Hopes for Remake & Rebirth (gameplay/combat)

[Vyzzuvazzadth]

I wouldn't worry too much, they're likely to be very different styles. Force and I go through frame-by-frame and discuss things as they come up, there's only minor editing so it had much more of a "presentation" type feel to any traditional video. It's about an hour long.

I wasn't being serious anyway ^^
Not sure how long my video will be, but I'm splitting the analysis up into 2 parts again (scenes & battle). Both in total probably more than 1 hour.

Feel free to hop on board with the team and make one of your own for the TLS channel though

I started to include a shout out for TheLifestream.net in my introductions to make my videos compatible with this site (suggestion by Flintlock).
It reads: "For those who don’t know, TheLifestream.net is a fan site dedicated to bringing you Final Fantasy VII news and extensive in-depth information about the game’s universe and beyond. You can find their website in the description down below."
This way, featuring my videos on the front page (or even on your YouTube channel?) becomes a possibility.

 

[Lex]

That depends, are you ready to swim into the belly of the whale!?



. Kidding. We will discuss a collab soon though. When there's an opportunity we can chat about featuring one of your videos on the front page or otherwise

 

[FFShinra]

Idea: They never abandon the motorcycle and buggy until they reach the swamp. That way, if they have the world map implemented, they can use the vehicles to explain why the distance is so "small" between places.

I fully understand this is a half-baked idea I'm simply putting here, but I thought it interesting.

 

[ChipNoir]

Idea: They never abandon the motorcycle and buggy until they reach the swamp. That way, if they have the world map implemented, they can use the vehicles to explain why the distance is so "small" between places.

I fully understand this is a half-baked idea I'm simply putting here, but I thought it interesting.

I'd rather compromise and have the use of roads/freeways as fast travel be a trial by g-bike combat.

 

[FFShinra]

It'd be a short fast travel, given the lack of such roadways through the mountains and swamp.

 

[Ite]

What about after the swamp though? Surely that’s just as long of a trek? Or will Chocobo a become more permanent after that point? Hmmm...

The things they are probably pulling their hair out over at S-E headquarters is monumental. No wonder we’ve only seen Midgar so far.

 

[ChipNoir]

What about after the swamp though? Surely that’s just as long of a trek? Or will Chocobo a become more permanent after that point? Hmmm...

The things they are probably pulling their hair out over at S-E headquarters is monumental. No wonder we’ve only seen Midgar so far.

Those are the points where you just throw realistic logic out the window and do what's best for player enjoyment. RE2 is the most realistic the Resident Evil franchise has ever gotten, but it hasn't done away with loading people down with way more equipment than they should be able to carry (Even if you have to earn ammo pouches) and they still have the physics-defying storage boxes.

 

[FFShinra]

The only reason I bring up the motorcycle and buggy is to keeping it around a little longer logically with the excuse to use it as lore justification for the world map.

 

[ChipNoir]

The only reason I bring up the motorcycle and buggy is to keeping it around a little longer logically with the excuse to use it as lore justification for the world map.

Nah. I'd rather just have continued use of the G-Bike mini game. They put a ...decent amount of effort into the mobile version, and with some adjustment (MAKE IT NOT A TEMPLE RUN WITH THREE LANE OPTIONS) and it'd be a perfect alternative to open-world zones.

The world map is dead. Let it rest in peace damnit.

 

[FFShinra]

I did say IF they do the world map, the idea should be done....

And until they confirm or deny either way, it's perfectly fine to speculate about it.

 

[Solordinn]

So who kind of thinks this might be a good basis for a world map/zone in either ff7 remake or ff16 (whenever that is)

 

[FFShinra]

I feel like that would be more work for relatively little gain for FF7R. 16 on the other hand, yes. Provided 15 didn't make them gunshy again.

 

[hleV]

Cloud could jump that distance. Aerith too, if she's scared enough

 

[Cannon_Fodder]

Hello everybody! I haven’t posted here in eight (8!) years, so I’m happy to see that my account still works!

Despite loving the OG and (parts) of the Compilation, I was never too excited about the remake. Then the State of Play trailer dropped, and now it’s my most anticipated game by a significant margin! I just finished replaying the OG last night, and that got me thinking about the gameplay in the remake. Here are some things I'd like to see/am excited about:

• Adding some way to save your favourite materia combinations and equip them to different characters would be cool.
• This is a gimme, but better endgame character balance would be nice.
• More materia, especially command and support materia.
• Speaking of materia, I wonder how they’re going to handle all the different types of counter materia.
• I can’t wait to see how unique each character feels in an arpg.
• I really hope Tifa doesn’t use slots for her limit. Mostly because I suck at them.

I apologize if any of this has been discussed before, I’m a little late to the party

 

[ForceStealer]

What about the State of Play trailer got you excited that the old trailers didn't, just out of curiosity?

 

[Cannon_Fodder]

What about the State of Play trailer got you excited that the old trailers didn't, just out of curiosity?

Hmm, good question. I think the simplest way to put it is that the old trailers seemed like they were for a pretty good-looking, modern game rather than a remake of FFVII. If you took Cloud and Barret out of those trailers, I'm not so sure I'd know what they were for right away. Some elements in the announcement trailer were a little too sci-fi, like the buildings and the passenger train. The PSX 2015 trailer was too serious and dark (in both tone and lighting). It was like they got close to feeling like FFVII, but lost a lot of the magic on the way.

The State of Play trailer seemed to fix all these problems; it was brighter, it was more colourful, and the combat looked more interesting. The art direction was on point, with recognizable enemies, older buildings, and retro cars. On top of that, it just seemed like a better all-around game now. The performances (facial and vocal) were better. The gameplay was smoother. The effects were flashier, but still evoked the original (that Cross Slash effect is just perfect).

And finally, it seems like a real game now. "More information in June" was the perfect way to end it.

 

[Kain424]

Hey, welcome back!

Honestly, I'm not entirely sold on what I've seen so far. I completely agree with your assessment of the teaser trailer, but I need to see a bit more. I am currently loving the animation style and, as you said, "colourful" look to everything. Oddly enough, it was the version of Aps that almost made me stand up out of my chair and cheer.

 

[Ite]

Once I got over the density of the trailer — how insanely quick it’s cut — I would agree this is a major step in the right direction and I’m surprised in retrospect that I wasn’t more critical of the PSX trailer. Then again anything that half-resembles FF7 is basically frameable to me.

 

[ForceStealer]

Right, I definitely think all the design decisions in the new trailer were improvements. But I was no less excited when the PSX trailer came out, which is why I asked, haha. The brighter colors are better, but I didn't really note a lack of color in the old trailer, since there wasn't this to compare it to, you know?

 

[Kain424]

I definitely noted the darkness in the old trailer, but I kind of chalked it up to artistic direction. I figured there was an intent to be dark and sickly in Midgar, and that they would brighten things considerably once the party leaves the city.

Interestingly, I found an old video I made whereupon I commented about that trailer something along the lines of how I'd hoped for a different style that more aptly bridged the gap between the cartoony polygonal look of the original game and that of Advent Children. So I am happy to report to my past self that they seem to be going in that direction now.

::past self gives present self a high five::

 

[Clement Rage]

I want the CPR mini game to be realistic CPR. Could save lives.

 

[Jairus]

I wonder if we'll see Cid's famous high-steppin' run? That would be funny seeing it in full HD like that. And more of the bike and truck for the group after leaving Midgar could work, just have them usable until you reach the swamp. It would make sense to have the road end there and thus present the need for a chocobo that could get through places the vehicles can't and outrun the Zolom. Which, now that I think about it, could be turned into its own minigame. You would have to outrun and outmaneuver the Zolom until you get out of the swamp or it'll overtake you and you have to fight it, maybe with an opportunity to escape after doing a set amount of damage rather than killing it, which could be made to be impossible at this point in the game, you would just keep hitting it enough to escape each time it caught up to you, and if it knocks everyone out it would be game over, not just starting back at the beginning of the swamp, thereby increasing the stakes. This approach would also, I think, add impact to the group's discovery of Sephiroth's handiwork at the entrance to the Mythril Mines—after finally escaping the swamp and the snake beast they couldn't even come close to actually killing, they find one dead and impaled on a tree like in the OG, thus illustrating Sephiroth's sheer strength through the fact that he was able to so utterly destroy a beast Cloud and the others could barely survive an encounter with at this point.

 

[Ite]

Cool ideas! Although in the OG you only start back at the beginning of the swamp if the zolom “removes” a party member — the fact that their HP is above 0 is why you are revived.

 

[Jairus]

Cool ideas! Although in the OG you only start back at the beginning of the swamp if the zolom “removes” a party member — the fact that their HP is above 0 is why you are revived.

Oh ok, I forgot about that. Makes sense, though. Glad you like the ideas, I just felt making the Zolom chase more involved and interactive would be a better way to go.

 

[Lulcielid]

Observation from the new trailer released yesterday. It looks like when Cloud attacks the Mono Drive enemy in the air that he automatically jumped to then attack to close the distance when the attack was pressed, rather than there being a manual jump then an attack press in the air to hit it, so it still makes me wonder if there is any manual jump. It's kinda like Aerial Sweep in KH2, though that works more on a closer range to the enemy and if you are a certain distance from an enemy it won't do it, compared to how far the Mono Drive is to Cloud he still closes the distance. So I'm guessing this is how you'll be able to target larger enemies by targeting higher points on their body to attack those so you won't be stuck attacking their feet the whole time, and it does look like there is some follow up aerial attacks you can do when in the air, but I wonder if it is a full combo like on the ground but of aerial attacks or if it will just alternate between a left and right swing each time you press attack in the air.