Baseless but fun Crack theories part deux

The Twilight Mexican

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Drake, that was fucking awesome. That's some great literary analysis right there.

You mind if I add that to my FAQ? I think that article would compliment Ryu's article about Firion's influence on Cloud quite nicely.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
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Tim, Ryu
Ah sure, why not?

Cloud at the beginning of AC has gone off his own, pretty much forsaken his teammates and lived alone in the church. At this time he only uses the Main Blade to fight and that's the only one he's seen carrying around.

To expand this further, let's look at the other blades. The Hollow Blade slides over the Main Blade, while the Back Blades connect to the back of the Main Blade. Together, the three of them form the basis of the Buster Sword shape the completed swords take on. The two Side Blades don't provide such a critical function but are still an important part of the overall construct.

In AC/C, and his life as a whole, who are the most important people in Cloud's life? Easy - Tifa, Zack, Aerith, Denzel and Marlene. Obviously, Tifa, Aerith and Zack symbolize the Hollow Blade and the two Back Blades, as they are the three most important to shaping Cloud's character. Marlene and Denzel are thus naturally, the two smaller Side Blades. Together, the five of them are the people closest to Cloud. You can go a bit further with that - Tifa, as Cloud's future, is the front Hollow Blade, while Zack and Aerith, Cloud's past, are the Back Blades.

Throughout AC/C, Cloud reaffirms his bonds to those people - he reunites with his family and has visions of Aerith (and Zack in ACC). And it's as Cloud makes these connections again that he begins to add more swords to the Main Blade in his fights, rediscovering the love and support of those close to him and using more than just his primary weapon to battle.

From the Forgotten City to the Bahamut battle to the Kadaj battle, Cloud steadily adds more and more of the auxiliary swords to the Main Blade as he becomes more confident in who he is and fights to protect the people he loves. The Main Blade (Cloud) alone isn't enough to win, he has to use the auxiliary swords (Tifa/Aerith/Zack/Marlene/Denzel) to strengthen the Main Blade so it can be strong enough.

The Sephiroth battle is the pinnacle of this - Cloud unleashes his ultimate attack, Omnislash Version 5/6. He battles Sephiroth with the combined sword, then separates it and finishes him off. It's suitable Cloud does this right after Sephiroth threatens what he cherishes, and Cloud has his iconic "there's not a thing I don't cherish" retort. By responding to Sephiroth's threat with this final attack, Cloud is symbolically (and literally) attacking him with the courage and strength given to him by those around him. It's perfectly fitting that when Sephiroth threatens to take those things away, Cloud uses all six weapons individually, yet acting through one attack, to take him down, finishing off, of course, with a slash from the Main Blade.

And, most blatant, when all six swords combine, when Cloud fights with the strength of his loved ones, the Fusion Swords become the Buster Sword - a symbol of pride, courage, honor and heroism.

That works, actually. Like the Firi techniques narrative satisfaction, it works even if it's not intentional.

And Usher, type up that 10-2 idea. I at the least would be curious. I definitely need to get on elucidating how KH is FF3 Redux.
 
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Celes Chere

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Noctis
You mind if I add that to my FAQ? I think that article would compliment Ryu's article about Firion's influence on Cloud quite nicely.

I never thought I'd see the day when these two would have combined articles! Brava. =D
 

Gym Leader Devil

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So many names
@Drake: Your theory is 100% non-crack. It rocks.

And, I have a new crack theory all my own. Before he visited Nibelheim, Sephiroth became aware of and visited DeepGround. There he had a very brief, dysfuntionally fucked up relationship with Rosso. The next villain in the Compilation will be their 'love' child come to destroy Cloud and Vincent for killing his mom and pop. The end of the game will feature him allowing his dad to use him for yet another resurrection, except this time Vincent will just shoot him in the back of the head and be done with it.

During the credits, Cloud will pencil himself in a vacation day from his delivery service, to be taken whenever he chooses. Tifa will find it very sweet, until he informs her its actually for the next time Sephiroth inevitably finds a way back from the dead. She will then punch the shit out of him.
 

Mantichorus

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The Buster Sword as seen in AC is actually hollow. In it, Cloud is hiding a forgery of The Fallen Madonna With the Big Boobies by Van Clomp.
During the credits, Cloud will pencil himself in a vacation day from his delivery service, to be taken whenever he chooses. Tifa will find it very sweet, until he informs her its actually for the next time Sephiroth inevitably finds a way back from the dead. She will then punch the shit out of him.
:lol:
And Usher, type up that 10-2 idea. I at the least would be curious.
OK, since you asked... Although, I now realise it's been years since I first came up with it, and I can't remember it fully. :doh:

So, here's a rough guideline version. I first came up with it in a fit of "wtf?" at Nomura's comment that FFX/FFX-2 was the past of FFVII. It's pretty much pure crack. Anyway...

~~~~~

The events of FFVI

Magic ‘dies’ from the world. The old age of the world ends.
Terra has a son, possibly with Edgar. The child is named Heine.

The heroes of FFVI eventually die out, due to age, natural causes, etc. Heine discovers he retains a small amount of the magic that once encircled the world. Eventually, he develops an obsession over his power, and attempts to enslave the world.

Heine lives for centuries, unnaturally prolonging his life. He takes many ‘brides’ during this time, but finds he can only sire daughters. These daughters will in time become known as sorceresses.

The people rise up against Heine, only to find they have been attacking a decoy. Heine disappears, never to be heard from again. Over the years, Heine’s name is incorrectly transliterated into the form “Hyne”.

The people who rose against Heine found the civilisation that encompasses the globe, which will one day called the Centra. Centuries later, the Centra civilisation seemingly vanishes over night.

The first Guardian Force is discovered. Some GFs take forms similar to those once owned by the Esper civilisation. No-one remembers the Espers enough to notice the similarities. The GF Odin takes residence in the most impressive of the ruins left behind by the Centra.

The Shumi are discovered in the far north.

The Ester, an until now minor civilisation, is taken over by a sorceress. As it comes time for the sorceress to die, she passes her powers to a successor, who then becomes commander of Ester. This continues until the reign of Adell, who is ‘outwitted’ by a former Galbadian soldier called Laguna Loire and his colleagues.

During the reign of the sorceresses, a form of matter/energy manipulation is pioneered. It is finally perfected for use with a Guardian Force by one Dr Odine, who names it para-magic. Para-magic becomes widespread.

The events of FFVIII

The Ester government produce several transport vehicles, all based around a similar design (as seen in the shuttle Ragnarok).

Eons pass. A meteor fragment impacts, and emit’s a strange force that destroys the Guardian Forces. It also has another effect. The people of Ester, more and more enamoured with technology, start to evolve differently from the rest of humanity, the only tell-tale sign of their difference being their spiral pupils. They begin calling themselves the Al Bhed.

It also effects the life-cycle of the Shumi and their Moomba relatives. The Shumi slowly become more humanoid, no longer metamorphosing during their own lifetimes. Likewise, the Moombas slowly become more humanoid, developing impressive horns and rudimentary speech along the way. The become the Guado and Ronso, respectively.

The Al Bhed are driven out of Ester by an invading group of humans, who rename it “Zanarkand”.

The first Fayth is founded in Beville. It takes the form of the dragon king, Bahamut. A few ponder over the similarities, but dismiss it as an embodiment of an old fable.

The machina war between Zanarkand and Beville

Time passes…

The events of FFX/FFX-2

The Al Bhed uncover an airship of Ester design, which they dub “Celsius”. This is procured by an Al Bhed called Brother. The Al Bhed later uncover an experimental piece of magitek armour from eons past. This is dubbed the “Machina Maw”, before being procured by Brother’s sister, Rikku. (The Al Bhed are not amused.)

An Al Bhed called Shinra sees the potential in drawing energy from the spirits of the deceased on the Farplane.

The Al Bhed are gradually re-absorbed into the main human genome after centuries of inter-marriages.

The Guado further evolve, renaming themselves the Cetra (any relationship to the vanished Centra civilisation is unknown).

The Ronso, however, seemingly devolve, losing the ability to walk bipedal and becoming quadrupeds. They also lose their horns. However, they become far more genteel in their speech patterns.

JENOVA crashes to the Planet

Materia is discovered, a physical form of the Planet’s knowledge. Summons are also found, once again some taking forms used by the Espers, GFs and Fayths.

Time passes…

The events of FFVII

Further into the future…

The Planet hits meltdown. The few survivors go into a form of suspended animation. The Planet becomes known as Terra.

The events of FFIX
 

The Twilight Mexican

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Over the years, Heine’s name is incorrectly transliterated into the form “Hyne”.

Which would be the same in katakana. :awesome:


But that is pretty fucking cracked. :monster: Hopefully they never try to do anything like that for real. The Spira-to-Gaia connection made sense, but the novelty is cool only as long as it remains a novelty.
 

Ryushikaze

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Tim, Ryu
It's massive and impossible crack, but fun crack. You need to get Hyne from FF3 involved there too.
 

Gym Leader Devil

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So many names
Usher, you have impressed me greatly with this crack theory. The greatest thing about it, if you told this to a casual gamer with some specific knowledge about the FF main series, but not complete information on all of them, this might actually fool that person.
 

Mantichorus

"I've seen enough."
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Kris; Mantichorus; Sam Vimes; Neku Sakuraba; Koki Kariya; Hazama; CuChulainn; Yu Narukami; Mewtwo; Rival Silver; Suicune; Kanata; Professor Oak; The Brigadier; VIII; The Engineer
Which would be the same in katakana. :awesome:
Ya, I know. :awesome: That was added simply as an in-joke on the matter (like Madeen in IX was meant to be written Maduin, a la VI).
It's massive and impossible crack, but fun crack. You need to get Hyne from FF3 involved there too.
Well, I was trying to fit him in, but with magic ‘dying’ in VI, having III take place after that seemed a stretch too far. But I think it would, as, my crack genealogy aside, I’ve seen a plausible theory on TVTropes that drew strong correlations between the geography of III and VIII. So, if I can figure out a way that feels right, he will be mentioned in any future configurations of the theory. :)

:lol: But I'm glad you all enjoyed the crackness.
 

Ryushikaze

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Tim, Ryu
I've seen that theory, but I really don't see the correlations in geography. Even with the Lunar cry ideas, they're too different for only a few hundred years worth of time passing.
 

Gym Leader Devil

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So many names
I've seen that theory, but I really don't see the correlations in geography. Even with the Lunar cry ideas, they're too different for only a few hundred years worth of time passing.

If evidence of any kind bore it out, would it really belong in a crack theory thread? No? I rest my case. :awesome:
 

Loxetta

Pro Adventurer
I don't think that a few hundred years would be enough time for Nanaki's species to go through all those evolutionary phases, either :monster: Bigger time frame, maybe?
 

Vossler

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I don't think that a few hundred years would be enough time for Nanaki's species to go through all those evolutionary phases, either :monster: Bigger time frame, maybe?

Nanaki is ever living.
Your signature however, is giving me inside to the true motives of Cloud.:awesome: Hey you never know.:ego:
 

Mantichorus

"I've seen enough."
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Kris; Mantichorus; Sam Vimes; Neku Sakuraba; Koki Kariya; Hazama; CuChulainn; Yu Narukami; Mewtwo; Rival Silver; Suicune; Kanata; Professor Oak; The Brigadier; VIII; The Engineer
I've seen that theory, but I really don't see the correlations in geography. Even with the Lunar cry ideas, they're too different for only a few hundred years worth of time passing.
I wave away any times in such arguments. Technically speaking, because to us a century is a long time, people tend to think too small. The time between III and VIII I would peg as at least between the present and the First Dynasty of Ancient Egypt. Possibly longer.

But really, we need to make a crack theory thread for ALL Final Fantasy games. :monster:
I don't think that a few hundred years would be enough time for Nanaki's species to go through all those evolutionary phases, either :monster: Bigger time frame, maybe?
Note I never specified a time frame. :P It definitely wouldn't be a few hundred years, though, as Nanaki states in game that he expects to live for five hundred years (which we know from the ending of VII and beginning of AC, he does). Also, please note that Nanaki's species is the final form of the evolution - although they have devolved physically, their mental ability is better than most humans.

Of course, my other "take that, Nomura!" theory (after he said that X and X-2 were effectively prequels to VII) is that X and X-2 take place in an alternative universe where Vincent/Chaos failed to stop Omega, and it left the Planet, only to migrate to what would become Spira. The sentience of the Planet then began to follow familar patterns (hence why so many characters in the X/X-2 universe seem to be expys/expies of VII characters :P).
 

The Twilight Mexican

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Of course, my other "take that, Nomura!" theory (after he said that X and X-2 were effectively prequels to VII) ...

It was actually Nojima's idea. Said he decided to connect them while writing FFX.

Kitase liked the idea and it went from there.

If memory serves me correctly.

EDIT: I checked. It does.
 
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The Twilight Mexican

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One doesn't get that impression. In an interview with Kitase and Nojima prior to X-2's release, they said that the connection would become more concrete in X-2 because of someone's behavior with relation to the Farplane (Shinra, of course), and that Nojima and Toriyama would be doing some other work to make it more solid (X-2: International + Last Mission, no doubt). Dirge of Cerberus added a little more.

Nojima seemed quite excited by the idea, actually.
 
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Loxetta

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Not really baseless, but kinda related to the last few posts: Jenova Omega theory. :monster: Needz updated, though.

Jenova's an Omega Weapon from another planet that crashed into FF7's planet by accident. Her Lifestream refused to meld with the Planet's which caused the rift between them, and her consciousness became the Black Materia. Sephiroth.... most likely really, really, really badly fucked up his interpretation of her intentions.
 

Mantichorus

"I've seen enough."
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Kris; Mantichorus; Sam Vimes; Neku Sakuraba; Koki Kariya; Hazama; CuChulainn; Yu Narukami; Mewtwo; Rival Silver; Suicune; Kanata; Professor Oak; The Brigadier; VIII; The Engineer
@Tres: Oops, my bad. ^^' Thanks for correcting me, though... still, take that S-E staff members! *does Yuffie's punch-the-air-thing and runs*

@Loxetta: hey, that kinda makes sense... although, I have my own Jenova theory. Namely, Jenova was a biological weapon developed for the extermination of the Cetra. Developed by whom? Well, that leads to further baseless crack theories in itself. :monster:
 

Ghost X

Moderator
I think that Windows 7 slogan is really lame, unless I'm missing something clever and witty. I mean, why would a human say "I'm a personal computer, and windows 7 is my idea."
 

Tennyo

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The, "I'm a PC," slogan is in retaliation of the Mac ads with Justin Long. He's all, "I'm a Mac," and then a guy in a suit with glasses says, "And I'm a PC." Microsoft uses it in a different context but it's obvious where they got it from.

So people who say, "I'm a PC," are just saying that they are Windows users and damn proud.

Doesn't make it any better, but what can you do?

 
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Vossler

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Nightmare,race driver,steel tormenter
The, "I'm a PC," slogan is in retaliation of the Mac ads with Justin Long. He's all, "I'm a Mac," and then a guy in a suit with glasses says, "And I'm a PC." Microsoft uses it in a different context but it's obvious where they got it from.

So people who say, "I'm a PC," are just saying that they are Windows users and damn proud.

Doesn't make it any better, but what can you do?

So would MAC and PC represent Sephiroth and Kadaj?
 
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