The Final Fantasy VII LTD Thread (Round 4)

[Alessa Gillespie]

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Tell me you're joking and people didn't argue on COLOURS. PLEASE. I mean, I don't even.

http://killthemongoose.com/tnc/index.php?topic=574.0 You wish.

 

[Dashell]

bah another topic that cut off early
Stupid program I used to extract posts because I was too lazy and cheap to do it the right way.

EDIT:
okay enjoy, restored it...
love the "The ribbon is CLEARLY different" when Square themselves said it was the same.

 

[Ryushikaze]

He said nothing so far, I was too busy yelling at Cali:
http://z8.invisionfree.com/Cloud_x_Aerith/index.php?showtopic=10135&st=60#entry12471029

That's probably going to get me a warning

EDIT:
okay he said that Tifa is a downer and so is Cloud so they can only drag each other down or something. Not sure what that has to do with the double standard but....

Everything. Because he's STILL MAKING SHIT UP and Aerith is still his speshul snoeflaek who can do no wrong.
A tip on Alex. He wants Aerith. BADLY. He thinks every other male in the argument is all 'sexsexsexsex' and wants Tifa to be with Cloud so they can be by association. This is all Massive projection.

Yep, that guy is a LTD hall of famer. He makes threads instant classics. I actually kinda miss the guy.

Crazy and hilarious man is both crazy and hilarious.

I do believe he gets mad when addressed as Angela.

He gets pissed the hell off. Despite no spacing, his typically pink and girly fonts, etc. etc. etc.

So on this non optional Cloud/Tifa stuff, how about Cloud wanting to get back to the bar really badly after he met Aerith?

How about the entire compilation.

Well the people at CxA were doing it for Cloud and Aerith and I thought it might be fun to do it for Cloud and Tifa.

uhm...

also cocks?

Do the 'non optional' incidents include apologizing for the flowers? Because they used to.

I am reminded of that old geoshities site that had all the dialogue in the game categorized by who it favored. Color coated and point totals added.

While it may be a fun exercise on our part, it smacks of playing the pinkers game. Next thing we will be comparing soda cans again or the like.

Of course the funny part is that they can normally be beat at their own game anyways.

They even had to cheat at their own rules. Shit that should have been counted wasn't, shit that made no sense, like 'sorry about the flowers' was.

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okay which is truthfully the reason I want to do it XD
I want to see if we can come up with more... but I'll shut up now

Quex, you're trying to win at their game with our rules. This is the wrong way to play the game.
You play dirty pool, you play it dirty.

Is "there's never ending problems between Cloud and Tifa and they may not solve them" supposed to be from that Nojima OTWTAS interview? cba to reading it all.

Though I did see 'I don't want to be dragged into an LT debate like Nomura' as an explanation for the 'my views on love and marriage' thing. If you didn't want to be dragged into it, maybe you shouldn't be writing all these things in the first place


I don't know, I think you need a good, impartial jury to decide what's classic.

I propose a classroom full of kids.

Oh you.

Actually, I'd have to say Squall's exit is completely a reference to Rinoa on every level -- from the feather to the flower field. Of course, Squall is the only character whose sole motivation for, well, everything, is another person.

Well, his feather represents Rinoa, definitely, but the field is just 'The world' though it might be the field he's found in at the end of FFVIII. There actually is an odd thought I have that Dissidia takes place in between the final battles and ending of the original games- such that when Tidus wakes up in the sea at the end of 10/10-2, he's just left his buddies in the field.

Don't forget the detail that the point values were arbitrarily chosen and "Well, wouldya look at that?" came out with a higher total for Aerith.

'Where's Aerith' +10 Aerith
'Tifa, Nothing's changed' +.05

Good times! No one will ever forget that the 'koi' fish = Aerith. Though I have to say that my favorite argument from the present time (well, 2009 it was) is that Aerith changed her ribbon at the end of Crisis Core. That gets me every time.... gets me into a fit of laughter, that is.

THE ENDS ARE DIFFERENT! THE COLOR IS DIFFERENT! I DON'T CARE THAT IT DOES THE EXACT SAME THING IN FF7 OR THAT IT'S NARRATIVELY INDICATED TO BE THE SAME. IT MUST BE DIFFERENT! ZACK MEANSES NOTHING!

Though, the wars about the fucking colors were quite hilarious too. Aerith wearing red means it's pink, because in Japan Red = Pink. But when Vincent wears red it's a separate color. And Tifa wears MAHOGONY, not red. This shit is important!

Or was it, Aerith wearing pink means it's red? THE COLORS DUKE, THE COLORS

Pink is red, and red means love, but not when it's Vincent, Tifa, Meteor, RED XIII, etc.etc.

I don't remember any arguments about Clerith being present during the Highwind scene, besides that Cloud would be too torn up about her death to do anything with Tifa. xD

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Tell me you're joking and people didn't argue on COLOURS. PLEASE. I mean, I don't even

They did.

Also, Que, you got that quote wrong, Nojima said that even with Aerith, things probably wouldn't have gone smoothly either since Aerith has a big burden herself. Or something like that. He outright denied that Cloud and Aerith would be in a happy lovey mode IF they were together.

But if you remove the 'he outright denied' part, then he TTLY said Cloud and Aerith are perfect for each other?

 

[Dashell]

THE ENDS ARE DIFFERENT! THE COLOR IS DIFFERENT! I DON'T CARE THAT IT DOES THE EXACT SAME THING IN FF7 OR THAT IT'S NARRATIVELY INDICATED TO BE THE SAME. IT MUST BE DIFFERENT! ZACK MEANSES NOTHING!

You forgot "OH SHIT IT IS THE SAME RIBBON? WELL IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT IS STILL TIED TO CLOUD CAUSE... WELL JUST CAUSE!"

But if you remove the 'he outright denied' part, then he TTLY said Cloud and Aerith are perfect for each other?

No dude read my signature. THAT'S what he said

 

[Ryushikaze]

What he fails to say is that Aerith would be better as a house slave, since Cloud and Tifa's unending problems are severe uncurable nymphomania.
But with the kid's help of dicking off elsewhere, they can work through that problem.
Several times a day.
With Yuffie.

 

[Splintered]

http://killthemongoose.com/tnc/index.php?topic=574.0 You wish.

 

[Dashell]

Good times, good times. I love the symbolism argument. "Cloud and Aerith are the official couple because of her ribbon and some fish." but "Cloud and Tifa realize their feelings of want for each other" means nothing.

What he fails to say is that Aerith would be better as a house slave, since Cloud and Tifa's unending problems are severe uncurable nymphomania.
But with the kid's help of dicking off elsewhere, they can work through that problem.
Several times a day.
With Yuffie.

WTF is wrong with you O_o

 

[Ryushikaze]

Good times, good times. I love the symbolism argument. "Cloud and Aerith are the official couple because of her ribbon and some fish." but "Cloud and Tifa realize their feelings of want for each other" means nothing.


WTF is wrong with you O_o

Severe, Uncurable, Nymphomania.

:Ba dum tish:

 

[Dashell]

... yeah... I walked into that

 

[Strangelove]

So, how would you translate it into English if you were doing it now? "Cloud began to fall in love with Tifa"?

Given the context of the whole thing, I still think "secretly" is probably best overall, but I'm interested in what you'd go with.

I think the 'beginning to fall in love' is, like 'secretly', is another thing that's more implied by the phrase from how it's used than an inherent meaning to it.

I'm not sure at this very moment how I might phrase it. Maybe '...for whom he felt some feelings of attraction for' or something, I don't know.

 

[Dashell]

how about "for whom he had slight feelings for"?

 

[looneymoon]

"For whom he had a budding affection for"?

Also, quote doesn't really matter considering canon already states that they were strong enough for him to join SOLDIER over.

 

[Dashell]

It also says Cloud had slight feelings for Tifa which is more than they've ever said about how he feels about Aerith

 

[Eerie]

My brain was wounded deeply while reading that link. Fear not though, my faith in humanity hasn't shrunk! It was that small to begin with Are you sure it wasn't just Cali trolling though?

On a more related (?) topic, if you make the pro list, then be sure to also add the con, 'cause we need moar lulz. ANd oh yeah, use the whole compilation. XD

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

My brain was wounded deeply while reading that link. Fear not though, my faith in humanity hasn't shrunk! It was that small to begin with Are you sure it wasn't just Cali trolling though?

I sincerely hope she wasn't, but considering she made a srs topic about how people cannot like Tserith for blah blah reason that essentially had the same wording as a Clerith statement and argued this seriously... plus her endless sockpuppeting and serious conversations with said sockpuppets does not make anything she says particularly credible to her sanity.

 

[Shadowfox]

It also says Cloud had slight feelings for Tifa which is more than they've ever said about how he feels about Aerith

Cloud had undying feelings for Aerith. They don't say what feelings exactly, but it's definitely love. What else could it be? And since it's undying, that proves Cloud loves Aerith for all of time.

Whereas Cloud only had slight feelings for Tifa. The fact that SE never said exactly what feelings they are means that it not likely to be love. Plus, they're only slight feelings. Cloud's long outgrown whatever it was he had felt for Tifa.

 

[Celes Chere]

considering she made a srs topic about how people cannot like Tserith for blah blah reason that essentially had the same wording as a Clerith statement and argued this seriously

Lol I believe that was... Aerith is special to Cloud. And then someone had shown the quote about Tseng being special to Aerith. And then the counter argument is that Tseng was too old. xD "Like a grandfather" XD Rofl.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Lol I believe that was... Aerith is special to Cloud. And then someone had shown the quote about Tseng being special to Aerith. And then the counter argument is that Tseng was too old. xD "Like a grandfather" XD Rofl.

Tseng's like 23-24. Cali, you never cease to amaze.

Also, Shadowfox, naughty naughty, combining equivocation and quote mining. Both Cloud's 'undying feelings' and his feelings for Tifa have been expounded elsewhere. For Aerith, they HAMMER Guilt. For Tifa, the point out the Cloud and Tifa confirming them, the feelings matching, and list the scene where this happens as among the instance of people expressing romantic love towards someone else.

 

[null]

I thought he was an adult (or at least a teenager) when he first met Aerith as a young girl? Did that change with Crisis Core?

 

[Dashell]

This just in, Cloud's mother is a figment of his imagination.

Also gotta love how they're (as in mostly cali's dupes) trying SO HARD to shoot down every significant CxT moment in the thread where they're looking for romantic CxT moments. "No, that one doesn't show CLOUD'S feelings, we're looking for just evidence of Cloud's feelings. But let's add Cait Sith's prediction and Cloud's mother telling him to date an older girl to the Clerith side of the list. Even though Cloud says not interested to his mother (who is a figment of his imagination BTW) this is her endorsing Aerith as a choice for Cloud, so it counts."

lol what?

 

[Eerie]

LOLOLOL XD

Cloud's not interested because he's already having it bad for the girl dressed as a cow girl he just saw again. Obvious reply is obvious. Cloud is not interested 'cause there's already someone. Why do you think it cut just there? XD

 

[Dashell]

Well... honestly it could be he just doesn't want to get his mom involved in his love life as well That's more how I saw it anyway. But even if Cloud said "good idea" I fail to see how it's Clerith since he didn't even know Aerith at the time.

 

[Vendel]

Well... honestly it could be he just doesn't want to get his mom involved in his love life as well That's more how I saw it anyway.

Cloud has it bad for Tifa at this point Q. That is why he is "not interested" in an older girl. Mom did get something right though. He does need a girl to take care of him. It just so happens that is Tifa.

Just a couple things one should pick up on the second time around.

 

[Dashell]

I see that's a good point. I think I'm getting the game order screwed up in my head... strange how the scene is seen as Clerith

Hi Aurenare post something.

 

[Vendel]

BTW saying Cloud feel "dimly" or "vaguely" (or whatever) fell in love with Tifa sounds like engrish to me.