The First Epic LTD of TLS forums

[Sheva Alomar]

lololol

 

[I Am Not Me]

Okay, guys. What happened to the FFVII LTD nao?

 

[mentaz]

What FFVII LTD?

 

[Ryushikaze]

RyuxMei

I appreciate the sentiment, but not the illegality of your age.
Ship me with you again when you won't land me on to catch a predator.

Aww, you caught me. Hehe, but I just think Cloud is an emo fuck and should stay happy with hand one and two. Squall proved himself and got tongage with Rinoa while Cloud has spiderwebs between this thighs. That is my solid proofed arguement.

Yeah, but Peter Parker had spiderwebs there too and he was happily married for over twenty years til Joe Quesadilla decided fans couldn't relate despite 20 years of fans growing up with a married Pete and then deciding to make him single in one of the stupidest hamfisted plot arcs ever in the history of comics. Especially when they specifically went with a teen Pete for the ultimate continuity and had him specifically not get together with MJ there because he was worried for her safety.
The Quesadilla needs to step away from Marvel soon.

Pete was in a Love Triangle of his own, actually. With three girls (MJ, Gwen, and a girl I don't recall the name of).

Anyways, Cloud has made his move. It was he who intimated that Tifa would be by his side in perpetuity in a way different than before in CoT.
It is he who grows happier living with her and the kids, so much so that the guilt of his past failures begins to weigh at him, etc. etc. etc.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Yeah, but Peter Parker had spiderwebs there too and he was happily married for over twenty years til Joe Quesadilla decided fans couldn't relate despite 20 years of fans growing up with a married Pete and then deciding to make him single in one of the stupidest hamfisted plot arcs ever in the history of comics. Especially when they specifically went with a teen Pete for the ultimate continuity and had him specifically not get together with MJ there because he was worried for her safety.
The Quesadilla needs to step away from Marvel soon.

Pete was in a Love Triangle of his own, actually. With three girls (MJ, Gwen, and a girl I don't recall the name of).

Felicia, maybe? She's the only other person I can think of. But yeah, the creators wanted him to get with Gwen, but MJ had such a fan following that he ended up getting with her. How happy!

I was wondering how some people feel about the narrative of CC in relation to the LT. I've always wondered why, if Clerith was supposed to be the obvious pairing, they keep showing her with her first boyfriend, Zack, or they show Cloud with Tifa. If they're supposed to be together, why is it they always seem apart?

 

[Madame Mayor]

You guys sure liked my little rant. And then you have all these lulz without me *sadface*

Seriously guys, the best TLS pairing is totally BaltheaxCeles. Sometimes Ryu gets in on that but then it just gets confusing and we needs quotes to confirm the true pairing and blah blah blah.

Pete was in a Love Triangle of his own, actually. With three girls (MJ, Gwen, and a girl I don't recall the name of).

I've always hated MJ and loved Gwen... and the way they portrayed her in the movie make me want to slap someone.

I was wondering how some people feel about the narrative of CC in relation to the LT. I've always wondered why, if Clerith was supposed to be the obvious pairing, they keep showing her with her first boyfriend, Zack, or they show Cloud with Tifa. If they're supposed to be together, why is it they always seem apart?

I got the impression that they were trying to end the LTD once and for all. Kind of a, "Okay guys, it was fun while it lasted, but seriously, knock it off now." While it wasn't as in your face as the Clerii need, it was enough for casual gamers who might have been on the fence or didn't care too much to see where SE was going with all of that.

 

[Celes Chere]

Seriously guys, the best TLS pairing is totally BaltheaxCeles. Sometimes Ryu gets in on that but then it just gets confusing and we needs quotes to confirm the true pairing and blah blah blah.

Yeah! We're even going to get married, and then I will move to Canada and get to go to a good school. <3 My wife is always looking out for me.

Oh, the FFVII LTD... er.. em...

Cloud loves Tifa.

 

[I Am Not Me]

ur wrong cloud loves aerith. uhh.. stupid rapid!

 

[Celes Chere]

he does not love Aerith shes dead just get over it dumface.

 

[Dashell]

Celes quit being a poopy head, of course he loves her,

 

[Celes Chere]

you cleriths are always calling me names u bitches

 

[KissTheRain]

Psssh. Squall's bitch Rinoa is awesome. Bite meeeeee!!! Na na na, Meimei. XD

Lolz, I agree Rinoa is the shit. :3

So pulling the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalalala can't hear you" is a perfectly reasonable way to look at a story?

I think it is working well. Oh you don't know do you? My opinion is always canon, pshh silly Vendel.

How much more confirmation do you want, really?

Idk, that's just how I feel. Maybe i'm just being a greedy bitch because I want Cloud single, but you know. I think Cloud loves both Aerith and Tifa, but in love? Nomura and Nojima are throwing cards for Tifa and Aerith and I don't think their plan was to make Cloud have two girls even if many approve of the 3 way. So I deem him single. And another part that makes me believe Cloud is single is when Nomura said "I don't know if Cloud and Tifa are dating now" (something like that), if they were confimed why does he say that? It sounds like Cloud hasn't made the move yet really..

KTR is totally cool with her boyfriend living with a hot woman who wants him and raising kids with her.

Aww, you got me...

Yeah, but Peter Parker...Marvel soon.

That is a great parellel I do say so myself. You are a bright man Ryushikaze. But, since this is a debate I must disagree. Peter and Cloud were different because of my quote before."I don't know if Cloud and Tifa are dating now" by Nomura. They aren't actually married and there was already another girl in the beginning of the LTD that screwed Cloud's one choice option in the ground. Marvel was very stupid, and i'd agree SE is getting there on VII with these stupid twists and turns to the LT. I think they keep changing up their story to appease fans, there are reasons the remade AC. Like how at first Tifa was a koibito, but the Cleriths don't like that so they get one with Aerith, and then Aerith loved Zack and now she doesn't, and Cloud and Tifa are "childhood friends" (yeah right) even though they never really talked. They just change their words to appease the fans and it is really starting to bug me. It's like a game of tug a war for both sides and neither have all the rope, so I just go in the middle and be happy there. (yeah, yeah my simile sucks. U.U)

It is he who grows happier living with her and the kids, so much so that the guilt of his past failures begins to weigh at him, etc. etc. etc.

And about his guilts he needed help from Aerith and Tifa, and if he loved Tifa and the kids enough I think her little lecture about caring about them might have worked better, than needing a dead chick to tell him to do it. That always came off as Tifa wasn't good enough to me.

I was wondering.......apart?

My dear, this was the past a lot of things can change in 5-8 years. Maybe Clerith isn't "true love", but seeing Aerith has gotten over Zack and Cloud seems none to sure about who he loves Yuffie Zerith or Cloti may not be either.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

My dear, this was the past a lot of things can change in 5-8 years. Maybe Clerith isn't "true love", but seeing Aerith has gotten over Zack and Cloud seems none to sure about who he loves Yuffie Zerith or Cloti may not be either.

Yeah, I know. But why even make the game and highlight Zerith as such a nice relationship if Cloud's supposed to end up with Aerith? Why make Zack die trying to get back to his girlfriend? Why have that dramatic ending of Zack's death with Aerith's last letter playing over it? If she's supposed to get over him, they're not doing a very good job of proving it.

To make a Harry Potter parallel, Ginny and Neville went to the Yule Ball together, but in the books, he was a very bad dancer and she looked very uncomfortable with him, which is shown up in later books by her relationship with Harry. But SE didn't seem to do something like this, and I don't understand why.

 

[KissTheRain]

Yeah, I know. But why even make the game and highlight Zerith as such a nice relationship if Cloud's supposed to end up with Aerith?

I'm not saying Cloud should end up with Aerith. I like Aerith single so I don't want her with Zack or Cloud. My OTP for her is with Sasuke, because I love crossover pairings and I think my story i've made for Aerisuke is better than Zerith or Clerith because there are no confusions or holes. For FFVII, I think Aerith is over Zack or at least not in love it's just love as a friend maybe. And Cloud I think she loves him again, but is not in love.

To make a Harry Potter parallel

Excellent parellel.

 

[Celes Chere]

I agree, Nin. If they didn't want to emphasize the Zerith relationship, they wouldn't have. They wouldn't have tied anything that relates to Aerith, to Zack because they didn't need to for the story to work. That's something that they made happen though, and it can't be for no reason.

edit: plus I have a tendency to like canon pairings so omg that means I'm right.
(Seriously, lamest reason I've heard from the rapid side ever)

 

[KissTheRain]

They wouldn't have tied anything that relates to Aerith, to Zack because they didn't need to for the story to work.

Yes they do. Zack made Aerith who she is today. She used to be a timid little girl who hid away in her church all day, with no experience with people, a job, or much of anything. It showed how Zack warmed her up to the world and got her outta the house. So yes Zack is a very important role in Aerith's life. And if anything they had to show that her and Zack were dating because in VII it said they were.

Now everyone we can do a group "awww.." after that

 

[Celes Chere]

What I mean is, Aerith wore a pink dress and a pink ribbon in the original FFVII game. Everyone simply thought that was Aerith's taste, and just her normal attire. However, Crisis Core shows us that what she wears is tied back to Zack. She also sells flowers, but we don't know it's Zack that opened the whole new world to her, and we don't need to know that information for the story to progress. As cute and lovely as it all is, it's really not important to the plot at all. It didn't need to be added in, and yet, it was. Saying that Aerith's attire is her own taste and she sold flowers simply to make money in the slums would have been perfectly fine reasons- and yet, it all goes back to Zack.

Also, it's really annoying that I type in Cloti and a lot of the pictures are Anti. I keep seeing this crap:

Get a better pass-time.

 

[Raquelborn]

And about his guilts he needed help from Aerith and Tifa, and if he loved Tifa and the kids enough I think her little lecture about caring about them might have worked better, than needing a dead chick to tell him to do it. That always came off as Tifa wasn't good enough to me.

Tifa caused him to realise how badly he was dragging his feet and actually get on his bike and do his best but when Aerith talked to him he was already on the way to save the children. In other words, Tifa was the main motivator there. Aerith appeared to try to stop him tearing up further. And to me it looked like he was mostly getting upset over Tifa and the prospect of failing to save the children rather than anything to do with Aerith in that particular scene in the woods.

But if you mean generally, then surely it'd feel unjustified and silly if Tifa could take away all of Cloud's guilt over another person's death with one talk. It's also a combination of Tifa, Marlene, Aerith and Vincent that eventually help him resolve to try and have his "sins forgiven". No huge credit goes to one person or the other. But it is his family (including Tifa) that are shown to be now the most important thing to him throughout the movie. Therefore, I really couldn't say that Tifa isn't enough for Cloud based on that.


@ Crisis Core topic.
I personally think it shows how much Zack meant to Aerith and Tifa meant to Cloud back then but I don't think that all that somehow makes Aerith's feelings for Cloud/ZackCloud any less important or strong. It does put Cloud and Tifa's roots more firmly in the ground however for FFVII and their relationship beyond it.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Too bad the creators attribute Tifa and the kids as the catalyst for getting Cloud out of his funk, which any person who pays attention to the movie, sees for themselves. Don't know how you missed the memo on that one.

I'm not saying Cloud should end up with Aerith. I like Aerith single so I don't want her with Zack or Cloud. My OTP for her is with Sasuke, because I love crossover pairings and I think my story i've made for Aerisuke is better than Zerith or Clerith because there are no confusions or holes.

Stopped reading there. Validity gone.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Also, it's really annoying that I type in Cloti and a lot of the pictures are Anti. I keep seeing this crap:

Get a better pass-time.

WHY DOES AERITH HAVE SIX FINGERS OH GOD CANNOT UNSEE. D:

 

[Ryushikaze]

What I mean is, Aerith wore a pink dress and a pink ribbon in the original FFVII game. Everyone simply thought that was Aerith's taste, and just her normal attire. However, Crisis Core shows us that what she wears is tied back to Zack. She also sells flowers, but we don't know it's Zack that opened the whole new world to her, and we don't need to know that information for the story to progress. As cute and lovely as it all is, it's really not important to the plot at all. It didn't need to be added in, and yet, it was. Saying that Aerith's attire is her own taste and she sold flowers simply to make money in the slums would have been perfectly fine reasons- and yet, it all goes back to Zack.

Also, it's really annoying that I type in Cloti and a lot of the pictures are Anti. I keep seeing this crap:

Get a better pass-time.

Ah yes, the rabid pinker- if the canon isn't helping, make up a new one where it does.
Their anti Cloti and Zerith sigs reveal just how threatened they are by the whole thing, since they've got to invent a version where Aerith chews out Zack and Cloud dies rather than grab Tifa's hand to support their ship.

And yes, Tifa and the kids are the catalyst to snap Cloud out of his funk. Everyone else give him the little pushes along the way, but they aren't catalysts.

@Nini, there aren't six, but I wanna know why The hand/Tifa's pinky is so utterly short and deformed.

 

[Dashell]

oh those souless Cleriths, what will they think of next?

Also In b4 someone makes a Clack version of this.

 

[DrakeClawfang]

What I mean is, Aerith wore a pink dress and a pink ribbon in the original FFVII game. Everyone simply thought that was Aerith's taste, and just her normal attire. However, Crisis Core shows us that what she wears is tied back to Zack. She also sells flowers, but we don't know it's Zack that opened the whole new world to her, and we don't need to know that information for the story to progress. As cute and lovely as it all is, it's really not important to the plot at all. It didn't need to be added in, and yet, it was. Saying that Aerith's attire is her own taste and she sold flowers simply to make money in the slums would have been perfectly fine reasons- and yet, it all goes back to Zack.

Also, it's really annoying that I type in Cloti and a lot of the pictures are Anti. I keep seeing this crap:

Get a better pass-time.

Bah, Anti-Cloti is something else entirely. I never understood it. I may ship Clerith and all, but I don't hate Tifa in the least, she's awesome. Just because you like one pairing doesn't mean you have to hate the other pairings.

That picture brings up something else too. I don't believe they're the majority (at least I hope not), but apparently some Cleriths actually want Cloud to die. Because, I dunno...I guess it would be a good (????) ending to the Compilation? And Aerith is dead, so hey, kill Cloud off so he can be together with her and the two of them can spend etenity having threesomes with Zack.

Sometimes I wonder if I'm really a Clerith and not just a neutral with Clerith tendancies...

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

You don't have to subscribe to every Clerith belief to prefer it. Just like you don't have to believe Cloud and Tifa had sex under the Highwind to believe in Cloud/Tifa. Some ideas and theories about FFVII couples are bizarro crazy, but some just prefer Cloud with one girl or another.

 

[I Am Not Me]

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