Star Wars: Episode 7, 8... and BEYOND!

The Twilight Mexican

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Also, it is simply impossible to reconcile Martin's description of The Force with what we know of the Prime Jedi, to whom the above chant belonged. Long before the Jedi Order of the Republic era became oblivious to their deterioration into the hamstrung pawns and political puppets of corrupt bureaucrats and other officials -- and even before a rogue Sith faction split from the original order to have borne the Jedi name -- the Prime Jedi were equivalent to what fandom hypothetically refers to as "Grey Jedi." Per pg. 246 in the New Edition of "Ultimate Star Wars," "the Prime (first) Jedi [were] at balance with the Force—in peaceful coexistence with both light amd dark":

I just came across a lovely addendum to this from the "Secrets of the Jedi" book, compiled by Luke himself (from an in-universe perspective anyway):

"Using the Force properly is all about finding balance. And some Force users, particularly Force-sensitive children — known by the Jedi as Younglings — are able to tap into its energy without an obvious alignment to either side. The Force simply flows through them in its purest form. Based on the constant struggles I've witnessed between the light and dark sides of the Force, perhaps their innate neutrality can teach us all a valuable lesson."
 

Odysseus

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I wouldn't mind totally disregarding the sequel trilogy, the whole thing was a half-baked mess of wasted potential, but that's also a really bad look for Disney. Would they really want to throw their hands up and say "haha just kidding that didn't count!" You can never do "Episode VII" again now, not without coming off as a bunch of hacks anyway. They're also never going to be able to get the original trio of Mark Hamill, Kerry Fisher, and Harrison Ford together again, so throwing out the last Star Wars media featuring them together would be sad.
 

Lulcielid

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Isn't Star Wars land also mostly based on the ST? Like with first order parades and stuff? They'd have to really rework that too. They'd be better off just moving on without straight decanonising those movies.
 

Strangelove

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wait do people now say the prequel trilogy was well received on release to rag on the sequels

because i was alive back then and watched them in real time and no they were not lol

at least the fans kept up the fine star wars tradition of “harassment of actors because you didn’t like a movie they were in” but thankfully (?) there were no kids getting harassed this time

unless people have attacked broom boy actor and i don’t know about it
 

Tetsujin

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Not really the question. :wacky:

The rumors have been running for a couple of weeks through various outlets, from at least a couple of sources.
Reliable sources though?



I feel like I have heard variations of this for years now. People have a hate-boner for Kathleen Kennedy. Usually the alt-right or incel types. I wouldn't put any stock in it :monster:
 

The Twilight Mexican

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Oh, we certainly hear this sort of thing every few weeks from the YouTube SWJWs ("Star Wars" Justice Warriors) as I call them -- but this at least has Grace Randolph saying it's true as well.

Now, depending on who you ask, she's either a toxic conservative or a flaming SJW. But that's also true of me. :monster: So I like her, trust her, and tend to appreciate her input even when I disagree.
 

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Doomcock on YouTube has claimed that a Star Wars "civil war" is taking place within Lucasfilm between Kathleen Kennedy and those loyal to George Lucas...

...Doomcock previously said the new head of Lucasfilm could be Jon Favreau, or Doomcock said the new head of Lucasfilm could be a neutral third party so as to calm the dissension among the factions that support Kennedy and those loyal to Lucas within Lucasfilm.
The idea that there are these sort of factions internally at Lucasfilm seems pretty laughable when you look at Kathleen Kennedy's history working with George Lucas, as well as the fact that she's still actively involved in projects like The Mandalorian just as much as she was with the Sequel Trilogy, and how all of those people interact whenever we've seen them in things like the BTS for The Mandalorian.

I just think that most of the reeee-ing masses don't understand that what George Lucas did, what Kathleen Kennedy does, what Dave Filoni does, and what Jon Favreau does aren't all the same thing. Like putting Favreau or Filoni into Kathleen Kennedy's role is pulling them away from the things that you like them for, and giving them less ability to make the things that you like, not more.

Also if she just wraps up her contract normally or whatever it is for how things are set up for her, those people feel like they'll be getting a victory out of what is quite literally non-news. Lots of people who step in to leadership roles during transitional periods like this only stay there for a certain period of time before moving on. If all she wanted to do was make sure that things with Disney got into place and grew to a point where she felt that things were in good hands when she left – then that's pretty much exactly what we're seeing.

I just always keep in mind that these are the same people who would loathe George Lucas' sequels of the journey into the microverse even more than what we got with the Sequel Trilogy, but they'd never admit it. :mon:




My 2 cents is that with TFA & TLJ being literally back-to-back, what IX really needed was a bigger time gap to let Kylo Ren really be the Supreme Leader, and see what it was like to have a Skywalker ruling over the galaxy, before bringing it back to Anakin's legacy of being an enslaved kid outside the reach of the Republic. I feel like the space between VIII & IX should have been a whole region to explore and tell stories the way that we got with Clone Wars, and it's pretty clear that Star Wars Resistance was originally going to be an early version of that. However, everything with the development on IX, Carrie's passing, and all of that momentum & stability fell to bits. They they just soldiered ahead with IX anyway, and we got what we got from that, so that they just made the smart move and decided it was best just to leave it be & let it alone for a while.

That's why I think that the grain of truth attached to all of this is that they're not pushing on expanding content around the time period of the sequel trilogy – but that much was pretty obvious with the focus on the High Republic that was announced months ago. Everyone knows that Episode IX wasn't a solid landing to grow from for telling new stories, and that they'd focused storytelling efforts elsewhere.

I think that if they are introducing a "Veil of the Force" thing, that it'll be a label for telling "What If?" type stories like what if Maul & Ahsoka DID team up together to go stop Anakin, and other things like that that are clearly interesting to audiences. It would let them explore a lot of things like "Infinities" used to, and eventually give them a way to feel out what to do with the era around the Sequel trilogy. It would also let them tell stories that ignored the sequel trilogy, so I feel like some small piece of truth to that + Kathleen Kennedy potentially passing the torch in an entirely normal and uneventful way got spun up into the crazy rumor mill & that's how we got fed the information.




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Strangelove

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Doomcock on YouTube
i'm sorry what



has this guy with the name and costume of a porno parody character got an established track record breaking news, or it is just like all those youtube videos saying "guys captain marvel is going to bomb hard and disney are trying to hide it, oh it made over $1 billion at the box office also all the cast actually hate brie larson"

is this just some guy on youtube saying stuff
 

X-SOLDIER

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In the SDCC @Home, Trevorrow talked about Episode IX a bit, and showed off the unused TIE Marauder, which looks like a TIE Fighter hybridized with a B-Wing. I really love it, so I time-stamped that part of his conversation & showing the model in the video:

Another quote from him on Episode IX in this panel is:

"That was just an experience that obviously you can imagine, it can get to the point of being traumatic when there's something that you care about that much, and you've invested that much in it, but that's one of the things that you accept when you take on any role in film, especially when you become a storyteller, that there are gonna be heartbreaks. There's gonna be crushing disappointments, and then there's gonna be victories, and hopefully, they'll balance out in the end."

There're some more quotes of those bits here if you don't want to watch through the whole panel (I would HIGHLY recommend it, as there's still a ton more than they mention in the article).
https://www.looper.com/230264/colin-trevorrow-gets-real-about-his-traumatic-star-wars-9-exit/




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