James Cameron's Avatar

Cthulhu

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Yop
You know, I think you guys have ventured into the realm of overly nit-picking just to have something to complain about. Actually no, scratch that, I know you have. :monster:

The Smurfs did it before Cameron did. Isn't there a character in the movie that wants to eat the furries?
 

Tennyo

Higher Further Faster
There is absolutely nothing wrong with deconstructing, thinking critically and analyzing something; be it a movie, a book, media advertising. It's just who I am. I can't help that I notice these things and that they irk the hell out of me.

I understand what you're saying about Cameron wanting to pay homage, but I still think it was a cheap move.

Deconstructing the story, yes. But getting pissed because of where they got their sound effects from? That's going way too far, and doesn't matter. Not like they sounds horrible in context with the quality of the rest of the sounds/speaking/music of the movie. They are just things you've heard before. I don't see how this is the make or break point of the story.

The Smurfs did it before Cameron did. Isn't there a character in the movie that wants to eat the furries?

Um what? lol
 

Dee

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It doesn't make or break the story; it is one little thing that only adds to the list of things I was irritated with. What made you assume the ripping off of sounds from other movies is what killed the movie for me? There were a lot of things wrong, but that's just a minute detail.
 

Tennyo

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That vid was pretty good.

It doesn't make or break the story; it is one little thing that only adds to the list of things I was irritated with. What made you assume the ripping off of sounds from other movies is what killed the movie for me? There were a lot of things wrong, but that's just a minute detail.

Well it is what you came in here ranting and raving about.
 

Dee

sweet dee
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Bun, Academic
Indeed it was; one thing, anyway. I have plenty other qualms about the flick I could rant and rave about as well, but apparently that'll earn me strife from the fangirls and boys.

Resident Evil 5 did it first.
 

OneWingedDemon

NOT AMUSED
Honestly, Avatar isn't going to win any awards for amazing writing.
It is a story that has many times been seen before and yes, I do agree that the characters aren't fleshed out ala Godfather style. There's good and then there's evil. Period.

I don't, however, believe that it was trying to be that so I don't think it's fair to say Avatar was a horrible movie. Or even a bad one. I guess much of it is preference and can't argue with something as subjective as that, but I didn't enjoy The Little Mermaid or Pocahontas any less despite the lack of amazingly fleshed out characters. I saw Avatar as an escapist epic.

Although I agree with much of what has been said here, its faults were not jarring. They did not stand out to me until after I left the theater. Looking back, yes, it was a linear story that was fairly predictable and hard ass soldiers throwing lines like "we'll fight terror with terror". But only in looking back. I was fully engrossed in the story when I watched. I never pulled out to think "ok, bad, bad, predictable, one-dimensional, needs more backstory, needs more fleshing out" etc. And that to me is good storytelling. It may not be good writing. But I think Avatar succeeds in sucking you into a different world completely and in immersing you in the story. I think it's unfair to say that its merits rest solely on the visuals (or as the articles that piss me off -- the "dumb" audiences). Tranformers had awesome CGI. Not as loved, if I remember correctly. Just saying.
 

Tennyo

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Avatar is apparently the best picture according to the Golden Globes. :monster:

@Dee: Why don't you share them? It sounds like you have qualms with more substantial elements of the movie.
 

Dee

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If the Best Picture award solely dealt with the picture, then I'd agree. But not with what it actually is traditionally awarded for.

Agreed. Visually, it was well done. In almost every other aspect, it is extremely conventional.
 

looneymoon

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Rishi
Well, a few years ago the Oscars felt CRASH was the best movie of the year :monster:

Since then, I have never taken any award show seriously
 

Cthulhu

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Yop
The movie award judges are people after all, and people are influenced by ads, hype, and nine-figure numbers spent to create a movie. Obviously, story and originality play only a small part in the actual judging.
 

null

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Chinese government just pulled Avatar out of all its theaters for selling too well... except the 3-D theaters, where it made most of its money. What a bunch of flakes.
 

X-SOLDIER

Harbinger O Great Justice
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X
Warning - 22 mins long.

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/avatar/extended-featurette-creating-the-world-of-pandora

It's a look at how the film was made, and some of the totally awesome technology that was developed. Seriously, the virtual camera is the coolest thing ever for film makers, and full performance capture allowing editing before the CG is finished is pretty amazing also. Either way - hopefully this is enjoyed by/interesting to some of you lot.


X :neo:
 

Raquelborn

"I slice your ass in 4."
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Raq, Raquel.
I watched the movie in 3D with a couple of friends not so long ago and it's amazing to look at. (Although I did have to take painkillers half-way through, no joke.)

Definitely watch it while it's still in cinemas people!
 

Ⓐaron

Factiō Rēpūblicāna dēlenda est.
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The Man, V
But not when there's at least ten times as much hippies (which I'm sure will have multiplied in the future) that'll go 'NOES PROTECT TEH WHALES SMURFS'. They'll be in the major governments by then, too.
The problem was that earth was a wasteland by then, so the chances of such people controlling the government were pretty slim. Most people would be starving for whatever resources could help them.

Besides, aren't the smurfs supposed to be vastly superior to mankind? If they are, they could simply go 'I sell you buffalo hides unobtanium, you sell us weapons, Loud Anal Mist has spoken, ugh', and strike an excellent deal out of it. I mean, they're not savages, are they?

...nevermind, they are. Vastly superior, yet still dumb / na'ïve as fuck.
They didn't want to sell the unobtanium or fuck up their trees. Cameron has hinted that the unobtanium is what makes the mountains float among other things so it's probably for the best that they don't.
 

Cthulhu

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Yop
Excellent, mankind goes to an alien planet to collect farts. :monster:.

Good chance I'll watch it tomorrow btw.
 
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