Ryushikaze
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More things than the compilation are canon. Titles which have been ignored resounding since their publication tend not to be canon or within continuity, seeing as how the creators have completely ignored them.
There were issues with DoC when it was released, relatively soon after Maiden. There are still narrative issues with CC, and and the contrast between Maiden and COLW that makes Aerith look an idiot.
To write a little something extra for the fans. It turned out not to be where they wanted to go narratively. They ignored it. IN THE NEXT TITLE, they ignored it. Yes, they have since retconned the bit that did massively retcon Maiden, but my point is not that it is retconned. My point is that Square has NEVER given a shit about Maiden, to the point where the opening of their next FFVII game contradicted an entire chapter of the thing.
It's kind of irrelevant, though, since my argument is not based on fitting it into the present narrative or not, but the complete lack of regard it has been been shown from DoC, to existing post index in the UO, to being mentioned or referenced literally nowhere, neither in the UO itself or any other guidebook novella or game.
No. You're being equivocal here. In Maiden, she laments that they are all entirely gone, including her mother, last of the fullblood Cetra. In COLW, she finds those who have not diffused. This may not be a literal X was at B and was also at Q contradiction, but it does make Aerith look a bit pants on head stupid for lamenting that she was definitely the last of the Cetra even here only to turn over a glowing spirit rock and there they are.
Dissidia is not part of the Compilation, just as FFT is not. Both are still canon, and though in the long term irrelevant, to FF7.
No. It WAS a contradiction. It was later changed but for entirely different reasons. That is why it is still relevant. Because not only does S-E not give a crap about keeping consistent with Maiden, they never have.
No. Firstly, ISS is a Dragon Quest property. It's never been canon to that series either. Of course, Yuna being able to play monopoly against herself separated by a couple years should have been a tipoff.
And Dirge of Cerberus went and ignored Maiden. Yes, this was later changed for reasons unrelated to Maiden that made it no longer contradict with Maiden explicitly, but they didn't give a shit about it to begin with.
Which is another point AGAINST Maiden, you realize. Even as it was written and released, the core group was releasing a game that casually pissed over a significant chunk of the game. They didn't care.
I'm sure she's attracted to more of Zack, but the story's clearly referencing her first meeting with him and what grabbed her first in terms of attraction. The story simply got that part of the dynamic wrong.
And yeah, it was playful but it was also kinda distant. Like she did intend to keep Zack at arms length because he'd never be Cloud and that was the only one for her. There's playful teasing and then friendly teasing with the undercurrent of "we're just friends." And the latter seemed the case in the story.
Of course it flows well with Maiden, because that's what it wants to portray. But that's not what any other Compilation title wants to state, see?
LOL you attempted to, and explained 85% of them away. But there's still 15% that's still...just not explainable except by saying its not right.
Those 15% and the complete lack of any followup on its themes of any kind or corroboration in ANY other text are why I say that even if it's still technically canon, then it is definitely novella non grata. No one at SE considers it.
Contrast this to LO, which has been removed from continuity, but which is still considered narratively worthwhile, being included for discussion in guidebooks even after its removal.
