New Ghostbusters film
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I am genuinely curious if the film isn't great if anyone will listen to actual criticisms about it, or if it's just gonna be cast under the blanket of, "they just hated it because they hate women" since there's a lot of jackasses out there dogpiling their bigotry on top of everything.
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Has to be said though, the "As women!" thing is just as cheap a trope / variant as the "As Kids!" trope.
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Fail on world building, which is probably the biggest appeal of supernatural/fantasy stories for me. And one of the reasons the original Ghostbusters worked.
It's like the prop and costume designers didn't talk to the set designers about what era it was supposed to be in. The set design is 2010s, but the costume and props (especially the ghostbuster equipment) are from the '80s. 'Cause seriously... magnetic tape? who uses that when when we've got digital? It's like they wanted both the retro nostalgia factor and the "set right now" at the same time and it just doesn't look right.
The other things that bugged me are things that were in the original Ghostbusters and are now the completely opposite way around. The first big one is the cause of the upswing in paranormal activity. In the original, it's 'cause an ancient deity from outside our dimension is trying to break in though a contently designed skyscraper. There's no mention of a person actively trying to bring the deity though. "All" the ghostbusters have to do is stop it. Now it's because someone who's possessed is doing something to make the paranormal more active. Thing is, possession is something we've seen happen to another ghostbuster in the previous trailer, and they were able to stop it pretty easily. So it doesn't seem to be all that impressive a threat that they have to solve. Certainly not on the level of ancient deity powering everything up and we have to solve a problem we never anticipated we would have. The conflict the new movie is centered around seems like a pretty small problem that they seem to know already existed. There's not a sense that they have to do anything all that impressive to fix it.
The other big problem is a lack of internal suspension of disbelief. In the original Ghostbusters, nobody doubts that the ghostbusters are doing legitimate work for a real problem or that it's working. Everyone native to New York (including the government) is on board with them and when the EPA comes by and undoes everything, they all give him an "we told you so". All of which helps solidify that the supernatural stuff really is happening and is really a problem. Here it seems like it's going the route of "is the supernatural really real or not?" which seems like a cheap side-plot. Of course the supernatural is real! That's why we the audience are watching the movie! We're here to watch the Ghostbusters take out ghosts, not have to defend themselves from other skeptic scientists. Give us more screen time of that.
The feeling I'm getting from the trailers is that the cast of this movie feels a lot more passive/reactive to events then then the cast of the original did, which I'm not sure is a good change.
It's like the prop and costume designers didn't talk to the set designers about what era it was supposed to be in. The set design is 2010s, but the costume and props (especially the ghostbuster equipment) are from the '80s. 'Cause seriously... magnetic tape? who uses that when when we've got digital? It's like they wanted both the retro nostalgia factor and the "set right now" at the same time and it just doesn't look right.
The other things that bugged me are things that were in the original Ghostbusters and are now the completely opposite way around. The first big one is the cause of the upswing in paranormal activity. In the original, it's 'cause an ancient deity from outside our dimension is trying to break in though a contently designed skyscraper. There's no mention of a person actively trying to bring the deity though. "All" the ghostbusters have to do is stop it. Now it's because someone who's possessed is doing something to make the paranormal more active. Thing is, possession is something we've seen happen to another ghostbuster in the previous trailer, and they were able to stop it pretty easily. So it doesn't seem to be all that impressive a threat that they have to solve. Certainly not on the level of ancient deity powering everything up and we have to solve a problem we never anticipated we would have. The conflict the new movie is centered around seems like a pretty small problem that they seem to know already existed. There's not a sense that they have to do anything all that impressive to fix it.
The other big problem is a lack of internal suspension of disbelief. In the original Ghostbusters, nobody doubts that the ghostbusters are doing legitimate work for a real problem or that it's working. Everyone native to New York (including the government) is on board with them and when the EPA comes by and undoes everything, they all give him an "we told you so". All of which helps solidify that the supernatural stuff really is happening and is really a problem. Here it seems like it's going the route of "is the supernatural really real or not?" which seems like a cheap side-plot. Of course the supernatural is real! That's why we the audience are watching the movie! We're here to watch the Ghostbusters take out ghosts, not have to defend themselves from other skeptic scientists. Give us more screen time of that.
The feeling I'm getting from the trailers is that the cast of this movie feels a lot more passive/reactive to events then then the cast of the original did, which I'm not sure is a good change.
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It doesnt look as bad as people are making it out to be. The youtube comments are full of bandwagon jumpers and sanctimonious, self-righteous attention seekers... well that's just the internet in general.
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Apparently the OTHER side of the internet are going out of their goddamn minds with rage over this video (which is pretty fair and rational and someone voting with their wallet – which is what you're supposed to do for films you don't want to support):
Honestly, I can't wait for this film to come out just to watch the collective shitstorm of the internet come to a head over this whole bout of ridiculousness.
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Honestly, I can't wait for this film to come out just to watch the collective shitstorm of the internet come to a head over this whole bout of ridiculousness.
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Honestly this trailer was decent, it still hasn't convince me that this can actually at least a decent movie. People are overreacting though, when I saw the trailer it had just over 20,000 dislikes to 4,000 likes. It makes me think people just automatically hit dislike without even watching the video.
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Kate McKinnon & Chris Hemsworth were fantastic. Everyone else was forgettable, and there were a LOT of "jokes" (aka lines that were clearly written as humor) that fell completely flat. It was weird having a movie be so self aware that it was a reboot with all of its cameos, because it made it feel even more awkward that it wasn't a continuation of the series when it obviously could've been.
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Kate McKinnon & Chris Hemsworth were fantastic. Everyone else was forgettable, and there were a LOT of "jokes" (aka lines that were clearly written as humor) that fell completely flat. It was weird having a movie be so self aware that it was a reboot with all of its cameos, because it made it feel even more awkward that it wasn't a continuation of the series when it obviously could've been.
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Would you say that the reviewer I posted was spot on when he said (paraphrasing cause cant remember lol) "The first movies were great because the actors weren't in on the joke and just played it straight" , where as this movie seems to do the opposite in that regard.
I still haven't seen it but that seems to be a common occurrence in a lot of recent reboots or super late sequels that are generally bad
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Would you say that the reviewer I posted was spot on when he said (paraphrasing cause cant remember lol) "The first movies were great because the actors weren't in on the joke and just played it straight" , where as this movie seems to do the opposite in that regard.
I still haven't seen it but that seems to be a common occurrence in a lot of recent reboots or super late sequels that are generally bad
Yes. That's also why Kate McKinnon and Chris Hemsworth are so good, because they're just completely IN it as their characters, and don't seem to ape previous characters or attempt to make nods to the fact that they're in a Ghostbusters movie. They make me feel that the movie was a missed opportunity for greatness rather than a reboot disaster.
Honestly, if you're curious about the movie, they're the reason to watch it.
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I have never seen a video on that channel with so many dislikes in proportion to the likes. The comment section is a mess, too.
I have never seen a video on that channel with so many dislikes in proportion to the likes. The comment section is a mess, too.