The Final Fantasy VII LTD Thread (Round 4)

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Max Caulfield

shaka brah
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Chi, Trollzaya, Dean Winchester, Black Widow
Poor Zack. He dies trying to get to her... and she won't even sleep with him. :/
 

Vendel

Banned
I was bored at work and I was trying to understand Pinker logic. Then I realized it was making my brain hurt and stopped. But my question is this.

How does one explain that if Cloud thinks Denzel is his special link to Aerith. The child Aertith brought to him. Heck C/A look like his parents. And Cloud even placates Tifa with fake smiles about the subject. Then why in the hell does he abandon that child to go "be closer" to the person who supposedly set all that up? Wouldn't he take "their child" with him?
 

Max Caulfield

shaka brah
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Chi, Trollzaya, Dean Winchester, Black Widow
Maybe he realized that Denzel would do better at Seventh Heaven instead of at a dilapidated old church.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
Because a Kid would just cramp his style while he tried to get his undead mack on.
 

Dashell

SMILE!
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Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
I was bored at work and I was trying to understand Pinker logic. Then I realized it was making my brain hurt and stopped. But my question is this.
I actually imagined you going "Hmm... OW OW!"

I think it has something to do with the fact that Tifa ruined the whole thing by inserting herself into Cloud's belief... so Tifa ruined Denzel I guess :monster:... but that's just my guess, I think I asked this once before but I don't remember the answer.
 

Vendel

Banned
I actually imagined you going "Hmm... OW OW!

More like...
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I think it has something to do with the fact that Tifa ruined the whole thing by inserting herself into Cloud's belief... so Tifa ruined Denzel I guess :monster:... but that's just my guess, I think I asked this once before but I don't remember the answer.

And you probably wouldn't get an answer unless you pressed them. Because when you have two conflicting (il)logic circles colliding like that, it takes Olympian level bullshit gymnastics to get out of it.
 
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Shadowfox

You look like you need a monkey
How does one explain that if Cloud thinks Denzel is his special link to Aerith. The child Aertith brought to him. Heck C/A look like his parents. And Cloud even placates Tifa with fake smiles about the subject. Then why in the hell does he abandon that child to go "be closer" to the person who supposedly set all that up? Wouldn't he take "their child" with him?

I suspect that Denzel's only importance to the Cleriths who use him as proofz is that he somehow proves Cloud and Aerith share an unbreakable romantic bond of true love. They don't need to concern themselves about the boy any more beyond that.
 

Ⓐaron

Factiō Rēpūblicāna dēlenda est.
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The Man, V
I suspect they haven't thought about him that much. Logic has never been their forte.
 
I suspect that Denzel's only importance to the Cleriths who use him as proofz is that he somehow proves Cloud and Aerith share an unbreakable romantic bond of true love. They don't need to concern themselves about the boy any more beyond that.
Plus Tifa tainted him or something by giving him love.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
The ancillary consequences of an argument are unimportant to that sort of person- not just the Cleriths, I encounter this A LOT- it simply does not occur to them to consider what other effects their argument might have, even on themselves.

I suppose one of the best examples is the 'Prime mover' argument which states 'all things must have a cause' without realizing that if all things require cause, then so does the 'mover.'

The SW v ST argument sees these sorts of arguments a lot, too.
And ones that entirely miss the point (Even IF ST could explode suns at will, which they can't, they are STILL hampered by their inability to get around the Galaxy in any reasonable time frame, much less planetary scale sheilds, patrol ships, etc.)
 

OneWingedDemon

NOT AMUSED
I think it has something to do with the fact that Tifa ruined the whole thing by inserting herself into Cloud's belief... so Tifa ruined Denzel I guess :monster:... but that's just my guess, I think I asked this once before but I don't remember the answer.
I thought I was gonna have to suck it up and bear it for this child's sake cause Aeris sent it to me. Thank god you cleared things up for me, Tifa. Now that I know it's yours I can go ahead and abandon it :monster:
 

The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
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TresDias
What's this nonsense about Ryu being Cloti leader? Neither I nor hito ever relinquished our positions in the pilot's seat. His being on my lap, of course.

By the way, Que, I'm still using my cell phone for Internet, so would you be willing to PM me everything you have about these cards you've been talking about? Dates they came out, translations you've done, translations you've seen performed by others, images, original text wherever possible?

If it's a big hassle, don't worry about it. I'm just genuinely curious, despite how much I wish I wasn't.
 

The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
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TresDias
I posted everything I have here:
http://thelifestream.net/forums/showthread.php?p=251657#post251657

But Ill PM it to you just the same...

Thanks for that. =)

I posted Tifa's full card in the Art collection topic BTW, it's basically all about her and Cloud :monster: and of course one of the lines that she says that's mention is the "Words aren't the only way you can tell someone your feelings." :D and as a description of that line it does NOT say "During an optional scene if her affection is high" it just says she says it, period :monster: I love it when that happens.

El oh el.
 

Dashell

SMILE!
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Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
Okay this is supposedly the original quote of this:

"I'd say, [who Cloud likes] is all how you perceive the game. Cloud, as you know, is a very popular character, so I don't want to confirm the answer either way. Since the players have affection towards him, I want to leave it up to the players to decide who Cloud likes."


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Can anyone confirm or deny? It's too blurry for me.
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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Smooth Criminal
Dear God, Que, why are you bringing up this old quote again?

What does this have to do with anything? It's old and redacted by several other newer quotes that are based on the Compilation of FFVII. What's the point?
 

Strangelove

AI Researcher
AKA
hitoshura
It's not. It sounds just like a twisted version of the last part of that (which was about who Cloud was looking for [in KH1] and not 'who he likes').
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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Smooth Criminal
Well even better. :monster:

In the end, old shit is old. These fucking arguments are like a rabbit eating its own shit for nutrients cause there's nothing else to eat in the cage.

Has it degenerated into the coprophilia stage of debate? Is that what the opposite side is up to now? Eating their own shit arguments and spitting them back out as if they're new?
 

Dashell

SMILE!
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Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
You know what? God for fucking bid I want to double check something that came up recently. I'll just keep the LTD stuff on my forum from now on, sorry.

EDIT:
Thanks Hito.
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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Smooth Criminal
You do realize Tres has his
the-love-triangle-of-ffvii-an-analysis-by-squall_of_seed
that answers all that with pictures and such, right? :monster:
 
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