Things Aerith is not

Alessa Gillespie

a letter to my future self
AKA
Sansa Stark, Sweet Bro, Feferi, tentacleTherapist, Nin, Aki, Catwoman, Shinjiro Aragaki, Terezi, Princess Bubblegum
1. Aerith is not a slut/prositute/whatever word you want to use for sexual promiscuity- Mostly because there's absolutely nothing to indicate that she is. So she flirts with some guy she meets. I didn't realize there was a law against women being proactive about their partners that indicates she's some sort of slut.

2. Aerith is no one's mother- I hate the argument that Aerith isn't a friend or potential lover because obviously she just acts 'motherly' towards, say, Cloud. If the criteria for being someone's mother is caring about someone else and wanting to keep them safe, then Tifa would be considered too much of Cloud's mother to be a romantic partner. Both women are motherly, if you want to call it that, towards Cloud, and it doesn't negate their romantic feelings for him. (being dead, on the other hand...)

3. Aerith is not some sort of pure, angelic, psuedo-Jesus figure- One of the first things you see if you play the game is that she is spunky, flirty, and quite proactive about what she does. To draw a comparison, you don't get that she's some shy, wilting Yamato Nadeshiko type as much as you can see that she is entirely different from her appearance. She's headstrong and dynamic, she isn't cowering behind her big strong bodyguard cause he's gonna save her or anything. She isn't a quiet-but-supportive angelic embodiment of perfection, she is strong and knows what she want. If anything, that characterization would only be apt in ACC where she can't interact with anyone besides people who are dying.

4. Aerith is not the queen of empathy- In life, she's the opposite. She has a tendency to deal with problems by pretending nothing is wrong and going on with her life. She's not like 'OH TELL AUNTIE AERITH ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS BARRET I WILL SOLVE THEM WITH MY EXPERT ADVICE'. She has no other way to deal with it because I doubt she's really encountered problems that her friends had been going through. Being chased by ShinRa all her life and being separated by the fact she was a Cetra probably made it hard for her to make close friends because she felt like no one could understand her.

5. Aerith is not a player- How did this idea even come up? Because she loved two guys? One of them was dead and she was getting over him. He's not a Cetra, so it's extremely unlikely he's just floating around and waiting for her to die. Then after 4 years of not hearing from him, she moves on. It's more amazing she lasted that long without moving on considering how few the times she was able to meet up with Zack were. Eventually she moved on to Cloud, which brings me to...

6. Aerith loved Cloud for Cloud, not Zack- To assume she ONLY reached the conclusion that she wanted to get to know the real Cloud if you got her date is ignorant. Even if she didn't tell Cloud personally that she wanted to be with the real him, she had obviously thought about it and wanted to be with whoever he was. Not getting her date doesn't negate what she wanted to tell Cloud. Moreover, she mentions Cloud as her lover in her OTWAS, indicating that she did fall for the Cloud she wanted to meet and not some illusion of Zack (surely if she did, she would have said that he was reminiscent of her lover and not her lover instead).

7. Aerith is not a Mary Sue- as already mentioned, she does have problems and even though she is another 'last of her kind' stereotype, she's handled just as carefully as Red XIII. Even if she's an optimist, it doesn't mean she has no problems, but she certainly doesn't sit around and mope forever because of them. Aerith has just as many problems as any other character, but she isn't terribly angsty about it.

If you have anything else to add, feel free. <3
 

Marle

Pro Adventurer
AKA
Ava, Spike Spiegel, Stella Nox Fleuret, Altair Ibn-La'Ahad, Princess Zelda, Alice, Raven Roth, Faye Valentine, Tifa Lockhart, Khal Drogo
To that, this is all I can post:

:applause:
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
Aerith is not a crook.

Okay, actually, she kinda is. A swindler, anyways. But the asshats in front of the honeybee inn kinda deserved to get swindled.

But she's totally not a Columbian drug lord.
 

Zee

wangxian married
AKA
Zee
8. aerith is not a virgin

I love this post, and I love you for making it. <3
 

Vendel

Banned
6. Aerith loved Cloud for Cloud, not Zack- To assume she ONLY reached the conclusion that she wanted to get to know the real Cloud if you got her date is ignorant. Even if she didn't tell Cloud personally that she wanted to be with the real him, she had obviously thought about it and wanted to be with whoever he was. Not getting her date doesn't negate what she wanted to tell Cloud. Moreover, she mentions Cloud as her lover in her OTWAS, indicating that she did fall for the Cloud she wanted to meet and not some illusion of Zack (surely if she did, she would have said that he was reminiscent of her lover and not her lover instead).


"Oh Cloud. Even though I practically stalked you because you remind me of someone else. The reason I really love you is because I know you are not them. Now that I know I love you because you are not that other person maybe I should start finding out who you are exactly"

*stab*

"Oh hi Zack"
 

Vendel

Banned
1. Aerith is not a slut/prositute/whatever word you want to use for sexual promiscuity- Mostly because there's absolutely nothing to indicate that she is. So she flirts with some guy she meets. I didn't realize there was a law against women being proactive about their partners that indicates she's some sort of slut.

2. Aerith is no one's mother- I hate the argument that Aerith isn't a friend or potential lover because obviously she just acts 'motherly' towards, say, Cloud. If the criteria for being someone's mother is caring about someone else and wanting to keep them safe, then Tifa would be considered too much of Cloud's mother to be a romantic partner. Both women are motherly, if you want to call it that, towards Cloud, and it doesn't negate their romantic feelings for him. (being dead, on the other hand...)

3. Aerith is not some sort of pure, angelic, psuedo-Jesus figure- One of the first things you see if you play the game is that she is spunky, flirty, and quite proactive about what she does. To draw a comparison, you don't get that she's some shy, wilting Yamato Nadeshiko type as much as you can see that she is entirely different from her appearance. She's headstrong and dynamic, she isn't cowering behind her big strong bodyguard cause he's gonna save her or anything. She isn't a quiet-but-supportive angelic embodiment of perfection, she is strong and knows what she want. If anything, that characterization would only be apt in ACC where she can't interact with anyone besides people who are dying.

4. Aerith is not the queen of empathy- In life, she's the opposite. She has a tendency to deal with problems by pretending nothing is wrong and going on with her life. She's not like 'OH TELL AUNTIE AERITH ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS BARRET I WILL SOLVE THEM WITH MY EXPERT ADVICE'. She has no other way to deal with it because I doubt she's really encountered problems that her friends had been going through. Being chased by ShinRa all her life and being separated by the fact she was a Cetra probably made it hard for her to make close friends because she felt like no one could understand her.

5. Aerith is not a player- How did this idea even come up? Because she loved two guys? One of them was dead and she was getting over him. He's not a Cetra, so it's extremely unlikely he's just floating around and waiting for her to die. Then after 4 years of not hearing from him, she moves on. It's more amazing she lasted that long without moving on considering how few the times she was able to meet up with Zack were. Eventually she moved on to Cloud, which brings me to...

6. Aerith loved Cloud for Cloud, not Zack- To assume she ONLY reached the conclusion that she wanted to get to know the real Cloud if you got her date is ignorant. Even if she didn't tell Cloud personally that she wanted to be with the real him, she had obviously thought about it and wanted to be with whoever he was. Not getting her date doesn't negate what she wanted to tell Cloud. Moreover, she mentions Cloud as her lover in her OTWAS, indicating that she did fall for the Cloud she wanted to meet and not some illusion of Zack (surely if she did, she would have said that he was reminiscent of her lover and not her lover instead).

7. Aerith is not a Mary Sue- as already mentioned, she does have problems and even though she is another 'last of her kind' stereotype, she's handled just as carefully as Red XIII. Even if she's an optimist, it doesn't mean she has no problems, but she certainly doesn't sit around and mope forever because of them. Aerith has just as many problems as any other character, but she isn't terribly angsty about it.

If you have anything else to add, feel free. <3


Nice fanfiction

(that better Ryu?)
 

Alessa Gillespie

a letter to my future self
AKA
Sansa Stark, Sweet Bro, Feferi, tentacleTherapist, Nin, Aki, Catwoman, Shinjiro Aragaki, Terezi, Princess Bubblegum
@vendel

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The Twilight Mexican

Ex-SeeD-ingly good
AKA
TresDias
Guys, let's stay cool and not let the LTD thread leak its way into other threads any more than it already has. The stricter rules placed on it recenty will apply wherever its topic spills over, and both of these "Things [character] is not" threads have been edge-of-a-knife close since their inception.

By the way: Everyone will get enough rope to hang themselves, so if one person is currently having themselves fitted for the noose, you don't have to put yourself in the same position. When someone is making a point of being disruptive like this, there's no need to do the same. Just report the post and it will be dealt with.
 

Marle

Pro Adventurer
AKA
Ava, Spike Spiegel, Stella Nox Fleuret, Altair Ibn-La'Ahad, Princess Zelda, Alice, Raven Roth, Faye Valentine, Tifa Lockhart, Khal Drogo

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
inorite? She totally bumped uglies with Zack and SE is just hiding it, those little rascals. :awesome:

Zack? Pshaw. He died a virgin.

No, she got with a REAL man.

Tifa, I mean.
 

Dashell

SMILE!
AKA
Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
I was making a joke that I didn't get the "Upgrade to pro" gif... but as per usual, my attempts at being funny have failed :monster:
 

Terrafig

Default
AKA
KaleMarsh
Don't worry, Quexinos. I got it.

That said, you guys take your live triangle debate very seriously here. It's cool though. I won't be hatin'.

Another matter,

I didn't have time to read anything but the first sentences when I first came by, and those don't brook any argument. I have some questions on the rest of number three now though.

1. Is it made clear in ACC (I've only seen AC) that she can only interact with dying people? I like her better as a hallucination.

2. Does she really know what she wants? What I liked about Aeris in Final Fantasy VII was the way she hides her uncertainty by making jokes and pushing issues aside. Her heritage creates many conflicts for her, many of which the game implies rather than conducting a blatant investigation.

In the flashback where she insists she doesn't hear voices it seems clear then that she wants to just be human, but I wonder if she still feels that way by the time she dies. Any thoughts?
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
No no. She lost it with Tifa right after Tifa woke up in Nibelheim. See, Aerith was candystriping in a slum hospital, and well, florence nightinggale and all.

But she and Tseng totally got it on right afterwards. To Honor Zack's memory, of course. And because it was hot.
 

Tifabelle

Pro Adventurer
AKA
Tifabelle, Nathan Drake, Locke Cole, Kain Highwind, Yamcha, Arya Stark
oh you kids and your crazy conspiracy theories
 
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