The Final Fantasy VII LTD Thread (Round 4)

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Dashell

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Mother fucker... Why do I always run into the idiots who say the Ultimanias aren't canon?

BTW
what page is this on in the reunion files?
"Inside, I felt one thing was for sure: Cloud and Tifa would be together"

I can't seem to find it.
 
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Ryushikaze

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Mother fucker... Why do I always run into the idiots who say the Ultimanias aren't canon?

BTW
what page is this on in the reunion files?
"Inside, I felt one thing was for sure: Cloud and Tifa would be together"

I can't seem to find it.

Nearer the back. It's next to a sketch picture of IIRC the church and the Northern Crater.
P80 I want to say.
 

Dashell

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And not to take anything away from Nojima, but he's was 1 of 4 writers in FF7. So maybe thats why he had a hard time passing through all that Tifa/Cloud love **** into the actual script of the game, the other writers wanted something more open. So he goes and helps write little books after FF7 for all the fans that want to pretend there was something more with Cloud and Tifa.

"It doesn't count because only one of the writers wrote it." Jesus fucking christ >_<

and you were close, page 70, thanks :monster:
Great is there more LTD stuff on these pages? I kinda ignored them but if I have to go through them to collect more I guess I will...
 
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Tifabelle

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So maybe thats why he had a hard time passing through all that Tifa/Cloud love **** into the actual script of the game

Well mostly it's because the game has nothing to do with romance.

Also, lol. That Nojima is a sneaky bastard.
 

Dashell

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But that has to be a new one. "This doesn't count because only ONE of the writers wrote it."? Really?

I've honestly never seen such denial. Well... okay I have but... just really unbelievable..
 

Tifabelle

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I don't know if it's denial. I doubt this person (and people like him) really believe the stuff they say. Likely not.
 

Dashell

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This person just told me the Lifestream Sequence means nothing.

lI mean anything. There's nothing in AC that makes them out to be lovers, at all. In fact one would think that Cloud is into Aeris more since he goes into a couple flashbacks/daydreams? with her.
So a couple daydreams = love but having your entire life and childhood revolve around one person and one person only, and later on living with that person after sharing your feelings of wanting each other and then raising a family means nothing.

Aanndd I'll stop because probably no one gives a shit :monster:
 
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Tifabelle

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It just deserves an eyeroll. Like I said, I personally don't believe that someone could possibly be serious when they say things like that.
 

Celes Chere

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So a couple daydreams = love but having your entire life and childhood revolve around one person and one person only, and later on living with that person after sharing your feelings of wanting each other and then raising a family means nothing.

Yes, some people have this idea in their head that Cloud was bullied by Tifa during his childhood, that they barely knew each other, and that a child hood crush is just what it is - a crush and nothing more. So they take the idea that Tifa was mean to Cloud and they didn't know each other, and say that after that (during the events of FFVII) they didn't grow any stronger as a couple.
 

Dashell

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Yes, some people have this idea in their head that Cloud was bullied by Tifa during his childhood, that they barely knew each other, and that a child hood crush is just what it is - a crush and nothing more. So they take the idea that Tifa was mean to Cloud and they didn't know each other, and say that after that (during the events of FFVII) they didn't grow any stronger as a couple.

I haven't seen the bully argument come up, thankfully. And if they didn't grow stronger, living together is just nuts :monster:

I wanna say this person is just ignorant. I mean telling me the Ultimanis aren't canon, saying OtWtaS is nothing because just one person wrote it... they obviously don't know what's all out there and how important it is. I just hate this "When are they shown as a couple?"

Raising two children together... hi?
 

Tifabelle

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When are Aerith & Cloud shown to be a couple? Let's just set some standards as to what makes a couple. If Cloud & Tifa don't fit into it, then Aerith & Cloud certainly wouldn't.
 

Masamune

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When are Aerith & Cloud shown to be a couple? Let's just set some standards as to what makes a couple. If Cloud & Tifa don't fit into it, then Aerith & Cloud certainly wouldn't.

I think Cleriths believe discrediting Cloti makes them win by default.
 

OneWingedDemon

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and that a child hood crush is just what it is - a crush and nothing more
And the promise he was forced into is probably etched forever in his mind cause it was such a traumatic event for him. Tifa is the true cause of his PTSD
 

Max Caulfield

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And the promise he was forced into is probably etched forever in his mind cause it was such a traumatic event for him. Tifa is the true cause of his PTSD

I bet she even orchestrated Sephiroth going crazy just so Cloud would come and rescue her.
 

Ryushikaze

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random crazy said:
And not to take anything away from Nojima, but he's was 1 of 4 writers in FF7. So maybe thats why he had a hard time passing through all that Tifa/Cloud love **** into the actual script of the game, the other writers wanted something more open. So he goes and helps write little books after FF7 for all the fans that want to pretend there was something more with Cloud and Tifa.

But... He's the head writer. He's the guy who actually WROTE Final Fantasy 7. Nomura and Kitase get writing credits, but their contributions are detailed already. Nojima wrote the rest of the plot, the movie, and all the OtWtaS novellas. Even if he's but one author, he's certainly the most influential towards the plot.

But that has to be a new one. "This doesn't count because only ONE of the writers wrote it."? Really?

Of course, if ONE of the writers wrote anything remotely pink and the others disavowed it openly, I doubt they'd be so quick to dismiss it.

I've honestly never seen such denial. Well... okay I have but... just really unbelievable..

No it isn't. Trust me, look into the SW v ST debate. Look into Darkstar. Realize that there are levels of crazy yet to be sunk to.

This person just told me the Lifestream Sequence means nothing.


So a couple daydreams = love but having your entire life and childhood revolve around one person and one person only, and later on living with that person after sharing your feelings of wanting each other and then raising a family means nothing.

Yep. And that's why Clack is canon.
Invite them here, Quex. Always ready for fresh blood.

New Blood, rather. Yes. Definitely new, not fresh...

Yes, some people have this idea in their head that Cloud was bullied by Tifa during his childhood, that they barely knew each other, and that a child hood crush is just what it is - a crush and nothing more. So they take the idea that Tifa was mean to Cloud and they didn't know each other, and say that after that (during the events of FFVII) they didn't grow any stronger as a couple.

You got to love assumptions and ideas that spring from nothing at all and get treated as more factual than facts.

I haven't seen the bully argument come up, thankfully. And if they didn't grow stronger, living together is just nuts :monster:

There's a point to be made that the more your pet theory causes blatant or accidental character assassination in order to come about, the less likely it is.

I wanna say this person is just ignorant. I mean telling me the Ultimanis aren't canon, saying OtWtaS is nothing because just one person wrote it... they obviously don't know what's all out there and how important it is. I just hate this "When are they shown as a couple?"

They sound willfully ignorant, Quex.

Raising two children together... hi?

I'm fond of their CCU keyword in that regard. They get one keyword. It's about the two of them as a unit.

When are Aerith & Cloud shown to be a couple? Let's just set some standards as to what makes a couple. If Cloud & Tifa don't fit into it, then Aerith & Cloud certainly wouldn't.

I have said time and again that 'if one sets any consistent and even standard for what does and does not count as being in a relationship, if it will include Cloud and Aerith, it must by necessity include Cloud and Tifa' as well.

I think Cleriths believe discrediting Cloti makes them win by default.

Some do, but not all, and this is an all too common mindset in adversarial discussions, anyways. Knocking the opposition down a peg does not score points for your team.

I bet she even orchestrated Sephiroth going crazy just so Cloud would come and rescue her.

She brought Jenova to their planet. She is truly an evil and unstoppable mastermind. We should be glad all she wants is some blond nookie.
 

Dashell

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Ryu, why don't you go there?

NM

I'm tired of dealing with him.

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see Ryu? You didn't come quick enough and I went off on him again.
 
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Zee

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Que your obsession for arguing this bullshit one three different forums is scary

and also you kinda come off like a dick
 

Makoeyes987

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Que your obsession for arguing this bullshit one three different forums is scary

and also you kinda come off like a dick

Let's be nice.

Some people like to discuss whether or not Han shot first. Others, argue whether or not Sephiroth was really trying. And some people debate whether Picard or Kirk were the better topics.

Let fandom discuss what it wants.
 

Zee

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Didn't say it to just be mean for the sake of mean, actually. It's kinda like when you see someone you know about to walk outside with their shirt inside out -- to avoid them looking ridiculous when they are in the company of others, you say "Hey man, fix your fuckin' shirt."

Similar situation with the interbutts. Que actually made the topic over there, but I don't exactly get how she's encouraging any sort of debate of discussion when she basically posted, "Hey let's share our thoughts/evidence/etc on the LTD BUT BEFORE YOU EVEN START FUCK YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE WRONG, WRONG, WRONG Even some of the posters over there seem pretty floored by how rude she's coming off.
 

Tennyo

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Well if that's the case then shouldn't the people on the other forum worry about the contents of the thread on their own forum? :/

Leave what happens on other forums on other forums.
 
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