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I think I'll eventually be silent after another day or maybe even now.

Though I don't think Nomura has the complete Kingdom Hearts series in his basement since he once mentioned even he doesn't know where the story is going. But if we're a bit more lucky, maybe Nomura can squeeze in a bit in making future KH titles, especially since Union X needs to be completed now more than ever. At the moment, we're not expecting any KH for a while.

At least the game sold a bit over 5 million copies globally for the past two weeks.
 
Strangelove

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i have started this now and what did they do to the gummi ship, i love it. i just wish it had a clearer map (also if the main game had a full map like kh3d)

everything looks lovely and is nice to play

but i am sure japanese mickey’s voice changed after the first part. do you have cold or something m8, what’s going on. am i hearing things

finding hidden mickey symbols might drive me mad though
 
Ryuman

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Strangelove said:
i have started this now and what did they do to the gummi ship, i love it. i just wish it had a clearer map (also if the main game had a full map like kh3d)

everything looks lovely and is nice to play

but i am sure japanese mickey’s voice changed after the first part. do you have cold or something m8, what’s going on. am i hearing things

finding hidden mickey symbols might drive me mad though
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Mickey's voice did change. Recently Takanori Hoshino took over the role from Takashi Aoyagi. They both worked on KH3.
 
Strangelove

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i don't know if i'm just learning now or forgot and am relearning that aoyagi is actually a college professor and voicing mickey mouse was a side gig for him, which sounds like an awesome way to live your life and i'm super jealous
 
Strangelove

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now just imagine kh1 atlantica but with ursula belting out 'poor unfortunate souls' in the middle of the level

:ultros:

(also why didn't they make ultros an optional boss in atlantica, he can try to hit on ursula, do i have to come up with all your ideas for you square jeez)


i still wish there was a full map instead of just a mini-map (maybe it's because i played 3d right before starting), but i do like the scale of the levels. in the older games i remember some of the levels felt like a series of boxes (kh1 wonderland being the most noticeable, that first garden area in particular). but now there is a sense of scale

and there's people just hanging around. another thing about older worlds was that they often felt pretty empty, i think there might have been less than half a dozen townspeople in the whole previous series? actually kh2 twilight town might have had more, but the disney worlds were ghost towns. but now there's people mulling around in worlds.

anyway i'm having a good time

is there a bonus for playing the classic kingdom games? i think i've got almost all of them now but i've not touched any of them, but if i get a prize for it i will. i will power up my high powered modern hd console and play these little game & watch things for trivial digital trinkets.
 
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Strangelove said:
is there a bonus for playing the classic kingdom games? i think i've got almost all of them now but i've not touched any of them, but if i get a prize for it i will. i will power up my high powered modern hd console and play these little game & watch things for trivial digital trinkets.
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You get a Keyblade for playing all of them. I don't think there is a high score, just set your own.
 
Lulcielid

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Now that that KH3 is out and played for a over 35hs, I'll say KH1 is still the overall better game in the franchise, every other entry may surpass it in a specific area (like combat, platforming, presentation, writing, etc) but still being degress below KH1 in the rest.

KH1 is basically a 8.5/10.0 game in every category.
 
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I hear the DLC, the paid one, will be released by the end of this year. While I am looking forward to it because it's said to have a
Story expansion and another playable character(my money's on either Xion or maybe (but unlikely) Roxas)
, and I am hoping it will be out by the end of this year, the other half of me, given the last time Nomura made release year promises that ended up delayed, says that it won't be out until early in 2020 at the latest.

Still, at least it's been confirmed. Now it's waiting the discussion and confirmination on whether the series will continue or KH3 is truly the final game of the franchise.
 
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Had a feeling there was gonna be a gap game between KH3 and KH4, like Chain of Memories was alongside 358/2 Days(though the latter game was released after KH2 so at least it's one game before KH4.) But hey, whatever works and now I'm looking forward to that as well as KH4. Though I have a feeling the two future games(if they decide to make them) will most likely be on PS5(or whatever Sony's gonna call it-I think it'll just be PS5 if they can't come up with another name but you never know) since PS4 is almost at the end of it's life-span and I doubt a KH game will be made on Switch, especially since Pokemon Sword and Pokemon Shield coming out on that console this year.
 
Makoeyes987

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Knowledge of what exactly? :mon:

The explanation regarding
Terra's return through reunification of Xehanort's heart and body thanks to the defeat of Xemnas and Ansem is a perfect example of needless convoluted nonsense.

It's Terra's present body that is restored, but it's his heart called from the past that's occupying said present body???

Why? Just... Why? How does that make any sense and not cause a sort of temporal distortion or contradiction?

Oh well, who cares, he's back. One way or another.
 
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Wait....

Fuck, I thought it was since Ultimania translations were here. I got the threads confused.
 
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Makoeyes987 said:
Knowledge of what exactly? :mon:

The explanation regarding
Terra's return through reunification of Xehanort's heart and body thanks to the defeat of Xemnas and Ansem is a perfect example of needless convoluted nonsense.

It's Terra's present body that is restored, but it's his heart called from the past that's occupying said present body???

Why? Just... Why? How does that make any sense and not cause a sort of temporal distortion or contradiction?

Oh well, who cares, he's back. One way or another.
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I understand your confusion, but you've got one important detail wrong.
The defeat of Ansem and Xemnas led to the recompletion of Terra and Master Xehanort (As I suspected all along). The rub is that MX had control over Terra's heart so for all intents and purposes he's just a body. The Norts call Xehanort's past heart from when he first possessed Terra in BBS to occupy the present version. During the fight, Terra's actual heart (Currently restricted by the Guardian) breaks free and boots out the past Xehanort. Hey presto, Terra is back to normal. The actual mechanics of MX keeping Terra's heart at bay are a bit wishy-washy, but in a way that's pretty par the course.
 
Makoeyes987

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But that's not what Nomura said in the interview.

He said that Terra's restored heart is his heart from the past. So I don't get how his heart from the past can be made to somehow inhabit is his restored body of the present and it still properly be him and not just a paradoxical existence of the past inhabiting the present.

I get how Ansem and Xemnas' defeated recompleted Master Xehanort. That's not where my confusion lies at all.
 
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Makoeyes987 said:
But that's not what Nomura said in the interview.

He said that Terra's restored heart is his heart from the past. So I don't get how his heart from the past can be made to somehow inhabit is his restored body of the present and it still properly be him and not just a paradoxical existence of the past inhabiting the present.

I get how Ansem and Xemnas' defeated recompleted Master Xehanort. That's not where my confusion lies at all.
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No, he said Terranort's heart was from the past. I'm now assuming MX kept Terra's heart within the dark realm. Here are the exact questions from the Ultimania (KHInsider translation):

Nomura: By all rights, Terra should have been revived as himself at that point in time. However, his heart was still in the clutches of Xehanort, and it was unable to go back, and the shell of his body was the only thing that revived. Then, Xehanort brought the heart of Terranort from the past and put it in that shell of a body he once controlled.
—From when was Terra's heart inside the Guardian*?
Nomura: Terra and Xehanort's hearts were eternally struggling against each other within Terranort. This process meant Terra's heart was caught constantly moving back and forth from its original position to the Guardian. By the way, the official name of the Guardian is "the guy behind him" (laughs).

I can see why that last answer can give you the impression that regular Terra is from the past. However, when the Guardian appears to save Ven and Aqua Terranort exclaims (From the ENG script) "How?! You fell to the dark-". I think this shock goes beyond his usual annoyance when Terra was interrupting the possession before. Terra ejects from the Guardian and boots out Xehanort with Sora's help. Afterwards Terra thanks Aqua and Ven for guiding him back. I imagine the Guardian itself isn't a being from the past either, but a dark force that waits to be summoned.
And here's Terra-Xehanort's entry from the table in the Ultimania explaining the Org XIII members (From Reddit):

Terra-Xehanort | Terra's body containing Terra-Xehanort's heart from the past. | Terra's heart returns to its body, reviving Terra (Terra-Xehanort's heart is eliminated).
Sorry to continue this in the non-spoiler topic. Was a good chance to rewatch some scenes and get teary though.
 
Makoeyes987

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Okay, I think I got a handle of it now.

Damn, it took quite an in-depth, long explanation to make sense of it but thank you :mon:

So essentially... TWO bodies for "Xehanort" came back. Xehanort's original body which his original heart inhabited, and Terra's body that was basically hollow, right?

So Terra's body was a hollow shell, filled with the heart of Terra-nort from the past. And upon his defeat... Terra's real heart came back to his body. Terra's heart was in the Guardian and subjegated in his body, all along and was able to go back to his body once freed.

That about the gist of it?
 
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