I feel its like cutting off their nose in order to smell something in the future.
People already dont really care about this, why make the product even less appealing in order to open the door for something you need people to give a shit about? No one's going to care about Venom if it's pg13 . At least not enough to justify this already stupid plan Sony has with the spiderverse.
While it's rumored, I have a small piece of anecdotal evidence that seems to suggest otherwise.
I went to see The Meg the other day, and the Venom trailer was edited for content.
• The scene of the guy on the floor being overwhelmed by the symbiote had the CGI of the symbiote taken out.
• The scene of Eddie's leg being snapped back into place was missing.
• Venom says he'll eat the guys arms and legs, but references to face-eating have been removed.
If they're censoring that stuff for PG-13-in-theater trailers, but not for the main internet trailers, it kind of suggests that the film definitely already has a lot of non-PG-13 content that people are familiar with. I feel like the film's gonna be what it's gonna be, and if Logan & Deadpool haven't given Sony the confidence that making an R-Rated film that deserves to be R-Rated, I don't think anything will.
In case anybody else wants the heads up, I just heard from my theater that they're gonna be opening up tickets for sale on Friday. That also likely means that we'll get to find out the official rating of the film and see if it lands as R or gets bumped to PG-13.
If it's PG-13, it's likely the result of some studio fighting to get in easy access for a younger demographic, and probably some battles with the MPAA over exactly what they're allowed to show, and what they can't (since the MPAA's process is notoriously shady as hell).
If it does land the R, then they're likely holding off to the last possible second, so that they have the smallest amount of time with exposure around it being talked about as a dark, violent, R-Rated film and get a bigger press hit for it (hopefully) being well-received and successful that'll help ensure that interested parties will still go see it, like they did with Deadpool and Logan.
Either way, I'd be ready for that news to be ALL. OVER. the Internet on Friday, and given that their Twitter does Eddie's Clubhouse posts every Friday, I'd be really surprised if they don't address it if they go soft on the rating.
Looks like Sony managed to fight for their PG-13 rating. Looks like we'll have ta see if that means that they bullied the MPAA for most of it but cut out a couple little grotesqueries, or if we'll be getting the REAL version unrated on the BluRay release.
Additionally, there's a tie-in comic being released digitally tomorrow, so there's also the possibility that there's SOME degree of them trying to play more nicely with Marvel for maintaining cross-over potential – especially what with Marvel having the Fox stuff back under their roof, Sony are really the only outside players who really want a piece of that.
Insofar as the comic: It looks like it's basically a trailer in comic form. It seems like they've just carved out a few scenes from the film and made them in comic book format, so you're likely to see some stuff here that you haven't in trailers as well. Overall, I'd skip it since anything in there's stuff you'll be seeing in the film. That being said, I really like the tone of things that they put in there. It makes it feel like they have the vision of the film like they would be making a comic, so hopefully that translates well.
Got my tickets and whatnot for it. Hooray for seeing Symbiotes in 3D!
How they're using the Lethal Protector to help establish an origin for Venom sans Spider-Man. Apparently IGN's gonna be releasing these all week. I'll probably just edit them into this poast unless there's something REALLY interesting / deserving of its own update.
For example, Team America: World Police shot a ton of footage they didn't want, just so that when the MPAA told them to cut things, they'd lost things they didn't want anyway. There's a lot of things that films can do if you make the MPAA feel like you're shooting for a harder rating, and you're giving them something to get the rating you actually want. I know I probably say this all the time, but I really can't recommend This Film Is Not Yet Rated hard enough when it comes to getting a sense of how this game gets played.
Tiny spoilers: The director talking about using Lethal Protector as a Spider-Man-less origin story for Venom. While I'm likely in the minority, I still really like this non-Spidey take on him. It'll be really interesting to see how they interpret it specifically, but I've always been on board for the situation the film's in, and owning that version of the character, while still being as true to both Eddie, the Symbiote, and their relationship itself as possible. Given that it'll drop in the UK before the US, I'm also likely gonna be going news dark on the movie after today, so that I can hit the movie without knowing any more.
I think that the kind of things Tom Hardy really enjoys doing as an actor involve a lot of experimenting with the tone and possibility of the character in ways that might not've really been able to fit in narratively, or maybe tonally, but might've still been really enjoyable to do. I think that one of the scenes he mentioned was about puppetry and dark comedy, and even just with those hints, there're a lot of fun things he might've done that might not've made the cut, but absolutely would've been a shitton of fun for him to do as an actor.
I really do hope that they have some of those things kept around as unused footage if they weren't complete enough to do as deleted scenes, since from the interviews and such he's clearly had a damn lot of fun getting into both Eddie Brock and Venom's heads, and playing around in that space. One of the things that I'm really glad about is the fact that he was always first pick for the character, because I think that it let him have a lot of fun since there was a lot designed around the type of actor he is.
The world premiere is happening right now, so I'd expect early thoughts on the film to be happening rather soon across the Internets.