The Final Fantasy VII LTD Thread (Round 4)

[Dashell]

SO WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?

Everything you just said

For that matter I love when people try to build up what Cloud does with Aerith like it's a huge deal and he does the same thing for Tifa. Like when he goes to rescue her from Shinra, well he tried to rescue Tifa from the Don. Or that he felt guilty about Aerith's death. First of all DUH he felt guilty but he also felt guilty about Zack's. Cloud smiled at the end of AC at Aerith, well he ALSO smiled at Tifa.

It's just funny how often that happens.

 

[Celes Chere]

Well, originally it was because Cloud left the family to be with Aerith - supposedly. Some still don't understand that he left his family for an actual reason.

Not to say Aerith isn't a worthy reason, but... You know what I mean.

 

[Ryushikaze]

I love how some folk say he was 'barely there' at 7th heaven when CoT itself said he tried to be home every night if possible.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Nomura has said a lot of things like that though. How am I supposed to know if someone DID in fact take a quote about KH and mutilate it or if there really was a quote like that out there?

In fairness, the similar sentence structure, wording and shared explanations about Cloud being a popular character did indicate that the "two" quotes were one and the same, only with someone altering the subject from "who Cloud is searching for" to "who Cloud loves" -- especially with the KH Ultimania interview being from 2002 and the supposed "who Cloud loves" quote also being from 2002, as well as the "who Cloud loves" version lacking a question from the interviewer.

Nomura may have said a number of things over the years about wanting fans to interpret things on their own, but this one was just shady as heck.

I think you did great in investigating the matter and establishing an unequivocal sense of finality, but I'm kind of tired of seeing you get willingly strung along and forced to do the work for people who make bullshit claims.

By the way, who did you get the "source" from anyway?

Cause Tres is too busy living life, snortin' coke and having sex with his g/f? I have no clue.

 

[Dashell]

They were similar yes, which is why I decided to investigate to find out once and for all in the first place. I mean yes common sense would say they're the same, but to some people ,that just isn't enough you know? And at the risk of there actually being two quotes like that, I decided to look it up myself.

I think you did great in investigating the matter and establishing an unequivocal sense of finality, but I'm kind of tired of seeing you get willingly strung along and forced to do the work for people who make bullshit claims.

It's not like I mind doing it, though. There's not too many things more satisfying to me then proving certain people wrong. Especially when I'm the one who can say "Well I know for a fact that ___ because your translator told me herself." and like I said, I know THEY aren't going to do the research, so I might as well just confirm it for myself.

By the way, who did you get the "source" from anyway?

Go on take a guess

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

It's not like I mind doing it, though. There's not too many things more satisfying to me then proving certain people wrong. Especially when I'm the one who can say "Well I know for a fact that ___ because your translator told me herself." and like I said, I know THEY aren't going to do the research, so I might as well just confirm it for myself.

Fair enough.

Go on take a guess

Ah.

 

[Ryushikaze]

No, not Ah. The Crazy one. No,the OTHER Crazy one. Yeah, that's the one.

 

[Dashell]

Still [For The One I Love] doesn't make it a quote now does it? It's talking about love and different types of love apparently. They don't say which type is Cloti's. Who knows if that's what they reveal? They don't say for sure. I won't acknowledge it just like you won't acknowledge Cloud's happiness at seeing Aerith reach out for him.

I can't believe these people still exist

EDIT
Sorry, I realize this isn't the thread for this. I'm just just frustrated with this person XD

On another note, to be fair, that quote was listed on a site about Tifa and there was Cloti stuff on there. So the Cleriths didn't twist that one, a Cloti did.

 

[Strangelove]

I still don't understand people bringing up the 'different types of love' applying to the whole page when that is cornered off in a separate box setting it apart from the rest of the page.

But then I remember some of the other stuff that this whole thing has given birth to over the years

 

[Ryushikaze]

I still don't understand people bringing up the 'different types of love' applying to the whole page when that is cornered off in a separate box setting it apart from the rest of the page.

But then I remember some of the other stuff that this whole thing has given birth to over the years

Are disparaging the UTTERLY RATIONAL Lifestream family, Cloud being a Cetra, Spirit Sex, Mako Parasite, Soul melding, etc. theories? You FIEND.

 

[Strangelove]

A demi-fiend, maybe

[/obscure joke]

 

[Ryushikaze]

Is this Wretched Demi Fiend,
half asleep upon my knee
some freak, from a menagerie?
NO!
It's Hito, the half a fiend!

 

[Dashell]

All the couples from the other games aren't optional. Nothing clarifies that it's romantic love for Cloud and Tifa. You can't just pick and choose what you want the header to apply to.

If they were meant to share romantic love, they would state it. When you go to their reference pages it still doesn't say for sure. You're trying to force the same non existant point down my throat.

Are one of you guys trolling me? Because I'm really starting to think that's what's going on here.

 

[Vendel]

Are one of you guys trolling me? Because I'm really starting to think that's what's going on here.

I would say it is our famous duper. But it doesn't have her (or her sisters lolz) feel to the post.

 

[Celes Chere]

Are one of you guys trolling me? Because I'm really starting to think that's what's going on here.

Shit, she's on to us! Everyone act natural!

 

[Vendel]

Shit, she's on to us! Everyone act natural!

 

[Ryushikaze]

Are one of you guys trolling me? Because I'm really starting to think that's what's going on here.

Wait wait...
All the other games aren't optional....

and you CAN'T pick and choose?

So... Cloud and Tifa go go!

Quex, tell your ninny that there is a specific ALTERNATE HEADING for displays of Nonromantic love- and that's the difference between the two sections, Displays of ROMANTIC and NON romantic love. Cloud and Tifa with their mutual feelings, are displaying their romance, they're confessing. The date, with its optionality, is also in 3/4 cases a (failed) attempt at confession.

That's the thing, the cliche. All the seens they're showing are ATTEMPTED OR SUCCESSFUL CONFESSIONS. Cloud and Tifa CONFIRM. The confession succeeds.

This has been your daily does of Allcaps instead of Bold.

Ven, there is nothing natural about the Turkish Power Rangers

 

[Vendel]

Quex, tell your ninny that there is a specific ALTERNATE HEADING for displays of Nonromantic love- and that's the difference between the two sections, Displays of ROMANTIC and NON romantic love.

Q is already ahead of you there. It didn't help.

Ven, there is nothing natural about the Turkish Power Rangers

Oh you guys meant 'normal' natural? Gotcha.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Q is already ahead of you there. It didn't help.

Is this the same Neoseekers idiot, or a new one?

Oh you guys meant 'normal' natural? Gotcha.

Well, I'm pretty sure Turkish Power Rangers were synthetically assembled in a lab too.

 

[Dashell]

Is this the same Neoseekers idiot, or a new one?

It's on another forum, I'm send you a link on MSN.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Confirmation of a fact that actually changes absolutely nothing: According to Amano himself, his art has no bearing on the characterizations or story of an actual game. It is just art to be enjoyed and appreciated, so just enjoy it.

Currently this is Hearsay, but Sheila said folks were taping, so it'll be up on Youtube shortly.

 

[Dashell]

wait what are you talking about now? Was he asked about all the Cloud x Aerith art?

 

[Ryushikaze]

1. ALL the? There's as much C/R and S/A art as C/A.

2. He was asked about his designs being changed. He said his art didn't reflect the final product or the story.

 

[Dashell]

2. He was asked about his designs being changed. He said his art didn't reflect the final product or the story.

Well you realize IMO, that they'll probably just use this to their advantage and say he was only talking about characters changing looks or something. Even though it does say "story" I know but.. yeah idk, i'll just watch the vid when it pops up.

 

[Vendel]

Currently this is Hearsay, but Sheila said folks were taping, so it'll be up on Youtube shortly.

I can't be the only one who first read that as "heresy" can I?