SPOILERS INTERmission Chapter 1 Spoiler Discussion

Tetsujin

he/they
AKA
Tets
Me trying out photo mode:

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I'm fairly disappointed with how limited the camera movement and focal length options are though. No aperture either, booo
I hope they can improve it for the next part.
 

waw

Pro Adventurer
Who are the "old buddies" Sonon mentioned when talking to Nayo about why AVALANCHE decided to work with them? He mentions AVALANCHE chose to enlist their help so that Wutai wouldn't go back to working with their old buddies....

Who could that be?

I thought he meant Barret's cell. Like with Barret, Wutai would destroy far more
 

Theozilla

Kaiju Member
We also have Zhijie which is a Chinese name like Tseng and Zhijie is not Wutaian either. So yeah, those things don't seem to be good indicators.
Actually, Zhijie is Wutaian, that’s literally part of his character description.
Maybe it's Fuhito's extremist wing of Avalanche?
That’s probably who Yuffie and Sonon encountered in the past and made them assume that they shouldn’t trust anyone from Avalanche, but they didn’t work work with them.
The “old friends” line is referring to Barret’s splinter cell.
 

FFShinra

Sharp Shinra Shill
The Wutaian the NPCs are referring to say guy not girl. I think Sonon was picking up shifts at the Seventh Heaven in the 3 days before Yuffie showed up.

Also, if the thing was about Tifa, Nayo would be getting the same crap, given that she basically looks like Tifa's nerdy twin sister.

EDIT-

Also, THE MUSIC. Been thinking about Fort Condor's remake version all day, and I REALLY loved the jazz chase.
 

Theozilla

Kaiju Member
I'm in the same boat as Tets. Obviously W is a codeword, but there isn't any dialogue that suggests that he is a W himself, and his tone and syntax imply that they are an ethnic group he is not a part of.
Yuffie comments to Sonon when they are following Zhijie, she asks if he’s Wutaian (because of his skills at avoiding capture) and Sonon responds it’s complicated, that’s implying his Wutaian heritage to me. Anyways none of that changes the fact his official character bio states he’s Wutaian too.
 

FFShinra

Sharp Shinra Shill
English version doesn't say girl, thats for sure.

Guess we need to know what the Japanese version says to know for sure then. But it makes less sense if its girl unless they are just adding dialogue to infer that some unknown NPC of Wutaian heritage is picking up shifts at Tifa's bar, as color dialogue about the increased racism in the city.
 

Ite

Save your valediction (she/her)
AKA
Ite
Yuffie comments to Sonon when they are following Zhijie, she asks if he’s Wutaian (because of his skills at avoiding capture) and Sonon responds it’s complicated, that’s implying his Wutaian heritage to me. Anyways none of that changes the fact his official character bio states he’s Wutaian too.

Must’ve missed that, thanks!
 

Eerie

Fire and Blood
By the way, the translation is different in French in this scene :mon: Also @odekopeko seems to remember that in JP, they don't use any pronoum in the sentence I linked earlier, so lolz. I still think it's Tifa because I don't see Barret accepting anyone but their tiny group working at 7th Heaven.

Coming back to Marle, here is what she says:

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"But you should let it go. I've never seen a guy as gruff and blinkered as him."

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"You'd have to be extremely patient, or then, push him very hard."

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"He doesn't show his feelings easily."

I don't know which is the correct one between English and French, but the French is so different that it makes me think that it's the thing - why say that compared to the English version? And the last screenshot is clearly a reference to the Lifestream scene (and CoT) too. You can see her worry for Tifa as she talks. I really enjoyed that scene <3
 

Theozilla

Kaiju Member
By the way, the translation is different in French in this scene :mon: Also @odekopeko seems to remember that in JP, they don't use any pronoum in the sentence I linked earlier, so lolz. I still think it's Tifa because I don't see Barret accepting anyone but their tiny group working at 7th Heaven.

Coming back to Marle, here is what she says:

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"But you should let it go. I've never seen a guy as gruff and blinkered as him."

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"You'd have to be extremely patient, or then, push him very hard."

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"He doesn't show his feelings easily."

I don't know which is the correct one between English and French, but the French is so different that it makes me think that it's the thing - why say that compared to the English version? And the last screenshot is clearly a reference to the Lifestream scene (and CoT) too. You can see her worry for Tifa as she talks. I really enjoyed that scene <3
How is what what Marle says in English significantly different? They’re both about how Cloud is emotionally constipated and closed off.
 

FFShinra

Sharp Shinra Shill
Barret doesn't own the Seventh Heaven. He just uses it as a base below the bar. From all NPC dialog, the bar belongs to Tifa. And speaking of Tifa, she is so well known in the neighborhood, they call her by name. Not just "someone". In short, it isn't her. There is no other reference in any of the games of her being assumed to be Wutaian either.

On a completely different subject, I am somewhat disappointed that Wutaian is the demonym for Wutai. Not sure what I'd use in its place, but Wutaian does not roll off the tongue for me. But for sure, this is the nittiest of picks.
 
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