The Final Fantasy VII LTD Thread (Round 4)

[Ryushikaze]

Sora is the one who stated he was also looking for IT. And the it is HIS FUCKING LIGHT. Not Cloud's light. What possible reason would he have to look for that?

So once again it was Sora who equated Clouds struggles with finding his own personal light. And Cloud responded to that.

Ven, calm down, bucko. I think you're misunderstanding what is being said.
Tres is just saying that Sora doesn't explicitly say 'Yeah, I searching for my light too', but that Cloud picks up on that.

And Batsy- yeah, he was special to her in that she worried about him a bit, but that's about it.

She definitely enjoyed Squall do his katas, tho.

 

[Max Payne]

And Batsy- yeah, he was special to her in that she worried about him a bit, but that's about it.

How is that any more special than her worrying about all of the other characters?

She worried about sora and Lionfart after all.

 

[Ryushikaze]

How is that any more special than her worrying about all of the other characters?

She worried about sora and Lionfart after all.

...Hence my 'but that's about it.' At least in KH:FM she seems to know what he's up to and takes an interest in it.
But mostly it's Leon's ass.

 

[Max Payne]

I wasn't really directing that question at you so much as I was aiming it at the general premise.

 

[Eerie]

I don't get why you guys are going on about KH

I'm with Shu on this, I mean... what I got from KH was 'oh, since Aerith died in FF7, they can't really use her in the post FF7 games, so they use her because fans love her". And Cloud and Aerith DO share a special bond, so seeing each other would be happy, especially for fans who were upset about her dying.

Does it spell love? I don't fucking care. What I see is what they created in the FF7 universe, where Aerith *is* special to Cloud, but is not the woman he is in love with. The KH storyline is a cutesy AU at best. Yes, that includes Tifa being Cloud's light and all that jazz. It's cute, it gives in for the fans, but... it doesn't have an once of interest when you talk about the real characters and the FF7 universe. IMHO.

 

[Tennyo]

^This. Haven't we discussed it before how KH does not matter? Whenever someone tries to insist that it does just ignore it, I would say. :/

 

[Madame Mayor]

^This. Haven't we discussed it before how KH does not matter? Whenever someone tries to insist that it does just ignore it, I would say. :/

This entire debate is based off of one side insisting irrelevant things matter.

 

[Raquelborn]

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Cheers

 

[Max Payne]

shameless plug

lol.

 

[looneymoon]

While KH isn't relevant to FF7, I don't see the harm in discussing it in the context of its own canon. In fact, I don't think I've seen anyone in the last few pages trying to insist that KH has any bearing over the events in FF7.

I mean, I can understand if you all think it makes more sense having it in a different topic or something. But considering the same characters are involved (albeit in different incarnations) it seems a bit redundant.

 

[Vendel]

In fact, I don't think I've seen anyone in the last few pages trying to insist that KH has any bearing over the events in FF7.

That's because we don't put up with that sort of bullshit here.

Other places? Not so much.

 

[Raquelborn]

lol.

Oh come on. It's on topic.

 

[Madame Mayor]

Oh come on. It's on topic.

I wrote something in the guest book, but awesome job. I'm really impressed with how neat and organized it all is.

 

[Winter]

Idk, the same reason why they bothered to put Zack and Aerith together and relate her character to his in many ways no matter how many times it gets called "the past" when it applies to the future. WHY IN THE HELL WOULD THE CREATORS FOCUS SO HEAVILY ON ZACKAERITH I mean omg it's just in the past and means nothing anymore.

Don't worry, I don't expect an answer.

So... because they have feelings for each other?

you seem to be implying something snarky regarding my feelings on Zeris, but I'm missing the connection to the question I asked.

wat do

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Cloud came off as especial to Aerith in KH to you?

I dunno, the FF squad seemed to be riding Squall's dick pretty hard.

Aerith seemed to have a preoccupation with Cloud in KH is all I'm saying. I'm sure she'd be as concerned about her other friends as well, but the developers went out of their way to give us scenes like her asking Sora about him in KH:FM and then their farewell scene in KHII. Not to mention how the last time we see her in KHII, she's just sort of waiting around where Cloud left.

As for riding Squall's dick, but of course.

I wrote something in the guest book, but awesome job. I'm really impressed with how neat and organized it all is.

Agreed.

Tres, I say we take future Cosmological discussion of KH to the appropriate threads, because it's an interesting sideline, but has spiraled out of control here.

Sounds good.

 

[Celes Chere]

So... because they have feelings for each other?

you seem to be implying something snarky regarding my feelings on Zeris, but I'm missing the connection to the question I asked.

wat do

More snarky towards most of Cleriths views on Zack x Aerith. xD Whenever I say "Why would they put these scenes in here? Why would they say their relationship is inseparable?" I never get an answer. xD

As a real answer to your question, idk, I don't think it's a confession of love. Everyone knows Aerith is important to Cloud, so it makes sense he'd reunite with her.

 

[Vendel]

All this KH talk has me waxing nostalgic about the Cleriths reaction to Tifa being introduced in KHII. I believe there were death threats involved.

Thank goodness we don't have anyone that would threaten death over a fictional pairing hanging around here.........

Right?

 

[Celes Chere]

Okay it's pissing me off. People saying,

"TIFA SO DUM SHE LOOKS BEHIND WALLS FER CLOUD LOLOL"

Did they forget that there's a secret fucking passage behind that wall? Dumbasses. Quit trying to make Tifa seem like she's a moron because your head is up your arrrse.

 

[ShuShu]

TIFA'S IN DISSIDIA IT'S SO FUCKING CANON NAO GUYS.

Screw all the Ultimania quotes, and commentary on their relationship. This shit, is seriously what matters.

 

[Winter]

Okay it's pissing me off. People saying,

"TIFA SO DUM SHE LOOKS BEHIND WALLS FER CLOUD LOLOL"

Did they forget that there's a secret fucking passage behind that wall? Dumbasses. Quit trying to make Tifa seem like she's a moron because your head is up your arrrse.

she was still kind of an idiot though

I mean she was seriously wrecking Ansem's personal area full of important information because she was looking for a dude that she WOULD HAVE KNOWN WASN'T THERE HAD SHE JUST ASKED SORA INSTEAD OF BEING VAGUE

 

[looneymoon]

Well, it's better than Cloud looking for Sephiroth. In a Colosseum. Which only had like, 3 rooms.

Then again, Sephiroth has wings coming out his ass. He wins in the ridiculous department.

 

[Winter]

he also made a deal the devil

then got mad when the devil fucked him over

REALLY CLOUD, WHAT DID YOU EXPECT

 

[Celes Chere]

she was still kind of an idiot though

I mean she was seriously wrecking Ansem's personal area full of important information because she was looking for a dude that she WOULD HAVE KNOWN WASN'T THERE HAD SHE JUST ASKED SORA INSTEAD OF BEING VAGUE

Lol, I hope you're joking hun.

She didn't wreck anything. They still got all of the information they needed. She kicked the wall, ooo big deal. Tifa isnt so stupid whereas she would think Cloud is under a fucking picture frame. She is clearly trying to get behind the wall. Maybe she didn't think Sora knew, idk. All I know is it baffles me that people want to make Tifa seem like she seriously is looking for Cloud in ridiculous places when she's trying to actually find something that EXISTS in the room. /face palm/ I know Aerith is perfect and everything, but don't be such a douche to Tifa.

 

[Roger]

I know rite, I was like "yeah I dun think Cloud is hiding under the desk... or behind a book and I don't think there's anything behind that wall." Then she leaves the room and Leon appears out of nowhere in front of said wall and I'm like "forget I said anything."

 

[Winter]

I guess it's possible that she didn't think Sora would know, but shit, would it have hurt to ask? It just didn't seem that logical.

also as I recall she pretty much ransacked that room. Wasn't she looking for Cloud?

I'm generally not a douche to Tifa seeing as I'm actually rather fond of her character, especially in the Compilation. But Cloud's sidestory in KH was so overly vague that they ended up watering down Tifa's character faaar too much. I find her to be pretty unlikable in Kingdom Hearts II, but I also think she's mostly out of character too, so there's that.