FEELS SO OLD SCHOOL LIKE WHEN THE BOOKS WERE COMING OUT AND SHE'D PUT CRAP ON HER WEBSITE OH GOD SO MANY MEMORIES...
THIS FEELS SO OLD SCHOOL LIKE WHEN THE BOOKS WERE COMING OUT AND SHE'D PUT CRAP ON HER WEBSITE OH GOD SO MANY MEMORIES...
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is she going to announce her supplementary book which details the position in which all of harry and ginny's children were conceived, how angelina moans fred's name while having sex with george, etc?
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Thats pretty dark, yo.
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maybe twins shouldn't marry their brother's ex-girlfriends.
but maybe that's just me.
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God, why can I imagine Snape glaring at baby!Harry while holding dead!Lily in his arms like it's Harry's fault that Lily died? Yeah, I know that Snape is more than just Potter-hating, but still. Easily imaginable.
Also relatable:
Also relatable:
Ite
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The preview reminded me of something. A glimmer of hope perhaps:
A Patronus can take many forms. Harry Potter fended off hundreds of dementors during Prisoner of Azkaban with a tidal wave patronus. When in wave form, the Patronus is weaker but able to hit multiple targets at once.
If that's what they meant, and not that Aberforth conjurs some wacky ass Patronus tsunami, then this isn't a big issue for me. The rest of the changes are still outrageous.
A Patronus can take many forms. Harry Potter fended off hundreds of dementors during Prisoner of Azkaban with a tidal wave patronus. When in wave form, the Patronus is weaker but able to hit multiple targets at once.
If that's what they meant, and not that Aberforth conjurs some wacky ass Patronus tsunami, then this isn't a big issue for me. The rest of the changes are still outrageous.
looneymoon
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I am at a loss for words.
In a very positive way.
I can't remember the last time I have felt so many emotions watching a movie.
I just...? Fuck.
In a very positive way.
I can't remember the last time I have felt so many emotions watching a movie.
I just...? Fuck.
looneymoon
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I thought I would be okay in the morning. oh god not people I am still not okay ;_;
First things first; this film really is a two-parter. I would highly recommend watching the first part again before seeing this one. IMO it would heighten the enjoyment.
First things first; this film really is a two-parter. I would highly recommend watching the first part again before seeing this one. IMO it would heighten the enjoyment.
Right off I was really impressed by the intense SERIOUS BUSINESS tone they managed to set for the film. Even in the first Deathly Hallows movie (which I also adored) this was pretty unprecedented for a HP film. Right from the get go everything is intense and just gogogo.
Helena Bonham Carter will probably not be mentioned much for her performance in this film, but can I just say she is fantastic? I have been watching these kids for 10+ years and the way she acted as Emma was just so spot on.
As far as acting goes, I think Daniel Radcliffe deserves a really special recognition. I've never been too impressed with his acting in the previous films, and while he did step it up a lot in the last DH film, he went leagues beyond for part 2. I think he was fantastic this time around, whereas in part 1 he was simply good. Before that I thought he was mediocre to awful. So yeah, I really applaud the strides he's made over all these films.
The entire Gringotts sequence I was smiling from ear to ear. I just love these characters so much and I was getting really excited seeing get into shenanigans. I could already sense how much darker the rest of the film was going to be and realized that this was probably the last whimsical escapade I was going to see them get into.
The omission of Dumbledore's back story was the one big tragic cut from the book-to-film translation. Oftentimes I understand reasonable omissions on the basis that film audiences would not have the same emotional response to them as people who have read the book (a prime example being Regulus Black's story which was cut in DHp1 - a story fans would greatly enjoy, but something would not emotionally resonate within the film context). Dumbledore however is a character always shrouded in mystery. He's a character that has been present with Harry since day 1. Yet, we never really get to find out what his deal was, and I think it is terribly unfulfilling. Hopefully it was at least filmed and will later be added to an extended cut/deleted scenes.
For the very same reasons, I feel Pettigrew's death should have also been included. The man's been consistently featured since the third movie. It seems like being cheated a little bit.
And I can't believe I am saying this but - I really do wish they included the house elves? Even if they never included the SPEW storyline in the films, it would have been a great way to feel that Dobby died for something much greater. This is coming from someone who HATES Dobby.
This was the first half hour of the film. I thought I was going to be okay. I thought that I could GET THROUGH THIS MOVIE WITHOUT BAWLING MY EYES OUT.
The Harry fucking enters Hogwarts for the first time. As he steps into the castle the goddamn ORIGINAL JOHN WILLIAMS SCORE KICKS IN and I am trying so hard not to break down but a single tear rolls down my cheek.
The rest of the movie is just one long blur of action and events. The battle sequences are appropriately intense. McGonagall is a fucking bamf. Luna is the cutest thing that ever existed. The Grey Lady sequence was chilling. The Death Eaters are wonderful characters I love them so much. I love the way Draco and Harry's connection was handled. Ron and Hermione kiss and everyone cheers because fucking finally.
The room of requirement got me a little emotional because there were really obvious emphasis on objects/set pieces important to the previous movies. You could see the Devil's Snare, the pixies from film 2, the chess sets. It really played up the nostalgia. The sequence of Hogwarts Battle did the same thing. First they fought the trolls, then giant spiders and Dementors... I was just like, OH I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.
Then fucking Snape's scene with Voldemort was coming up and I was like oh no. His death was really gruesome for a film that's supposed to be appropriate for children. I was sitting there horrified. My friends around me broke down, but I was just really sickened. Not so much because it was gory (it wasn't) but it was just filmed in a really brutal fashion.
The very next scene I just couldn't take it anymore. Snape wanting to look into Harry's eyes was touching enough. Then right after they are running through the school and all this carnage is going down. There are bodies everywhere. The Weasleys are crying over Fred, Remus and Tonk's bodies are being covered, students we've recognized over the years are just lying there dead. Here I just lost it and I couldn't stop for the next twenty or so minutes.
The next scene was the Prince's Tale and oh jesus christ I lost it even harder. Dumbledore, Snape, Lily, Harry... it was all just too much.
Then came the forest scene and I didn't think I could lose it even harder but I lost it harder than ever. Tears, TEARS EVERYWHERE. Narcissa is a fucking BAMF and Voldemort is fucking hilarious the way he just pimpslaps Bellatrix around. Then there is some blatant Dumbledore/Gandalf shit happening and really, this is not the only part of the movie that vaguely reminds me of Lord of the Rings. I mean this in a good way.
Fuck then the Battle of Hogwarts starts up again. Voldemort is an awkward motherfucker and everyone giggles when he tries to give hugs. Neville is a BAMF, Ron and Hermione are BAMFS. Molly Weasley kills Bellatrix and the theatre applauses. Neville kills Nagini and the theatre's applause is even harder. The fight between Harry and Voldemort is much cooler than I imagined it in the book. There is this one scene where they're falling and they kind of merge together and it is this awful nightmare fuel.
Can I just say how great it is that almost ALL the cast from the previous films have appeared in the last two films? I was surprised to see Professor Sprout in some scenes when she has not appeared in the films since the second one. The same could be said with quite a few of the cast, such as Emma Thompson. I think it was just really great that all these big name actors would choose to return for the final film even if they had wordless roles. It just gave it this really special added touch that made everything so much more grand, epic and nostalgic.
Then there is one FINAL scene at the end between the trio and I start getting misty-eyed again. Surprisingly, the epilogue didn't quite kill the mood as I expected it to. It was actually really cute. Even when Harry said "Albus Severus" and everyone snorted in laughter. But as the camera was closing in on the aged trio one last time I was smiling really hard. I thought I would be crying my guts out at the ending but I was just really happy. The film ends once more with the original Hedwig's theme and it is just so simple and beautiful and obvious and I just.
I am still not okay from this movie. I am emotionally rocked ;_;
Helena Bonham Carter will probably not be mentioned much for her performance in this film, but can I just say she is fantastic? I have been watching these kids for 10+ years and the way she acted as Emma was just so spot on.
As far as acting goes, I think Daniel Radcliffe deserves a really special recognition. I've never been too impressed with his acting in the previous films, and while he did step it up a lot in the last DH film, he went leagues beyond for part 2. I think he was fantastic this time around, whereas in part 1 he was simply good. Before that I thought he was mediocre to awful. So yeah, I really applaud the strides he's made over all these films.
The entire Gringotts sequence I was smiling from ear to ear. I just love these characters so much and I was getting really excited seeing get into shenanigans. I could already sense how much darker the rest of the film was going to be and realized that this was probably the last whimsical escapade I was going to see them get into.
The omission of Dumbledore's back story was the one big tragic cut from the book-to-film translation. Oftentimes I understand reasonable omissions on the basis that film audiences would not have the same emotional response to them as people who have read the book (a prime example being Regulus Black's story which was cut in DHp1 - a story fans would greatly enjoy, but something would not emotionally resonate within the film context). Dumbledore however is a character always shrouded in mystery. He's a character that has been present with Harry since day 1. Yet, we never really get to find out what his deal was, and I think it is terribly unfulfilling. Hopefully it was at least filmed and will later be added to an extended cut/deleted scenes.
For the very same reasons, I feel Pettigrew's death should have also been included. The man's been consistently featured since the third movie. It seems like being cheated a little bit.
And I can't believe I am saying this but - I really do wish they included the house elves? Even if they never included the SPEW storyline in the films, it would have been a great way to feel that Dobby died for something much greater. This is coming from someone who HATES Dobby.
This was the first half hour of the film. I thought I was going to be okay. I thought that I could GET THROUGH THIS MOVIE WITHOUT BAWLING MY EYES OUT.
The Harry fucking enters Hogwarts for the first time. As he steps into the castle the goddamn ORIGINAL JOHN WILLIAMS SCORE KICKS IN and I am trying so hard not to break down but a single tear rolls down my cheek.
The rest of the movie is just one long blur of action and events. The battle sequences are appropriately intense. McGonagall is a fucking bamf. Luna is the cutest thing that ever existed. The Grey Lady sequence was chilling. The Death Eaters are wonderful characters I love them so much. I love the way Draco and Harry's connection was handled. Ron and Hermione kiss and everyone cheers because fucking finally.
The room of requirement got me a little emotional because there were really obvious emphasis on objects/set pieces important to the previous movies. You could see the Devil's Snare, the pixies from film 2, the chess sets. It really played up the nostalgia. The sequence of Hogwarts Battle did the same thing. First they fought the trolls, then giant spiders and Dementors... I was just like, OH I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.
Then fucking Snape's scene with Voldemort was coming up and I was like oh no. His death was really gruesome for a film that's supposed to be appropriate for children. I was sitting there horrified. My friends around me broke down, but I was just really sickened. Not so much because it was gory (it wasn't) but it was just filmed in a really brutal fashion.
The very next scene I just couldn't take it anymore. Snape wanting to look into Harry's eyes was touching enough. Then right after they are running through the school and all this carnage is going down. There are bodies everywhere. The Weasleys are crying over Fred, Remus and Tonk's bodies are being covered, students we've recognized over the years are just lying there dead. Here I just lost it and I couldn't stop for the next twenty or so minutes.
The next scene was the Prince's Tale and oh jesus christ I lost it even harder. Dumbledore, Snape, Lily, Harry... it was all just too much.
Then came the forest scene and I didn't think I could lose it even harder but I lost it harder than ever. Tears, TEARS EVERYWHERE. Narcissa is a fucking BAMF and Voldemort is fucking hilarious the way he just pimpslaps Bellatrix around. Then there is some blatant Dumbledore/Gandalf shit happening and really, this is not the only part of the movie that vaguely reminds me of Lord of the Rings. I mean this in a good way.
Fuck then the Battle of Hogwarts starts up again. Voldemort is an awkward motherfucker and everyone giggles when he tries to give hugs. Neville is a BAMF, Ron and Hermione are BAMFS. Molly Weasley kills Bellatrix and the theatre applauses. Neville kills Nagini and the theatre's applause is even harder. The fight between Harry and Voldemort is much cooler than I imagined it in the book. There is this one scene where they're falling and they kind of merge together and it is this awful nightmare fuel.
Can I just say how great it is that almost ALL the cast from the previous films have appeared in the last two films? I was surprised to see Professor Sprout in some scenes when she has not appeared in the films since the second one. The same could be said with quite a few of the cast, such as Emma Thompson. I think it was just really great that all these big name actors would choose to return for the final film even if they had wordless roles. It just gave it this really special added touch that made everything so much more grand, epic and nostalgic.
Then there is one FINAL scene at the end between the trio and I start getting misty-eyed again. Surprisingly, the epilogue didn't quite kill the mood as I expected it to. It was actually really cute. Even when Harry said "Albus Severus" and everyone snorted in laughter. But as the camera was closing in on the aged trio one last time I was smiling really hard. I thought I would be crying my guts out at the ending but I was just really happy. The film ends once more with the original Hedwig's theme and it is just so simple and beautiful and obvious and I just.
I am still not okay from this movie. I am emotionally rocked ;_;
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Just saw it, my sister got to me faster this time 
It was good, I enjoyed it. I'll put down some of my jumbled thoughts, but they probably won't be as orderly as looney's.
It was good, I enjoyed it. I'll put down some of my jumbled thoughts, but they probably won't be as orderly as looney's.Firstly, thank goodness some actual magic! I was really starting to get tired with the last few movies that the magic battles were just gun fights. Or sword fights if people are dueling. Like that fight in the cafe in part 1. So they're ducking behind tables and popping up to shoot projectiles at one another...except it's even worse because a bullet would go through that table, so what they're telling me is that I'd be better off with a gun.
This movie was still guilty of that occasionally, and frequently during the larger scale action scenes. But there was still significant more use of actual magic. Mind control curses, freezing the guy that came in through the window and then 'rewinding' back out, bringing golems to life, that badass shield, that ridiculous fire spell, etc. (Seriously, why does the henchman dude use the coolest spell in the movie
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Also, did that shield kill those guys that ran through it? It's about damn time we let the good guys kill someone the pussies. Mcgonigal's little flame attacks or whatever were cool too, and Snape totally pulled a Vincent turning into his cloak
Anyway, props there. And why is Voldemort the only one smart enough to realize that teleporting around while fighting is a really good idea?
I have to say though, this whole killing curse point unnecessarily complicates things. What's the point of it? You can obviously kill people through other means, and this one seems to have a MAJOR flaw - a sufficient amount of love will cause it to miscast - and yet the bad guys continue to use it. Why? Meanwhile the good guys NEVER use it for no adequate reason. If its only flaw is a weakness against love, well the good guys should be the ones exclusively using it, as that won't be an issue with Voldemort. Frankly, it seems like one of the LEAST cruel ways to kill someone. It's efficient, I guess, but strangle them with that rope spell, roast them with fire, cook them with a lightning bolt Accio their heart out of their chest, do whatever that badass-looking spell Ron's mom did to Bellatrix, that looked pretty effective.
Sorry, not a problem with the movie, it just seems like the killing curse thing causes plot issues.
Anyway the effects were fantastic, again, that shield was awesome. As looney said that scene with the ghost was great and I agree that Radcliffe really stepped up his acting here. I liked how Voldemort says that Harry was dishonorable for allowing others to fight and die for him, when that's precisely what he has been doing for the entire damn series. It was great to see Mcgonigle do some stuff, and I wish we could have seen more of the teachers doing stuff. My sister was bawling from the start for no real reason, the saddest part for me was with his family in the woods.
Alan Rickman remains awesome. It was made moreso by the knowledge that Rowling let him in on the spoiler about him so he could inject it into his performance over the years. They did a good job showing his backstory, I especially like when he's calling out Dumbledore for using Harry. And you know, nothing helps Dumbledore's case except for the fact that Harry doesn't die.
And on that note, I do have a question forthe bigger HP nerds looney, it's been awhile since I read the book and I don't remember. Why is it that Harry doesn't die? As I said I don't remember too much of the book and thought, while watching it, that the resurrection stone was going to be the reason, but obviously not. So how did he survive?
This movie was still guilty of that occasionally, and frequently during the larger scale action scenes. But there was still significant more use of actual magic. Mind control curses, freezing the guy that came in through the window and then 'rewinding' back out, bringing golems to life, that badass shield, that ridiculous fire spell, etc. (Seriously, why does the henchman dude use the coolest spell in the movie
) Also, did that shield kill those guys that ran through it? It's about damn time we let the good guys kill someone the pussies.
Mcgonigal's little flame attacks or whatever were cool too, and Snape totally pulled a Vincent turning into his cloak Anyway, props there. And why is Voldemort the only one smart enough to realize that teleporting around while fighting is a really good idea?
I have to say though, this whole killing curse point unnecessarily complicates things. What's the point of it? You can obviously kill people through other means, and this one seems to have a MAJOR flaw - a sufficient amount of love will cause it to miscast - and yet the bad guys continue to use it. Why? Meanwhile the good guys NEVER use it for no adequate reason. If its only flaw is a weakness against love, well the good guys should be the ones exclusively using it, as that won't be an issue with Voldemort. Frankly, it seems like one of the LEAST cruel ways to kill someone. It's efficient, I guess, but strangle them with that rope spell, roast them with fire, cook them with a lightning bolt Accio their heart out of their chest, do whatever that badass-looking spell Ron's mom did to Bellatrix, that looked pretty effective.
Sorry, not a problem with the movie, it just seems like the killing curse thing causes plot issues.
Anyway the effects were fantastic, again, that shield was awesome. As looney said that scene with the ghost was great and I agree that Radcliffe really stepped up his acting here. I liked how Voldemort says that Harry was dishonorable for allowing others to fight and die for him, when that's precisely what he has been doing for the entire damn series. It was great to see Mcgonigle do some stuff, and I wish we could have seen more of the teachers doing stuff. My sister was bawling from the start for no real reason, the saddest part for me was with his family in the woods.
Alan Rickman remains awesome. It was made moreso by the knowledge that Rowling let him in on the spoiler about him so he could inject it into his performance over the years. They did a good job showing his backstory, I especially like when he's calling out Dumbledore for using Harry. And you know, nothing helps Dumbledore's case except for the fact that Harry doesn't die.
And on that note, I do have a question for
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I can answer that question, I think. 
I do belive it all boils down the the whole "being protected by love" thing. I can't remember if it was a remnant of his mother's spell or if it was a result of him inadvertently casting his own love spell for his friends. I think it was mostly the latter, but the movie doesn't cover this aspect at all.
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Double Growth
Well, especially if that's the reason, again I ask: Why the hell would Voldemort use that spell on him again?! Not only did he survive it once, it almost killed HIM the last time, as it did again. And it's not even like it would be irrational to kill him in some other fashion, as I said any number of spells would have done the job. Indeed, the killing curse seems like the least vengeful way to kill someone anyway. It seems rather painless, as opposed to sectum sempra-ing him to death.
You know, it's funny. People complain that Sephiroth in ACC didn't go in for the kill quickly enough. Voldemort seems to have the exact opposite problem
I say again, this isn't a problem with the movie, or even have much to do with how I feel about the series. The magic has just always kinda confused me in its vagueness.
You know, it's funny. People complain that Sephiroth in ACC didn't go in for the kill quickly enough. Voldemort seems to have the exact opposite problem
I say again, this isn't a problem with the movie, or even have much to do with how I feel about the series. The magic has just always kinda confused me in its vagueness.
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The reason Harry didn't die in the forest was because he had control over all three of the Deathly Hallows.
He was struck with the curse with a wand he was in command of. This aspect was explained at the end of the film.
He had the resurrection stone located inside the inside the snitch. This is how he was able to see his dead loved ones.
He also had the invisibility cloak, but this part was cut from the film.
When Voldemort revived himself back in GOF, he took in Harry's blood. The fact that Voldemort had his blood, imbued with his mother's protection also helped anchor him to life. For that reason a killing curse would not have worked on Voldemort either. The death-protection charm transfers across blood ties. Which is why Harry was put with the Dursley's in the first place. So when Voldemort casted the killing curse on Harry in the forest, he only served to destroy the part of himself that was within Harry. Harry, being a master of death, had the choice to continue living or to "go on" in the train.
Also as far as I'm aware, the only character to EVER cause the killing curse to misfire completely was Lily Potter. Which is kind of dumb in itself, because I'm sure there are tons of people who sacrificed themselves for the sake of others. But... eh, what can you do. Harry's sacrifice conferred a certain amount of protection on his friends but not total protection. But yeah, this was part was really vague and idk.
I do have a fan-theory that suggests that the charm can only be enacted with the possession with at least one or more of the Deathly Hallows. This would explain why Lily and Harry would be the only ones to do it, since the invisibility cloak belonged to James at that point of time.
Still. The magic of HP is pretty vague so I can't say for sure. Also bear in mind I've only read Deathy Hallows once... the night it came out
He was struck with the curse with a wand he was in command of. This aspect was explained at the end of the film.
He had the resurrection stone located inside the inside the snitch. This is how he was able to see his dead loved ones.
He also had the invisibility cloak, but this part was cut from the film.
When Voldemort revived himself back in GOF, he took in Harry's blood. The fact that Voldemort had his blood, imbued with his mother's protection also helped anchor him to life. For that reason a killing curse would not have worked on Voldemort either. The death-protection charm transfers across blood ties. Which is why Harry was put with the Dursley's in the first place. So when Voldemort casted the killing curse on Harry in the forest, he only served to destroy the part of himself that was within Harry. Harry, being a master of death, had the choice to continue living or to "go on" in the train.
Also as far as I'm aware, the only character to EVER cause the killing curse to misfire completely was Lily Potter. Which is kind of dumb in itself, because I'm sure there are tons of people who sacrificed themselves for the sake of others. But... eh, what can you do. Harry's sacrifice conferred a certain amount of protection on his friends but not total protection. But yeah, this was part was really vague and idk.
I do have a fan-theory that suggests that the charm can only be enacted with the possession with at least one or more of the Deathly Hallows. This would explain why Lily and Harry would be the only ones to do it, since the invisibility cloak belonged to James at that point of time.
Still. The magic of HP is pretty vague so I can't say for sure. Also bear in mind I've only read Deathy Hallows once... the night it came out