The First Epic LTD of TLS forums

[I Am Not Me]

Nope.

That's a common misconception. I heard that many old couples have stayed together for long because they have platonic love.


Edit: And I have no idea why they put that there. Is it even the right word? As what Ryu said, it could mean differently in the Japanese verse, especially when the Kanji is concerned.

And...gah... I need to read moar.

 

[Celes Chere]

Aww, no Zerith smex?

 

[Ⓐaron]

I have to wonder about that translation since platonic love is generally implied to involve no romantic interest whatsoever. There was obviously romantic interest between Zack and Aerith - they may not have actually consummated their relationship with sex but it's pretty obvious from context that their relationship was more than just a relationship of the mind.

 

[I Am Not Me]

NO. O_O

Aerith and Zack having smex...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Ⓐaron]

Let's face it, characters generally don't write hundreds of letters or completely change their fashion sense for the rest of their lives over a platonic love. Zack wouldn't have risked his life trying to return to Aerith if it were a platonic love either.

 

[paoo]

NO. O_O

Aerith and Zack having smex...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

But atleast I think Cloud and Tifa have it. 8DDDDDD

 

[Celes Chere]

Zack wouldn't have risked his life trying to return to Aerith if it were a platonic love either.

What I believe, is that they mean it was platonic to begin with. Other quotes show that later on their bond became much more.

 

[Ⓐaron]

Oh, that would make sense I guess.

 

[Shademp]

Who the heck did that just now to the topic title?!

 

[Vendel]

Yes, and? I don't disagree on any particular point you made there, sooooo...

The point is that you seem to be agreeing with most of what I say. Yet you insist that the real Cloud was somehow shining through on disk one. He wasn't. He was no where to be found outside his own head.

And in case you forgot the context of the discussion let me refresh your memory.

The only thing I would actually debate or rather, discuss in this thread is this idea that Cloud is MIA on disk one, because I think it's bullshit. Plus, it makes Aeris seem like a complete nutjob who has a hard on for someone she doesn't even know.
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I'm not suggesting Aeris knew every aspect of Cloud, but she did know the real him,

Guess what? Cloud is MIA on disk one and Aerith does have it bad for someone she doesn't know. By the time she figures out something is wrong she gets killed.

That is the point.

 

[I Am Not Me]

But atleast I think Cloud and Tifa have it. 8DDDDDD

NO.




AND LAWL LTM

 

[Ryushikaze]

I changed the title, Shad.

Y'know, not to bring drama from elsewhere over here, but does anyone else find it HILARIOUS how a vague section of the fandom from years and years ago that no one here was ever a part of is somehow being held against us? It's like some folks who shall remain pointedly nameless see this entire side of the fandom as an amorphous collective monster, all somehow indistinguishable from the rest.

I mean, that'd be as ludicrous as me saying that every Clerith fan in the world believed in spirit sex in the flowerfields.
And yet, that is the sort of thing I see said about an entire side of the fandom on a forum of a certain color to remain unspecified, by someone considered quite prominent amongst their ranks. And said in a thread talking about bias, discrimination, and generalization. Truly, it boggles how the hypocrisy goes unnoticed.

 

[Sheepy]

I just dropped by to lawl at the new and improved title. Good job! *thumbs up*

 

[Eerie]

Improved title is improved Me love it XD

@Ryu: generalizing is easiest, me think. It saves the troubles of thinking 'oh but there might be some nice people over there'. So, it's easier to be rude to the other like this

 

[mentaz]

I just had to post this.

 

[Strangelove]

I have to wonder about that translation since platonic love is generally implied to involve no romantic interest whatsoever. There was obviously romantic interest between Zack and Aerith - they may not have actually consummated their relationship with sex but it's pretty obvious from context that their relationship was more than just a relationship of the mind.

I think unconsummated romance would be the best way to look at it. They called it specifically a romantic love, so it can't just be a meeting of minds.

 

[Edley]

Zack, maybe second base... unless they did it in the church?

Spikey and Tiffs however ...

 

[paoo]

Cloud and Tifa = Chocobo-stable = Nothing can go wrong.

 

[Sheepy]

^ Hmm, I don't know... I can think of a couple of things that could go wrong, especially if there's a chocobo in the stable.

 

[Channy]

Beastiality is better than Cloti

Spoken by a true Clerith on that forum. And they say that they're above hypocrisy for ragging on our couple.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

IDK, furry!Cloud x furry!Zack was mostly just creepy, and that's the only instance I can think of bestiality being better than any FF7 couple.

 

[Channy]

They were actually talking about shipping RedxCloud over CloudxTifa. x:

Also found this interesting little quote

That's what always irks me about Cloti shippers that say "Cloud must choose Tifa, because Aerith is dead". To start, why would he start loving Tifa now when Aerith is dead when in our opinions he never did. And there is lots of women in the world not just Aerith. Cloti bugs me about the fact that Cloud only would choose Tifa as a replacment not a soulmate. Cloud loves Aerith still so why push a relationship with Tifa because he cannot physically be with Aerith? It is possible to be single...

APPARENTLY these people never played the lifestream scenes in FFVII to completely disregard Cloud's crush on Tifa that is STILL present.

Come on, even I'M not THAT naive.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

It's like a test on rabidity!

Which is more disgusting to you: CloudxTifa, CloudxAerith, or CloudxRed? If you didn't answer CloudxRed, you're prolly rabid.

 

[Channy]

xD

I'm looking at their forum, and they have two sub forums for the same thing.
Evidence pro Clerith
Evidence anti-Cloti

lolwat?

 

[Celes Chere]

Beastiality is better than Cloti

Let me redirect whoever said that to Vendel's signature.

Evidence anti-Cloti

Ever read the "Evidence Against Cloud and Tifa" subforum? Hilarious. What fucking pisses me off about their "Craziest Cloti Evidence" thread, is that that I've seen direct quotes by users CHANGED to sound rabid. (They edit the actual quote with poor grammar and think that's no longer direct quoting. Idiots.)