The Genesis Sequel

Max Payne

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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
[quote author=Makoeyes987 link=topic=488.msg17392#msg17392 date=1234475244]
Fuck Nomura, let Michael Bay at the Compilation. He'll make it happen.
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METEOR SHOULD COME BACK AND CLOUD CID AND BARRET SHOULD FLY A SHUTTLE ONTO IT AND FIGHT OFF GIANT ROBOTS WHILE SETTING A DRILL TO PUT A BOMB INTO IT THEN BLOW IT TO BITS
 

strode78

Lv. 25 Adventurer
im not postulating at all what the compilation SHOULD do. i am speculating what it WILL do. i still havn't stated or even decided what i WANT to happen, but this is the route that i believe they will take.
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
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Smooth Criminal
Tetsujin's a cold muthafucka. BURNED. :monster:

Dacon said:
METEOR SHOULD COME BACK AND CLOUD CID AND BARRET SHOULD FLY A SHUTTLE ONTO IT AND FIGHT OFF GIANT ROBOTS WHILE SETTING A DRILL TO PUT A BOMB INTO IT THEN BLOW IT TO BITS

And that's when Sephenesis pops out with a rocket launcher from one of the robots and starts shooting 1000 rockets at them for them to guard against.

And strode78, you're a glass half empty kinda guy, aren't you?
 

Max Payne

Banned
AKA
Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
[quote author=Makoeyes987 link=topic=488.msg17404#msg17404 date=1234476368]
Tetsujin's a cold muthafucka. BURNED. :monster:

Dacon said:
METEOR SHOULD COME BACK AND CLOUD CID AND BARRET SHOULD FLY A SHUTTLE ONTO IT AND FIGHT OFF GIANT ROBOTS WHILE SETTING A DRILL TO PUT A BOMB INTO IT THEN BLOW IT TO BITS

And that's when Sephenesis pops out with a rocket launcher from one of the robots and starts shooting 1000 rockets at them for them to guard against.

And strode78, you're a glass half empty kinda guy, aren't you?
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NO, ROCKETS THAT SHOOT ROCKETS THAT SHOOT EVEN MORE ROCKETS RESULTING IN THE BIGGEST EXPLOSION EVER
 

Super Mario

IT'S A ME!
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Jesse McCree. I feel like a New Man
[quote author=Makoeyes987 link=topic=488.msg17389#msg17389 date=1234475117]
I have a novel idea. Why not have Genesis fight characters who aren't dead? :monster:

And wow...FFVII meets the last season of Dragonball Z. Wonderful. That's some truly epic writing right there. Yup.

I'd love it if it came full circle like that. Maybe they can do a fusion dance and become Genephiroth. Or...maybe Sephenesis. Then they'd have TWO WINGS! YES!

Then Jenova can come back from the sky! They fight and Cloud starts losing so he has to fuse with the spirit of Zack, becoming Clack! And Clack goes up against Sephenesis. Clack readies Omnislash Omega while Sephiroth charges ULTIMA FINAL NOVA and then...CLASH! Followed by...

Pyrotechnics in the distance. Followed by a guitar solo.

Holy fucking shit. You sold me dude. I want this made. NOW.
[/quote]

GAH! that punchline reeks of fail and cancer.


You meant


"Followed by...




PYROTECHNICS IN THE DISTANCE!!! GUITAR SOLO!!!!!!!!
"


l2read Michael Bay script before following this.
 

strode78

Lv. 25 Adventurer
well, we all know the the TRUE ultimate boss is the cheese weapon, so i'll throw that in for consideration on the michael bay remake front
 

Max Payne

Banned
AKA
Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
[quote author=Emperor Joker link=topic=488.msg17407#msg17407 date=1234477007]
[quote author=Makoeyes987 link=topic=488.msg17389#msg17389 date=1234475117]
I have a novel idea. Why not have Genesis fight characters who aren't dead? :monster:

And wow...FFVII meets the last season of Dragonball Z. Wonderful. That's some truly epic writing right there. Yup.

I'd love it if it came full circle like that. Maybe they can do a fusion dance and become Genephiroth. Or...maybe Sephenesis. Then they'd have TWO WINGS! YES!

Then Jenova can come back from the sky! They fight and Cloud starts losing so he has to fuse with the spirit of Zack, becoming Clack! And Clack goes up against Sephenesis. Clack readies Omnislash Omega while Sephiroth charges ULTIMA FINAL NOVA and then...CLASH! Followed by...

Pyrotechnics in the distance. Followed by a guitar solo.

Holy fucking shit. You sold me dude. I want this made. NOW.
[/quote]

GAH! that punchline reeks of fail and cancer.


You meant


"Followed by...




PYROTECHNICS IN THE DISTANCE!!! GUITAR SOLO!!!!!!!!
"


l2read Michael Bay script before following this.
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Makoeyes987

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Smooth Criminal
Oh god, the thread has degenerated into sharing macros.

Okay no. :monster:

And you know, IF they did remake FFVII and included a "Gold WEAPON" that looked suspiciously like cheese, I'd actually LMAO and love it.
 

strode78

Lv. 25 Adventurer
"Cheese Weapon
Get the wierd chocobo(check chocobo rumor section) Now ride the chocobo out of midgar and ride it to rocket town. (Note that you cannot go on mountains because the Weird Chocobo is afraid of heights.) Run around the rocket ten times and you can enter it. Now you will be prompted: "Where to?" You can answer one: "Disneyland" "West Side" "Party" Choosing Disneyland will take you to Gold Saucer, where all the costumes will be Disney-oriented. West Side takes you to a hidden area in midgar where Barret _really_ grew up. Party will take you to Costa Del Sol, where Cid is having a kegger in the house with everyone else (including the Turks.) BUT YOU WANT TO CHOOSE THE HIDDEN FOURTH OPTION. This will bring up another question: "Are you sure?" Answer "Yes" and you will fly to the moon. When you land you have ten seconds to run into the cheese weapon, who is skipping by just as you land. If you touch him you can fight him. If not, game over. Stats of the Cheese Weapon: ----- HP: 2,000,000,000 MP: 20,000 Attacks: Sharp Cheddar (a physical attack, causes around +8000 damage) Cheese Sneeze (Causes +5000 damage to all plus poison and confu) Cheese Freeze (Ice based, causes +7000 damage to one) Cheese Breeze (Wind based, causes +5000 damage to all) Cheese Degrees (Fire, causes +8000 damage to one) Vitamin Cheese (Heals the Cheese Weapon for 9999 HP) Death by Cheese (Causes 9999 damage to all, used when HP is down to 1,000,000. Can only be blocked by casting shield or barrier beforehand) EXP: 1,000,000 AP: 1,000,000 (like you'd need all that, anyway) Gil: 1,000,000 Win: Cheese Ring Steal: Cheese armlet (If you can equip it during battle, which you really can't, it will absorb all damage taken from the cheese weapon as HP) Morph: Cheese Source (raises stats of all characters to 255) Notes: ----- The Cheese Weapon will summon four Cheeseasaurus Rexes (yes, the ones from the Kraft Cheese and Macaroni commercial.) They can attack you for about 3000 HP each, and can steal items from you (they usually wind up stealing everything you have, but you can steal them back. you win them back at the end of the battle, anyway.) The easiest way to beat the Cheese Weapon (I tested this and it ALWAYS works) is to summon Odin, which will turn him into cheese slices, then summon Titan to turn him into a cheese sandwich. Then summon Typoon to turn the sandwich over. Then summon the Knights of Round to put toppings on the sandwich. They will put on: Ham, Turkey, Salami, Bologna, Mayonnaise, Mustard, Pickles, Olives, Lettuce, Tomato, Peppers, and Onions. Then the big guy at then end (i think it's king arthur) will cut the sandwich in half"


best...rumor...ever
 

Arianna

Holy, Personified
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Katie; Seta.
[quote author=strode78 link=topic=488.msg17417#msg17417 date=1234478923]"...The easiest way to beat the Cheese Weapon (I tested this and it ALWAYS works) is to summon Odin, which will turn him into cheese slices, then summon Titan to turn him into a cheese sandwich. Then summon Typoon to turn the sandwich over. Then summon the Knights of Round to put toppings on the sandwich. They will put on: Ham, Turkey, Salami, Bologna, Mayonnaise, Mustard, Pickles, Olives, Lettuce, Tomato, Peppers, and Onions. Then the big guy at then end (i think it's king arthur) will cut the sandwich in half..."[/quote]

Ooooooooookay, someone was very hungry when they made this one up. ;D

[quote author=Dacon link=topic=488.msg17413#msg17413 date=1234478509]
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;D AHAHAHAHAHA!!! :P

[quote author=Emperor Joker link=topic=488.msg17407#msg17407 date=1234477007]
PYROTECHNICS IN THE DISTANCE!!! GUITAR SOLO!!!!!!!!
"


l2read Michael Bay script before following this.
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:P lol

Well, concerning the images from the latest Transformers sequel trailer... We'd have some action, that's for sure.


[quote author=Makoeyes987 link=topic=488.msg17389#msg17389 date=1234475117]Then Jenova can come back from the sky! They fight and Cloud starts losing so he has to fuse with the spirit of Zack, becoming Clack! And Clack goes up against Sephenesis. Clack readies Omnislash Omega while Sephiroth charges ULTIMA FINAL NOVA and then...CLASH! Followed by...[/quote]

:P lol

You know, I do and I don't want this - Jenova actually is the ultimate of ultimate bosses.

She totally merges with anyone that has her cells (note: kids and adults who were healed of geostigma, et al. not included) - be they spirit or caporeal.

Then, it's an all out battle to the finish for the life of the planet.

To make it even more suspensful, before the final blow, we cut to an ending scene. Depending on how you did in the final boss battle, you get a good or a bad ending.

Good would be that the planet remained and life went on as best it could after that traumatic event. Perhaps a remake of the '500 years later' scene, but hopefully with something more to it...

Bad would be the opposite.

Possibly, Vincent automatically taken over by Chaos and killing all (or perhaps so overpowered by the full force of Chaos' energies, he dies a gruesome death and we see Chaos as some transparent spirit form beginning to kill all).

Omega would form and then shoot off into space after a gathering of the whole of the lifestream, leaving a dead shell with a monstrous Jenova seen down below, perhaps feeding.

Maybe even Omega shooting off and Jenova following after...?
 

Alex

alex is dead
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Alex, Ashes, Pennywise, Bill Weasley, Jack's Smirking Revenge, Sterling Archer
[quote author=strode78 link=topic=488.msg17417#msg17417 date=1234478923]
"Cheese Weapon
Get the wierd chocobo(check chocobo rumor section) Now ride the chocobo out of midgar and ride it to rocket town. (Note that you cannot go on mountains because the Weird Chocobo is afraid of heights.) Run around the rocket ten times and you can enter it. Now you will be prompted: "Where to?" You can answer one: "Disneyland" "West Side" "Party" Choosing Disneyland will take you to Gold Saucer, where all the costumes will be Disney-oriented. West Side takes you to a hidden area in midgar where Barret _really_ grew up. Party will take you to Costa Del Sol, where Cid is having a kegger in the house with everyone else (including the Turks.) BUT YOU WANT TO CHOOSE THE HIDDEN FOURTH OPTION. This will bring up another question: "Are you sure?" Answer "Yes" and you will fly to the moon. When you land you have ten seconds to run into the cheese weapon, who is skipping by just as you land. If you touch him you can fight him. If not, game over. Stats of the Cheese Weapon: ----- HP: 2,000,000,000 MP: 20,000 Attacks: Sharp Cheddar (a physical attack, causes around +8000 damage) Cheese Sneeze (Causes +5000 damage to all plus poison and confu) Cheese Freeze (Ice based, causes +7000 damage to one) Cheese Breeze (Wind based, causes +5000 damage to all) Cheese Degrees (Fire, causes +8000 damage to one) Vitamin Cheese (Heals the Cheese Weapon for 9999 HP) Death by Cheese (Causes 9999 damage to all, used when HP is down to 1,000,000. Can only be blocked by casting shield or barrier beforehand) EXP: 1,000,000 AP: 1,000,000 (like you'd need all that, anyway) Gil: 1,000,000 Win: Cheese Ring Steal: Cheese armlet (If you can equip it during battle, which you really can't, it will absorb all damage taken from the cheese weapon as HP) Morph: Cheese Source (raises stats of all characters to 255) Notes: ----- The Cheese Weapon will summon four Cheeseasaurus Rexes (yes, the ones from the Kraft Cheese and Macaroni commercial.) They can attack you for about 3000 HP each, and can steal items from you (they usually wind up stealing everything you have, but you can steal them back. you win them back at the end of the battle, anyway.) The easiest way to beat the Cheese Weapon (I tested this and it ALWAYS works) is to summon Odin, which will turn him into cheese slices, then summon Titan to turn him into a cheese sandwich. Then summon Typoon to turn the sandwich over. Then summon the Knights of Round to put toppings on the sandwich. They will put on: Ham, Turkey, Salami, Bologna, Mayonnaise, Mustard, Pickles, Olives, Lettuce, Tomato, Peppers, and Onions. Then the big guy at then end (i think it's king arthur) will cut the sandwich in half"


best...rumor...ever
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Okay, defeat Jenova Synthesis, Bizarro Sephiroth, and Safer Sephiroth, and start escaping from the crater. When the battle between Cloud and Final Sephiroth ensues, start to run away. You won't be able to, but keep doing it. Sephiroth will hit you for 1 damage at intervals. Keep running. You have a 1 in 128 chance of escaping when he hits you. When you finally escape, you will be standing outside of Midgar (don't ask me how.) You will have a brief moment of thought and then you will commence the battle with Meteor. Meteor Stats: ----- HP: 9,999,999,999,999 MP: 0 Attacks: Earth Crush (used one minute into the battle, which destroys the planet and ends the game.) Meteorain (as per the limit break) Comet, Comet2 EXP: 1 AP: 0 Gil: Like a big rock would carry gil! Win: Some scars and the praise of billions. Steal: Comet Materia, Space Junk, Moon Rock Morph: Tissue Notes: ------ In a nutshell, you have exactly one minute to kill Meteor before it hits earth, but here's how you can do it. YOU WILL LOSE THIS BATTLE if you don't have a Transform materia in your rotation. You need to cast Mini on Meteor five times. You can insure doing this by casting Haste on yourself. After you hit Meteor five times with Mini the battle will end, and you get 1 EXP and 0 AP. Meteor will get mad and crash down on earth, but it's only the size of a house and lands on Don Corneo's mansion. Go back into midgar using a disabled key item called the "Pogo Stick."

Oh yes, I know the fucking score here.
 

ForceStealer

Double Growth
[quote author=Makoeyes987 link=topic=488.msg17389#msg17389 date=1234475117]Maybe they can do a fusion dance and become Genephiroth. Or...maybe Sephenesis. Then they'd have TWO WINGS! YES![/quote]

AWESOME! THEN THEY COULD FLY STRAIGHT! :monster:
 

Max Payne

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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
[quote author=ForceStealer link=topic=488.msg17444#msg17444 date=1234490432]
[quote author=Makoeyes987 link=topic=488.msg17389#msg17389 date=1234475117]Maybe they can do a fusion dance and become Genephiroth. Or...maybe Sephenesis. Then they'd have TWO WINGS! YES![/quote]

AWESOME! THEN THEY COULD FLY STRAIGHT! :monster:
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I laffed.
 

Nocturne

Watching Thee From The Moon
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Just Nocturne will do
Ugh, I can honestly see when FFVII-2 comes out, no matter what, there are going to be people bashing the hell out of it, even if it does surpass the original.
 

Alex

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Alex, Ashes, Pennywise, Bill Weasley, Jack's Smirking Revenge, Sterling Archer
In all fairness that's a given with everything in the video game community. How many of these bashes are justified and not just elitist old school conservative fanbois being butthurt that their favourite piece of nostalgia is mainstream not retro anymore, remains to be seen.
 

Max Payne

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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
[quote author=Nocturne link=topic=488.msg17454#msg17454 date=1234493829]
Ugh, I can honestly see when FFVII-2 comes out, no matter what, there are going to be people bashing the hell out of it, even if it does surpass the original.
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That's a silly thing to say. People bash the hell out of FF7, have since it was released. Why would a sequel be exempt? NO game is free from criticism and naysayers, so there's no point in complaining about people complaining.

So you may as well ignore it if it bothers you.

That said, no way in hell will it surpass the original, even if it's for the sole fact that FF7 has nostalgia on it's side.
 

Nocturne

Watching Thee From The Moon
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Just Nocturne will do
Oh I completely agree with both of you. I was just pointing it out. Kind of like a fleeting thought just passing through my head. I think it's stupid either way when people bash sequels just for the fact that they are sequels.

I think it could surpass it. Yeah it has nostalgia, but that doesnt mean it would be a better game. The only way I can see someone liking an RPG better than another one is if they prefer one type of story to another. (or if the battle system absolutely sucks for one)
 

Max Payne

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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
[quote author=Nocturne link=topic=488.msg17457#msg17457 date=1234494574]

I think it could surpass it. Yeah it has nostalgia, but that doesnt mean it would be a better game. The only way I can see someone liking an RPG better than another one is if they prefer one type of story to another. (or if the battle system absolutely sucks for one)
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I don't see how it could, simply because it's a compilation title and it must fit within the boundaries built in the compilation.

I don't see it happening. But it's your prerogative to believe such, so good luck with that.
 

Nocturne

Watching Thee From The Moon
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Just Nocturne will do
I don't see how it could, simply because it's a compilation title and it must fit within the boundaries built in the compilation.

I don't see it happening. But it's your prerogative to believe such, so good luck with that.

XD well, I was one of the few who actually liked DoC.

But, it's like sequels to other games. I have liked other sequels better than the originals.
 

Masamune

Fiat Lux
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Masa
So Makoeyes believes Cloud & Sephiroth only star in just about every crossover evar because of their narrative relevance? Oh, come on. You might be able to pull the wool over some people's eyes, but not mine. Yes, they are the main characters of FFVII, but that doesn't automatically make them popular. In fact, wasn't Cloud even voted the most popular character or something? So, no, it's not just about representing FFVII. It's about the fanbase those two characters have amassed - and SE duly exploit it.

Yes, AC was a fanservice movie, but then fanservice pervades the entire Compilation. You cannot prove the Compilation is moving away from Sephiroth, particularly when SE are milking him again for ACC. There is no proof he won't appear in the future, yet there is sufficient grounds to believe he will when the guy gives SE a lot of pulling power.

DoC was about Vincent (and proved SE will bring another villain back from the dead at any cost), and CC was a prequel that introduced characters linked to Sephiroth. That doesn't exactly cry out 'NO MOAR SEPHIROTH'.
 

Makoeyes987

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Smooth Criminal
There is no spoon Masamune.

Yes, Cloud was voted the most popular character. So...most popular character, plus...main star of FFVII, pretty much solidifies his invitation to any outside Square Enix franchise that decides to guest star someone from FFVII. Who else is gonna take his spot? Rufus?

FFVII is arguably the most popular FF. Cloud and Sephiroth, are the most popular FFVII characters. They're also the main ones. So no shit, they'll be the ones in other games. But that's outside the context of the story. You think you're going to glint some hint at the direction of FFVII's plot by looking at their role in a spinoff like Itadaki Street Portable? Or are you going to actually look at the creator's true purpose in the actual context and where the story is going?

Which is away from Sephiroth.

Your logic isn't holding up. If they were about exploiting Sephy's popularity and just bringing back Sephiroth left and right, then DC would've tied Sephiroth in too regardless of it being about Vicent(he only got one 5 second flashback), because then it'd have been EVEN MORE POPULAR BISHIES with MORE POPULAR CHARACTERS instead moving away from Sephiroth, introducing other new characters, and mostly focusing on newer threats to the planet. You don't think they could've tied in Sephiroth due to Vincent loving Lucrecia...who just so happens to be Sephiroth's mother? And Hojo, who is Vincent's enemy...and also Sephiroth's father?

Have you conveniently forgot all the theories and speculation about how Sephiroth was going to appear in DC and finally confront Lucrecia regarding his true maternity? And how people were surprised it didn't happen?

You only want to point out them bringing up Sephiroth when you want to. When they don't, you just say "Oh, they'll do it next time, lol." It's inconsistent, and pretty biased. Two games in the Compilation so far have not been about Sephiroth as the main threat to the planet. I'm failing to see any indication Sephy's coming back save for your paranoia about them being popular.

Which could apply to Zack, Aerith, Kadaj, and many others. Who haven't been brought back either.
 

Masamune

Fiat Lux
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Masa
[quote author=Makoeyes987 link=topic=488.msg18073#msg18073 date=1234652998]Cloud and Sephiroth, are the most popular FFVII characters. [/quote]

See, that wasn't so hard was it?

Actually, your logic is flawed, because obviously if they were planning to bring Sephiroth back again, they'd save him until the end and not make it a complete farce by bringing him back in DoC.

Which could apply to Zack, Aerith, Kadaj, and many others. Who haven't been brought back either.

Indeed, they haven't. But does the same apply to Sephiroth? ;)
 

Makoeyes987

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Smooth Criminal
See, you can't have it both ways.

You can't say, "They'll bring back Sephiroth any chance they get and forsake narrative consistency, making the story a farce" but then turn around when they don't and say "They wouldn't bring him back THERE because then they'd be forsaking narrative consistency, making it look like a farce."

Either, they know Sephiroth is done, and that's why they have closed the chapter and avenues for his revival. OR, they are so commercially driven that they will try to bring him back first chance they get and milk him as the only force of evil in Gaia.

You're closing your eyes and ears to what you don't want to believe.

And also by your logic, Squall should be getting a new game soon, given how popular he is. He has just as many outside guest appearances in other games as Sephiroth. He's very popular too. So expect the new FFVIII Compilation too.

And I think yes, it does apply to Sephiroth. If they wanted him back, why would the close the avenues for him to come back for good? Why would they move so away from him so? Just like they did Zack, Aerith, Kadaj, etc etc...
 
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