Captain Spectacular
Lv. 1 Adventurer
The thing that annoys me most as a fan of FF7 is how overrated it is.
What annoys you most as a fan of ff7?
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Mantichorus
"I've seen enough."
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- Kris; Mantichorus; Sam Vimes; Neku Sakuraba; Koki Kariya; Hazama; CuChulainn; Yu Narukami; Mewtwo; Rival Silver; Suicune; Kanata; Professor Oak; The Brigadier; VIII; The Engineer
^This is what I was talking about, actually...
The Dead Skin
Lv. 25 Adventurer
A few things. The fanboys and the ones who only like it because there's a Boobs of Steel character.
Lord Noctis
Harbinger of Darkness
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- Caius Ballad
What most recently annoys me is some guy who insists Cloud wasn't the main character because he doesn't contribute anything at all to the story. I'm dead serious.
LicoriceAllsorts
Donator
Cid Vincent slash.
Celes Chere
Banned
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- Noctis
O GOD. It's all because of that scene in the Inn during the game... X_X I LOVE YAOI, but even I didn't see the subtext thar...
Alessa Gillespie
a letter to my future self
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- Sansa Stark, Sweet Bro, Feferi, tentacleTherapist, Nin, Aki, Catwoman, Shinjiro Aragaki, Terezi, Princess Bubblegum
OLD MEN HAVE SEX. this is the basis for most CidxVincent fic.
LicoriceAllsorts
Donator
But they are both so clearly heterosexual. They even have canon love interests (or abuse interests, anyway)
ForceStealer
Double Growth
Cloud had SEX with Tifa and that's not enough to keep yaoi enthusiasts away. There's no way mere interests will cut it.
Lord Noctis
Harbinger of Darkness
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- Caius Ballad
LicoriceAllsorts
Donator
But thats my favourite pairing
This guy are sick.
X-SOLDIER
Harbinger O Great Justice
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Minor annoyance: The inbetween area that the graphics fall in. It's not quite like the old school Sprites of <6, and it's not up to par with >8 for the in-game models, so it's slightly more tough for people to get into if they haven't played it before.
Major annoyance: The fact that there are SO many subtle mistranslations in key parts of the game. I'd forgotten about it until I did my write-up recently, but the failures of the translation teams in so many aspects of this game really bothers me. For example in Ilfana's recount of the Jenova Original Crisis, it sounds like there's multiple participants people by referring to Jenova as "it" and then as "he" like it's a different person, which is even worsened by the fact that Jenova's a FEMALE. Here's the bit with the original Japanese text & Hito's notes that helped me re-write the event properly for my article.
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Major annoyance: The fact that there are SO many subtle mistranslations in key parts of the game. I'd forgotten about it until I did my write-up recently, but the failures of the translation teams in so many aspects of this game really bothers me. For example in Ilfana's recount of the Jenova Original Crisis, it sounds like there's multiple participants people by referring to Jenova as "it" and then as "he" like it's a different person, which is even worsened by the fact that Jenova's a FEMALE. Here's the bit with the original Japanese text & Hito's notes that helped me re-write the event properly for my article.
Hitoshura said:
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Mantichorus
"I've seen enough."
- AKA
- Kris; Mantichorus; Sam Vimes; Neku Sakuraba; Koki Kariya; Hazama; CuChulainn; Yu Narukami; Mewtwo; Rival Silver; Suicune; Kanata; Professor Oak; The Brigadier; VIII; The Engineer
Following on from this pairing talk...
the LTD debate annoys me. Especially since it's still going on after a canon position has been explicitly stated.
the LTD debate annoys me. Especially since it's still going on after a canon position has been explicitly stated.
Cloudskye
Gone
This has been going on for how long? I think I've lost track.
hellsbells
Lv. 1 Adventurer
People who only played Crisis Core and thus think Zack is the true hero of FF7. Makes me raeg.
LicoriceAllsorts
Donator
Ah, but... it was my first exposure to any Final Fantasy, and that was when it was only AC and thus even more confusing. I said to myself, "what is this? Who are these people? They're so beautiful, but it's all so weird". And so then I went and played FFVII so I could find out what it was all about. So it worked as a sort of advertisement to lure me into the fandom.
ForceStealer
Double Growth
ACC is MUCH better for unfamiliars than normal AC. But yeah, you need a pretty good preface to lead people into it.
"All right, so "Mother" is Jenova, which is an alien that's been subdued and has had her cells placed into people for experiments performed by "Shinra," the requisite evil corporation. The people still around from this corporation aren't really good, but they're not keen on the evil guy coming back either so they kinda help the good guys here, got it?"
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"All right, so "Mother" is Jenova, which is an alien that's been subdued and has had her cells placed into people for experiments performed by "Shinra," the requisite evil corporation. The people still around from this corporation aren't really good, but they're not keen on the evil guy coming back either so they kinda help the good guys here, got it?"
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Cloudskye
Gone
"All right, so "Mother" is Jenova, which is an alien that's been subdued and has had her cells placed into people for experiments performed by "Shinra," the requisite evil corporation. The people still around from this corporation aren't really good, but they're not keen on the evil guy coming back either so they kinda help the good guys here, got it?"
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If I was someone who just started playing FFVII, I'd still be confused. x.x;;
My first question would be: Is Shinra good, evil or just netural?
LicoriceAllsorts
Donator
Yes, I was very confused... but also intrigued. You cannot overestimate the spellbinding power of something that is very, very pretty to look at. Then, after I got my blue-ray and ACC came out, I was even more transfixed by its visual awesomeness. I mean, you can see their pores! The pebbles in the street! The stitching on the shoes! If that's not love I don't know what is.
Mantichorus
"I've seen enough."
- AKA
- Kris; Mantichorus; Sam Vimes; Neku Sakuraba; Koki Kariya; Hazama; CuChulainn; Yu Narukami; Mewtwo; Rival Silver; Suicune; Kanata; Professor Oak; The Brigadier; VIII; The Engineer
I know (at least) one person who got into the FF games after watching AC.
Of course, they're quite vocal about how much a good idea it is to redo VII with AC level graphics.
Of course, they're quite vocal about how much a good idea it is to redo VII with AC level graphics.
Masamune
Fiat Lux
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- Masa
AC/C simply doesn't work as a sequel because it's too dependent on the original game for nostalgia value and the audience is supposed to assume too much of WTF is going on. The most accessible sequels work as self-contained pieces of cinema in and of their own right, and don't necessitate the previous instalment, especially if that movie didn't end on a cliffhanger and managed to resolve every plot thread. They can develop and embellish characters/details from the previous movie, but it won't encourage you to watch a 30-minute recap, and a half-assed narration to summarize events of a 50-hour game to ascertain the who, what, where and why. Yes, the movie was marketed predominantly for FFVII fans, but even large parts of that demographic were left scratching their heads at the plot (or absence of one).
AC/C should have veered away from the commercialized, Cloud vs. Sephiroth fanwank and tried to tell its own story within the FFVII universe without the co-dependence on the original game. That way it would have been accessible for all parties.
AC/C should have veered away from the commercialized, Cloud vs. Sephiroth fanwank and tried to tell its own story within the FFVII universe without the co-dependence on the original game. That way it would have been accessible for all parties.