Baseless but fun Crack theories part deux

[Cannon_Fodder]

Nah, if Cloud cuts off Sephiroth's head some messed up little pretty boy will shove it into his chest and BAM! Instant-Sephiroth. It's like ramen noodles that wants to end all life on the planet.

 

[Tennyo]

Vincent can't be a Time Lord.

He didn't change appearance when he came back to life.

He's a HIGHLANDER.

EPIC OMG!

Ah-HA, it's been shown in the original series that a Time Lord can keep their previous appearance when they regenerate - it's just the Doctor never does.

Is this how they explain the change whenever they get a new Doctor? lol

However, Cloud and Sephiroth are Highlanders: that's how they're able to come back time and time again. Cloud will only finally beat Sephiroth when he learns to take the head.

I would actually like to see that.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Ah-HA, it's been shown in the original series that a Time Lord can keep their previous appearance when they regenerate - it's just the Doctor never does.

And there is a slight change: his hair is longer.

When was this established? And why is it that all the other timelords we see regenerate change their appearance each time as well?

 

[Mantichorus]

When was this established? And why is it that all the other timelords we see regenerate change their appearance each time as well?

No, not every time. from here: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Regeneration

During regeneration, the body of a Time Lord is typically reconfigured into a new form, though this is not always the case (DW: The Doctor's Daughter, The Stolen Earth). The new form is generally, though not invariably, physically younger and healthier (in human terms) than the Time Lord's previous incarnation. The Time Lord might gain or lose height and body mass. After each regeneration there is often a marked change in personality. During the process of regeneration there are the genetic equivalent of 'bit errors' in the DNA of the regenerated cells. This is what causes the appearance of the Time Lord to change; because even the cells of the brain regenerate as well, their brain chemistry and organisation will change. Although the aspects of their personality caused by "nurture" will not change, the "nature" contribution to their personality will change.

The degree of control that Time Lords have over their end appearance is unclear. The Master was able to make his next regeneration as young as the Doctor was at the time, though since most regenerations lead to younger bodies this may have been a coincidence. (DW: Utopia) Romana seemed adept enough at the process to custom design her new appearances, trying several bodies before finally deciding on a copy of Princess Astra. The Doctor criticised Romana for taking on the form of another person, suggesting such things were not unheard of. (DW: Destiny of the Daleks) In contrast to Romana, the Doctor did not appear to have much control over his post regeneration appearance; after his fourth regeneration he commented "that's the problem with regeneration, you never quite know what you're going to get" (DW: Castrovalva), and would restate this immediately prior to his ninth regeneration (DW: The Parting of the Ways) (Although the violent nature of his regenerations as opposed to Romana apparently triggering her regeneration on purpose might have something to do with this difference).

I'm also fairly certain that it's stated in The Five Doctors that the then President of Gallifrey had regenerated, despite being played by the same actor.

Nah, if Cloud cuts off Sephiroth's head some messed up little pretty boy will shove it into his chest and BAM! Instant-Sephiroth. It's like ramen noodles that wants to end all life on the planet.

...So... Jenova is a mutated Pot Noodle...? Suddenly, everything makes sense.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Using 'Doctor's daughter' as an example of timelord regernation doesn't really jive, given it falls within the time period of 'regrowth' post regeneration which allowed the Doctor to regrow his hand.
As for Romana's regeneration, since she both begins and ends that sequence as Lalla Ward, I just took it as her using some sort of projector unit to have a joke with the Doctor, as befit her post regeneration personality. That, or she knows how to use the machinery which was used to decide the new face for the Doctor's regeneration at the end of War Games, when he kept refusing face after face.

Re: the five doctors, I do not specifically recall such a line. Where in the episode was this?

In any case, the technology of Gallifrey lets the timelords break their own general rules. Vincent, away from such, should have had to change face, were he a timelord.

 

[Mantichorus]

Using 'Doctor's daughter' as an example of timelord regernation doesn't really jive, given it falls within the time period of 'regrowth' post regeneration which allowed the Doctor to regrow his hand.
As for Romana's regeneration, since she both begins and ends that sequence as Lalla Ward, I just took it as her using some sort of projector unit to have a joke with the Doctor, as befit her post regeneration personality. That, or she knows how to use the machinery which was used to decide the new face for the Doctor's regeneration at the end of War Games, when he kept refusing face after face.

Agreed on "Dcotor's Daughter". However, cultured from Gallifreyan cells, it's possible she might count. With the "War Games" regeneration, it was a forced change, where the Time Lords made the Doctor regenerate as part of his punishment, along with the exile. The faces shown were possible regenerations, not the Doctor actually changing. I think most people in the fandom put Romana's multichange down to the excess regenerative energy left over in her system, such as with the Doctor renegerating a hand in the Christmas Invasion. Either that, or she wasted regenerations.

Re: the five doctors, I do not specifically recall such a line. Where in the episode was this?

Will have to recheck. However, I do remember a line about regeneration in it, where Peter Davidson says in the commentary: "But it's the same actor!"

In any case, the technology of Gallifrey lets the timelords break their own general rules. Vincent, away from such, should have had to change face, were he a timelord.

Hmm, maybe he has access to a chameleon arch? Or maybe whatever junk Hojo injected into him interefered with the regeneration process...

...The way I'm debating this, you could almost think I was serious... O_o

 

[Dark and Divine]

Lucrecia is Ifalna's twin sister.

And Hojo is Gast's envious younger brother.

 

[Cannon_Fodder]

Lucrecia is Ifalna's twin sister.

And Hojo is Gast's envious younger brother.

If that were true, would Vincent, Sephiroth and Aerith all go to that same family reunion? If so, fuckin' awkward

 

[Tennyo]

^ lol I'd like to see fanart/read fanfiction of such a thing. ^

 

[Mantichorus]

Lucrecia is Ifalna's twin sister.

And Hojo is Gast's envious younger brother.

If that were true, would Vincent, Sephiroth and Aerith all go to that same family reunion? If so, fuckin' awkward

This reminds me of a fanfic I wrote pre-Compilation, where

Spoiler

Vincent had been adopted by Hojo's parents

and

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was actually the birth twin of Ilfalna

and

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he'd been put up for adoption to fulfill a prophecy regarding the events of the original game

.

Ryu - OK, turns out I was misremembering that. Maybe it's in Arc of Infinity instead? All I know, it was a Peter Davidson story, and there were Time Lords. And I only remember that it was Davidson because of the commentary.

 

[Vossler]

If that were true, would Vincent, Sephiroth and Aerith all go to that same family reunion? If so, fuckin' awkward

You know, it may be a possibility as disturbing as that may be.

 

[Ghost X]

I think Denzel will be a playable character in any FFVII sequel, especially seeing clips of him wielding a pole or something in ACC like a sword, and he will no doubt be as emo as Cloud. The ending of DoC makes it seem like a sequel will take place in the immediate future of the storyline, which douses my hopes of Denzel being the adult protagonist.

I'm not exactly sure if I know/remember what Genesis is all about, so it'll be interesting to see his alignment in a sequel. If he is pro-life and anti-humanity, he could be a pretty good villian, and if Sephiroth raises his head again, there could be two villains who hate each other, and make for epic battle scenes. Then there is Weiss, who I guess is alive too, but I don't have a theory for him,so too bad.

 

[Dashell]

Cloud's NOT EMO

oh wait... i see what you did

 

[Ghost X]

Cloud's NOT EMO

oh wait... i see what you did

I'm curious. What did I do? =P.

 

[Ryushikaze]

I think the next FF7 installment should be an ensemble work, like FFIVTA. I've no real problem with Denzel and Marlene having a chapter, just so long as they aren't 'ZOMFG DA HEROES!'

And Cloud really isn't emo. He's kind of the opposite. He's both arguably literally depressed, and said depression is largely insular, instead of expressed, which is kind of a defining aspect of Emo.

 

[Ghost X]

Okay, good points made. With what happened in AC and DoC, I would be interested to see what the world of FFVII looks like in a sequel too. I hope they make it fully explorable, like the original, and not like, say, FFXII.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Well FFXII was pretty damn expansive in terms of its exploration. May not have had a world map or anything, but you could go a lot of places on foot and explore if you wanted.

 

[Ghost X]

Well FFXII was pretty damn expansive in terms of its exploration. May not have had a world map or anything, but you could go a lot of places on foot and explore if you wanted.

True, but I do like the world map. I wish they could incorporate both styles into one.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Yeah, both would be best.

 

[Dashell]

I think Nanaki needs his own game... it could take place years after everyone is dead. I'd play that

 

[Mantichorus]

Despite what the fangirls would have you believe, Sephiroth is not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy.

 

[Dashell]

Despite what the fangirls would have you believe, Sephiroth is not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy.

Now you've done it!

That's more of a fan assumption that just won't die I think

 

[Mantichorus]

Now you've done it!

That's more of a fan assumption that just won't die I think

Hey, it's Christmas. Someone had to make the gag. I flipped a coin with God, and as always, He won, so I had to do it.

 

[Tennyo]

It's been nice knowing you, Manti. But I can already hear the stampeding of angry Sephiroth phangirls so I think I'm going to make like a tree, and all that.

 

[Ghost X]

If Sephiroth really is the messiah in any sequel, it'd take some impressive writing, that's for sure. I can think of a way they could do it, magically take the Jenova out of him or something. Any bet Genesis will be the one to do it.