Star Wars: Episode 7, 8... and BEYOND!
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One: because of lack of green screen usage, and two: because of being an era far from the peak of the Jedi, we're back to original-trilogy-like lightsaber combat: http://www.cinemablend.com/new/How-...er-Battles-Different-From-Prequels-96887.html
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Also, QT-KT/R2-KT is gonna make an appearance in the film at some point: http://io9.com/the-heartwarming-story-behind-r2-kt-and-how-she-joined-1744986951
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Lord Noctis
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One: because of lack of green screen usage, and two: because of being an era far from the peak of the Jedi, we're back to original-trilogy-like lightsaber combat: http://www.cinemablend.com/new/How-...er-Battles-Different-From-Prequels-96887.html
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This is good, while I like some of the lightsaber fights in the prequels they could get a bit flashy. Still, the OT duels have some issues too. It is my hope that this trilogy will provide a fighting style thats somewhere between the two styles; having the speed of the prequel fights and the power of the OT fights would be great.
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So like, I managed to host a Star Wars marathon day yesterday and brought a whole lot of friends over, some to revisit the series and some to experience it for the first time!
We managed to get up to Episode V. Didn't see VI, unfortunately, but we got the prequel trilogy down. Watched it from I-VI.
Quick thoughts:
In retrospect for a lot of people, the prequel trilogy isn't all that bad, and even has some great moments that rival that of the original trilogy. It'll never have that sense of wonder and discovery that a genre-setter like Star Wars had in the 80s, but it's an entertaining romp.
The Phantom Menace I especially feel gets a bad rap - not to say that its complaints aren't deserved (some plot elements in the prequel trilogy are lazy and have some gaping holes in them, and there's a bit too much politics) but there's a lot to like.
There's a lot more terrible internet meme-ing for the prequel trilogy than there is for the original trilogy.
I didn't mind Jar Jar all that much, but now I fucking hate Jar Jar, because the films choose the goofiest, stupidest member of the Gungans to represent what is actually a pretty cool race. None of the other Gungans with a speaking role are ever actually terrible, and Boss Nass is fucking awesome as shit.
The Clone Wars is probably the worst out of the entire series, but even that has some great moments. Anakin being whiny is a legitimate complaint, but his journey mirrors Luke's character in a lot of ways, and his performance in the Tatooine segment is actually almost compelling.
The romance writing, as noted in the past so many times, is not one of those great moments.
There was a point in the coliseum scene on Geonosis where Padme jumps onto the big bull-monster's back and gives Anakin a peck on the cheek, and then shortly after Obi-Wan jumped onto its back the same way Padme did. Most everyone sitting and watching got this hilarious mental image of Obi-Wan doing the same thing to Padme because of the way the shot was framed exactly as it was for Padme a few moments beforehand and we all lost our shit at the same time.
So, uh, yeah awks
Revenge of the Sith is fucking radical.
The original trilogy is an incredible series of filmmaking that helped define the genre pf modern sci-fi, so there's not a lot to say. It's not as easy of a sell as I thought it'd be, though. It definitely has a slower pace, though the character banter keeps the interest alive despite the excess of sci-fi gobbledygook that really doesn't mean a whole much besides to make the universe sound real.
tl;dr EPISODE VII
That said, if the series is going to cast sick martial arts badasses into their shows, I'm hoping they'll use them properly
We managed to get up to Episode V. Didn't see VI, unfortunately, but we got the prequel trilogy down. Watched it from I-VI.
Quick thoughts:
In retrospect for a lot of people, the prequel trilogy isn't all that bad, and even has some great moments that rival that of the original trilogy. It'll never have that sense of wonder and discovery that a genre-setter like Star Wars had in the 80s, but it's an entertaining romp.
The Phantom Menace I especially feel gets a bad rap - not to say that its complaints aren't deserved (some plot elements in the prequel trilogy are lazy and have some gaping holes in them, and there's a bit too much politics) but there's a lot to like.
There's a lot more terrible internet meme-ing for the prequel trilogy than there is for the original trilogy.
I didn't mind Jar Jar all that much, but now I fucking hate Jar Jar, because the films choose the goofiest, stupidest member of the Gungans to represent what is actually a pretty cool race. None of the other Gungans with a speaking role are ever actually terrible, and Boss Nass is fucking awesome as shit.
The Clone Wars is probably the worst out of the entire series, but even that has some great moments. Anakin being whiny is a legitimate complaint, but his journey mirrors Luke's character in a lot of ways, and his performance in the Tatooine segment is actually almost compelling.
The romance writing, as noted in the past so many times, is not one of those great moments.
There was a point in the coliseum scene on Geonosis where Padme jumps onto the big bull-monster's back and gives Anakin a peck on the cheek, and then shortly after Obi-Wan jumped onto its back the same way Padme did. Most everyone sitting and watching got this hilarious mental image of Obi-Wan doing the same thing to Padme because of the way the shot was framed exactly as it was for Padme a few moments beforehand and we all lost our shit at the same time.
So, uh, yeah awks
Revenge of the Sith is fucking radical.
The original trilogy is an incredible series of filmmaking that helped define the genre pf modern sci-fi, so there's not a lot to say. It's not as easy of a sell as I thought it'd be, though. It definitely has a slower pace, though the character banter keeps the interest alive despite the excess of sci-fi gobbledygook that really doesn't mean a whole much besides to make the universe sound real.
tl;dr EPISODE VII
One: because of lack of green screen usage, and two: because of being an era far from the peak of the Jedi, we're back to original-trilogy-like lightsaber combat: http://www.cinemablend.com/new/How-J-J-Abrams-Made-Star-Wars-7-Lightsaber-Battles-Different-From-Prequels-96887.html
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This is good, while I like some of the lightsaber fights in the prequels they could get a bit flashy. Still, the OT duels have some issues too. It is my hope that this trilogy will provide a fighting style thats somewhere between the two styles; having the speed of the prequel fights and the power of the OT fights would be great.
That said, if the series is going to cast sick martial arts badasses into their shows, I'm hoping they'll use them properly
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Interestingly enough, I just decided to marathon my way through Machete order again today/yesterday, and by the dark gods it is fucking excellent.
I really just can't get over how the thematic build up of Vader's presence, fall, and redemption, Luke's journey and dangerous foreshadowing, the increased presence and threat of the Emperor, and Leia's secrecy and reveal are just so fantastically well done.
The transition between 5 & 2 is still a bit jarring (especially because Empire is the best and Clones is the worst of those five), but by the time you move from 3 back to 6, that change doesn't hang over still. Also, I think that they managed to make the Ewok shenanigans seem a little less out of place/campy.
This time the link between Padme's medically questionable death and Anakin's survival struck me as being Force-related moreso than I remember it being in the past. It seems more like he manages to survive at her expense, which make what the Emperor tells him a dark truth, rather than a misdirected lie -- which makes more sense honestly.
A few things I noticed more prominently this time:
• It's surprising how little of the Force is laid out in A New Hope. Everything telekinetic only shows up in Empire Strikes Back, and it's really at that point that the real "Star Wars" feeling really sinks in.
• In Episode II, dirty chrome C-3PO's left arm looks reddish underneath -- much like it does in what we've seen of him on The Force Awakens.
• While it's not clear what direction they're going in, the little hints of the prophesy about Anakin seems like the Force has managed to reset by the end (even Yoda's powers are heavily clouded in the prequels). It'll be interesting to see if the Force-based visions still play any role in what's happening.
• It seems like Luke was supposed to learn the truth about Vader's identity in the Darkside Cave on Dagobah, but him bringing his weapons prevented him from getting that truth properly -- which helps with the transition from 5 to 2 quite a bit.
• Lando is a pretty great dude all around.
• All of the space combat and effects REALLY step up from 4 to 5, and then again but especially the volume of fighters from 5 to 6 (watched the original versions). That viewing order really helps those effects limitations from being overly obvious.
• Mos Eisley and Jabba's Palace are still outstanding, and nothing in the prequels really compares to them, but the closest thing is the diversity of creatures in the Jedi assault in Episode II.
• Boba Fett's defeat feels like it's death-ambiguous, since Jango Fett's was so clearly shown. Also, this helps give him a bit of development that works well to make him feel like a badass side character rather than a straight-out bad guy. It is a bit interesting that they never explicitly connect the bit with him being hired by Darth Tyrannus aka Count Dooku - playing both sides against each other with Sidious, but if you pick up on that him attempting to recruit Obi-Wan is especially interesting.
• While C-3PO gets his memory wiped, R2 is left with the memories of having been Anakin/Vader's co-pilot and never says anything to Luke. Also, it's funny that Owen doesn't remember anything about C-3PO working on the moisture farm, and even talks about not needing a protocol droid when talking to the Jawas.
• I'd forgotten about Obi-Wan's line in Episode II, "Attack those Federation starships! Quickly!" that totally isn't a Star Trek reference, but also completely seems like there's no way it isn't one.
But yeah. It's just a damn good time.
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I really just can't get over how the thematic build up of Vader's presence, fall, and redemption, Luke's journey and dangerous foreshadowing, the increased presence and threat of the Emperor, and Leia's secrecy and reveal are just so fantastically well done.
The transition between 5 & 2 is still a bit jarring (especially because Empire is the best and Clones is the worst of those five), but by the time you move from 3 back to 6, that change doesn't hang over still. Also, I think that they managed to make the Ewok shenanigans seem a little less out of place/campy.
This time the link between Padme's medically questionable death and Anakin's survival struck me as being Force-related moreso than I remember it being in the past. It seems more like he manages to survive at her expense, which make what the Emperor tells him a dark truth, rather than a misdirected lie -- which makes more sense honestly.
A few things I noticed more prominently this time:
• It's surprising how little of the Force is laid out in A New Hope. Everything telekinetic only shows up in Empire Strikes Back, and it's really at that point that the real "Star Wars" feeling really sinks in.
• In Episode II, dirty chrome C-3PO's left arm looks reddish underneath -- much like it does in what we've seen of him on The Force Awakens.
• While it's not clear what direction they're going in, the little hints of the prophesy about Anakin seems like the Force has managed to reset by the end (even Yoda's powers are heavily clouded in the prequels). It'll be interesting to see if the Force-based visions still play any role in what's happening.
• It seems like Luke was supposed to learn the truth about Vader's identity in the Darkside Cave on Dagobah, but him bringing his weapons prevented him from getting that truth properly -- which helps with the transition from 5 to 2 quite a bit.
• Lando is a pretty great dude all around.
• All of the space combat and effects REALLY step up from 4 to 5, and then again but especially the volume of fighters from 5 to 6 (watched the original versions). That viewing order really helps those effects limitations from being overly obvious.
• Mos Eisley and Jabba's Palace are still outstanding, and nothing in the prequels really compares to them, but the closest thing is the diversity of creatures in the Jedi assault in Episode II.
• Boba Fett's defeat feels like it's death-ambiguous, since Jango Fett's was so clearly shown. Also, this helps give him a bit of development that works well to make him feel like a badass side character rather than a straight-out bad guy. It is a bit interesting that they never explicitly connect the bit with him being hired by Darth Tyrannus aka Count Dooku - playing both sides against each other with Sidious, but if you pick up on that him attempting to recruit Obi-Wan is especially interesting.
• While C-3PO gets his memory wiped, R2 is left with the memories of having been Anakin/Vader's co-pilot and never says anything to Luke. Also, it's funny that Owen doesn't remember anything about C-3PO working on the moisture farm, and even talks about not needing a protocol droid when talking to the Jawas.
• I'd forgotten about Obi-Wan's line in Episode II, "Attack those Federation starships! Quickly!" that totally isn't a Star Trek reference, but also completely seems like there's no way it isn't one.
But yeah. It's just a damn good time.
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Channy
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I think I'm missing someone..... nothing happens except articles telling you to google it.
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I actually like Attack of the Clones more than The Phantom Menace, though I suppose it's partly because I always skip the cheesy Anakin/Padme romance scenes whenever I watch Episode II, but also because AotC holds my attention better by having more action scenes whereas in Episode I Tatooine feels like it drags on too long and Coruscant is just a bunch of politics that leave me impatient for the party to return to Naboo already, and the only really interesting scenes during these otherwise dull sections are the Podrace, the escape/1st Darth Maul battle, and the Jedi Council scene. Don't get me wrong, I still like TPM, I just prefer Attack of the Clones.
Hisako
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- Satsu, BRIAN BLESSED, MIGHTY AND WISE Junpei Iori: Ace Detective, Maccaffrickstonson von Lichtenstafford Frabenschnaben, Polite Krogan, Robert Baratheon
I also never noticed that in the original trilogy, 3PO's right (I think?) leg is silver rather than gold from the knee down, but that is apparently old, old news.
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Harbinger O Great Justice
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Any luck using this link: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=a+long+time+ago+in+a+galaxy+far+far+away
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Lord Noctis
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Me either. Its just showing pages saying that I should google it.
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Some big news: It looks like we know what The First Order's big weapon on Starkiller Base does. Spoilers ahoy: http://www.polygon.com/2015/12/2/98...apon-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens-gets-name
Also, a big ass article with a new Kylo Ren image (that feels oh-so-meme-able): http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/...nes-of-the-biggest-movie-of-the-year-20151202
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Also, a big ass article with a new Kylo Ren image (that feels oh-so-meme-able): http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/...nes-of-the-biggest-movie-of-the-year-20151202
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wayfarer
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In a little over a week, this thread is going to be my home.
I am beyond excited for this movie. I have been actively playing catch-up with the Star Wars canon--just about everything except for the novels they've been putting out. Avoiding spoilers, TV spots--I haven't seen any footage that's been released post-ESPN trailer. I love Star Wars.
I am beyond excited for this movie. I have been actively playing catch-up with the Star Wars canon--just about everything except for the novels they've been putting out. Avoiding spoilers, TV spots--I haven't seen any footage that's been released post-ESPN trailer. I love Star Wars.
Lord Noctis
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Chinese trailer has a bunch of new footage. I don't think anythings really spoilery in it, mostly just action shots.
Edit: Actually, there is one minor spoiler in the trailer.
Edit: Actually, there is one minor spoiler in the trailer.
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Still avoiding watching the Luhan trailer or anything else from now until it comes out, but if any of you are lucky enough to live near a REAL IMAX theater where you get to see this, here's your list.
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C&P'd from said link said:
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wayfarer
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I've actually consistently had bad experiences watching feature films on my local IMAX screen. The screen's like four stories high. It's very cool. I've seen a lot of really immersive documentaries there, but when I saw Star Trek and The Hobbit they just didn't look right. Maybe it's because both of those movies are like crazy and frenetic and full of CG environments, but those were both very unenjoyable experiences for me. Everything was blurry and difficult to track. I like the IMAX format very much--maybe it's just that the upkeep of the theatre hasn't been too good?? I'll probably end up seeing it in IMAX eventually anyway. I mean the trailers have all these crazy beautiful vistas and slow tracking shots, I'm sure it'll look excellent.