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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    I like the interpretation that, similar to how Hollow can be about Zack AND Aerith, NPTK doesn’t have to be about exclusively Cloud or exclusively Zack. Do I think NPTK is definitive proof a ship has sailed? No. But, I can’t outright say it’s NOT about C/A just like how I can’t outright say...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    I‘m genuinely not sure it will be clearer. However, even if they keep it the same, “I think I can meet her there,” I don’t think C/A fans can use that line anymore as definitive proof that their ship has sailed. We’ve discussed it so much already but: Part 3 is still a long time away but...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    It depends on who you ask. C/A shippers would probably tell you he means Aerith specifically (which is also what the English translation implies), but @Ryeleigh is correct in saying that the OG Japanese script does not use a specific pronoun. Here’s a tumblr thread of one person discussing the...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    If they’re going to do an affection mechanic, what I’m theorizing is that they’re either going to have Cloud only kiss Tifa (Low Affection/Standard) or have Cloud kiss + suggestive fade to black with Tifa (High Affection). Either option will leave no room for debate.
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Also, I am curious if they will continue this trend some people have theorized for Part 3:
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Assuming that then I don’t think that they’ll change the Highwind scene in Part 3 so that Tifa isn’t the main focus. Maybe they’ll add on extra scenes with other party members (and maybe Aerith via a dream) but I feel like Tifa will be the main focus for that section. Now that I think about it:
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    The Lifestream sequence is definitely going to be something to look forward to! Some of the key devs have said that the lifestream sequence is their favorite so they are going to be spending a lot of time to carefully craft it together. I agree that Nojima has slowly been building up Cloud and...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Que sera sera indeed. Still tho, I personally think Rebirth has solidified a main love interest at least for the casual player/viewer. I’m not saying that Cloud and Aerith don’t have any cute or romantic moments in the game, and I think we’ve established in this thread that they do, but you...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Huh, ok, fair point, and thank you for the extra evidence. I’ll take your word (and the gamefaqs threads word) for it!
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Feel free to chime in if you want to add more, but I respectfully disagree. There are moments where opportunities to raise your affinity with Tifa are also nudged in your direction/emphasized. A couple of examples I’ve seen so far
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    And that’s so sad, Cloud has a beautiful bond with both heroines and they are both important to the plot! ┏┓ ┃┃╱╲ in ┃╱╱╲╲ this ╱╱╭╮╲╲house ▔▏┗┛▕▔ we ╱▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔╲ STAN TIFA & AERITH ╱╱┏┳┓╭╮┏┳┓ ╲╲ ▔▏┗┻┛┃┃┗┻┛▕▔
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Thanks for looping me back in @Yumelinh. The differences between the EN and JP Script are definitely a source of controversy (especially for the theory crafters and/or shippers). I can’t speak for all of the localization differences but, from the scene you are describing specifically, some...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    A friend I have who speaks German says that it means, “How Lucky!”
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    I mean to be fair, Aerith’s GS Date does tie-in very well with events that occur in Chapter 13 and Chapter 14 but that’s primarily because those chapters serve as a conclusion to Aerith’s character arc as far as we know. From that “non-shipper”s perspective, I can understand their opinion that...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    This is a great take! Aerith is the heroine of the external plot (Holy and Meteor) and Tifa is the heroine of the internal plot (Cloud’s mental state) Now that I think about it, I like how the ending of Rebirth reinforces and hints towards the roles both heroines will play in the Part 3:
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    You have a good point. Personally, I still stand by my point that Chapter 14 is a good conclusion or bookend to Cloud and Aerith relationship.
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Yea, as of Rebirth, I think that is a pretty solid relationship chart and I hope that is the one the devs were going for. Despite the fact that most of the Cloud and Aerith scenes in Chapter 13 and 14 are “non-optional”, none of them are as explicit and reciprocal as Cloud and Tifa’s GS date.
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Sounds like we are all on the same page here. こいびとつなぎ (koibito tsunagi) is undoubtedly “intimate” but still vague enough to be open to interpretation. It’s a great ambiguous (slightly romantic-leading) representation of Cloud and Aerith’s relationship. Also, anyone else feel like the topic of...
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    SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

    Yup it’s a Japanese phrase and type of handholding westerners typically see a lot in anime. I’m not saying that you’re implying that it’s ONLY a big thing in Japan, but I think anyone who plays the game, even if they’re not aware of Eastern slang or terminology,
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